Martin not playing Tackle just proves the coaches don’t get it

[bsbellomy]

I’ll defer to the coaches on this one. My order would be:
Plan A - Steele
Plan B - Nsehke
Plan C - Farniok/Knight
Plan D - Martin to OT.

I also might rotate Steele and Nsehke to keep the big guys fresh.

There is no excuse for going Martin and Steele over McGovern and Martin.

 

[G2]

Martin played very well at RT. Only idiots did not realize that. I do not think much of any of our backup tackles and what we saw in the game backs that up.

Martin is a pro's pro. Just like last year if told he had to play RT until Collins comes back he would do it and do it well.

When you don't have an argument - start name calling.
Got it.

 

[G2]

I watched Dallas go up and down the field against a good defense. That game?

Are you talking about the nonexistent rushing or the sack and multiple hits Prescott took? I expect more out of the O line. That was great QB and receiving more than anything. The par at best O line only made Prescott look all the more impressive.

 

[Whyjerry]

Are you talking about the nonexistent rushing or the sack and multiple hits Prescott took? I expect more out of the O line. That was great QB and receiving more than anything. The par at best O line only made Prescott look all the more impressive.

Zeke had 11 carries. Clearly running the ball was not the plan and that was from the first Q on. Besides you running into Vea and Suh? Come on be better.

 

[G2]

Zeke had 11 carries. Clearly running the ball was not the plan and that was from the first Q on. Besides you running into Vea and Suh? Come on be better.

That's not a supporting argument, Prescott checked out of 12 running plays. Run blocking and pass protection was not very good. Specifically in the middle. Who the two you mentioned live. You say "be better" but you're not informed on the plan like you think you are.

 

[Whyjerry]

That's not a supporting argument, Prescott checked out of 12 running plays. Run blocking and pass protection was not very good. Specifically in the middle. Who the two you mentioned live. You say "be better" but you're not informed on the plan like you think you are.

Thanks buddy. Let me know when they call you for Canton. In the mean time be better.

 

[gimmesix]

I say we brought Nsekhe in here to be our backup tackle, so let him show if he can handle it if that's how the coaches choose to handle it. It doesn't show that the coaches are bad coaches if they put the player they brought in for the job out there and try not to move their All-Pro guard unless they have to. Guarantee that most coaches would do the same.

Would I? No, I'd probably go with Martin at tackle and McGovern at guard. But I will asterisk that by saying I'm also not on the practice field or in the locker room with these players every day. If I was, I might feel more like the coaches do if they start Nsekhe. There's a lot that goes into decision-making.

 

[quickccc]

At some point you have to ask: Why put a player in a position that they're not as good?

Which player are u referring too ..??

 

[G2]

Which player are u referring too ..??

Really?

 

[quickccc]

I don’t buy the injury at tackle thing.

Guards have to beat and bang a lot more inside against monsters all game. Tackles play in space and it’s a lot more finesse.

My guess is he probably feels he doesn’t get paid enough to play tackle and doesn’t want to be the teams swing tackle unless he is compensated for it.

I mean it would be a total financial screw job if he played Tackle for guard money but I’m a fan and don’t care about his finances and want what’s best for the team.

I could be off base on that and it have nothing to do with money but the injury thing makes no sense.

i dunno if " finesse' is how i describe the demands of an OT.
Its lot more challenging and demanding with OTs because they are very often and most times, alone on an island, they have a lot more space they have to
cover.and defend ..vs being in a " phone booth" area (as the scout's terms for it)

Because they (OTs) have to secure the edge they have to have enuff footwork speed and agility to handle speed, and they have to be strong enuff to anchor and hold vs
power. Of course with any OL guy,, the technique has to be there.

i dont think money has anything to do with Martin a possibility (or not ) at OT.
If those that wanna blast him or the club for being preserved or "chicken' towards injury risk, then welcome to the flame blastin' .....

 

[quickccc]

Really?

LOL ... i guess not a really,.. if you can't say so, ....

 

[G2]

LOL ... i guess not a really,.. if you can't say so, ....

You're aware of the thread title, I think?? So what's your point, land the plane.

 

[DanDavis]

There is no logical explanation to not play Martin at Tackle over this 5 game stretch.

Martin has the ability to play Tackle at a high level and you are purposely making yourself worse for whatever reason.

If Dallas can’t figure this out then we got coaching problems still. Martin shouldn’t have a say in this either. He’s paid to do a job and it’s not a permanent switch. It’s a short term solution that fixes a big problem.

This is a clear obvious move and if anything happens because of our right tackle it’s 100% on the decision makers who saw the obvious thing to do and ignored it.

Philbin messed up personnel last year, messed them up again this year, and the team has been similarly messing up for years now.

McGovern played a year as C in college. Doesn't crosstrain at C.
Instead, the LT from college crosstrains at C but not at T while starting at LG.
And another LT from college who got pressed into service at RT last year and played great wasn't crosstrained for RT again this year.

Instead of our quality Gs getting crosstrained where it makes sense, we only crosstrain them where it doesn't make sense.

Garrett is gone, but the Stupid has been replenished by new coaches.

 

[Cowpolk]

Philbin messed up personnel last year, messed them up again this year, and the team has been similarly messing up for years now.

McGovern played a year as C in college. Doesn't crosstrain at C.
Instead, the LT from college crosstrains at C but not at T while starting at LG.
And another LT from college who got pressed into service at RT last year and played great wasn't crosstrained for RT again this year.

Instead of our quality Gs getting crosstrained where it makes sense, we only crosstrain them where it doesn't make sense.

Garrett is gone, but the Stupid has been replenished by new coaches.

What team is your favorite team?

 

[plasticman]

I believe this is where they could have used Ball. In my opinion, the Cowboys are without their RT and his backup.

 

[BrassCowboy]

Yes. We were weaker vs. Tampa without Martin at RG.

You said weaker, but that is not the same as weak. Actually quite strong against a dline that is among if not the best in the league with TB.
That being said, you compare Martin at RT and Mcgovern at RG with Martin at RG and Steele at RT and you will find the latter is a whole lot weaker and Dak will be running to his left quite often.

We are taking about finding the best lineup under the circumstances (Collins being out), and based on one game in Tampa Bay, I believe that is leave Mcgovern at RG and have Martin at RT where he did a great job last year

 

[Bullflop]

Reportedly, Martin informed the staff that he's not comfortable playing right tackle and they catered to his wishes. Go figure.

Yes, I know, he's played there before and did so with great success. Evidently, he carries a whole lot of weight with the staff.
I suspect it's pretty likely that Mike McCarthy and probably the FO, also, didn't want to remove him from his comfort zone?!

 

[Hawkeye0202]

They pay him millions of Dollars to do a job.

He can suck it up for 5 games to help the team.

Tell that to the NFLPA....
BTW what happens if he has a season-ending injury?

Just me but I think you leave your BEST player playing his best position.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Obviously those guys aren't better than Martin at RT, but that's not really the issue because neither is McGovern better than Martin at RG.

The issue is whether Martin at RG & Steele/Nsekhe at RT is a better right side combo than McGovern at RG & Martin at RT.

I personally like the idea of moving Martin to RT, but I'm not sure if the decision is as cut and dry as some believe.

+1 .......I'm almost certain it's not. Fans are using the eye view but I'm sure a more issues in play than we know.

 

[terra]

When you don't have an argument - start name calling.
Got it.

When you are forced to face morons who think steele is better at RT then Martin, name calling is appropriate.