James Washington Will Light it Up as a Cowboy

[MountaineerCowboy]

if healthy and used right, I see 800(250 rushing,550 receiving) yards from scrimmage in total.50-ish catches and 10 tds. I think he will get like 3 rushing, 7 receiving. Its feasible.

He has 11 TDs for his entire 4 year career. I don't see him basically doubling his career TDs in one year.

He has 2 career rushes for 13 yards total. I don't see a 237 yard gain there either.

I believe you are doing some VERY wishful thinking lol

 

[Rayman70]

He has 11 TDs for his entire 4 year career. I don't see him basically doubling his career TDs in one year.

He has 2 career rushes for 13 yards total. I don't see a 237 yard gain there either.

I believe you are doing some VERY wishful thinking lol

Maybe, maybe not. I think hes vastly underrated. He never got a real chance in pittsburgh and Ben had a dead arm. The wr room was loaded. Ours isnt. We barely can field 5 wideouts. This league is about seizing opportunity and Im factoring this in. Now this is highly contingent on 2 things. He has 2 remain healthy, lastly...Kellen Moore must use him creatively...getting him the ball. The stats I posted arent that nutty. They are a bit middle of the road. But thats all we need from him if we are clicking.

 

[Mr_437]

I don't see Washington lighting it up, but it would be a huge plus for the offense because they need at least 2 new WRs to step up.

 

[gimmesix]

not really

you are thinking too broadly, no one player needs to make up for the loss of another.

Wilson had few big games when needed but still was a 3 or 4 in our offense again all we need Washington to do is make few plays have some productive games.

we also have pollard, zeke, and Schultz. we have an offense, we dont need to run 4-5wr sets the first month. there are ways to use the run game to set up PA passes, use 2 Tes and use a lot of motion to make sure Lambs not doubled so much etc etc

some of you are making this AC loss as some huge deal and its not..no one NEEDS to do TOO MUCH.

jeez..like i said Wash is guy much Like Wilson who can have some solid games when targeted. Like Wilson did with Rish in the MN game..we were pretty shorthanded in that game and WON..

this isn't complicated, its football. Its really on MM , DQ and MOORE to game plan differently until Gallups back full strength

It isn't about doing too much. It's about being able to do enough to make the offense effective. You can't count on players making up for another player not being able to do his job well. As they say, you are only as strong as your weakest link. Schultz can't get open, Pollard can't get open, Lamb can't get open if defenses can easily handle our other receivers.

Wilson benefited from having Lamb and Cooper out there. That's why often when receivers go to other teams, they fail. Think of Alvin Harper without Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek. Play-action is less effective if your receivers can't beat man coverage, therefore play-action is less effective, so are extra blockers for the run game if the defense doesn't feel threatened by the passing game.

You are taking the same approach here in a way that the Cowboys took in 2018 when it cut Bryant. The team brought in a bunch of nothing at receiver and said we can be effective through receiver by committee. Our offense floundered because those receivers could not do their part of make it go. If we don't have a guy outside who can make defenses pay for bringing a safety up to play the run or for doubling Lamb, then our offense will struggle.

 

[blueblood70]

It isn't about doing too much. It's about being able to do enough to make the offense effective. You can't count on players making up for another player not being able to do his job well. As they say, you are only as strong as your weakest link. Schultz can't get open, Pollard can't get open, Lamb can't get open if defenses can easily handle our other receivers.

Wilson benefited from having Lamb and Cooper out there. That's why often when receivers go to other teams, they fail. Think of Alvin Harper without Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek. Play-action is less effective if your receivers can't beat man coverage, therefore play-action is less effective, so are extra blockers for the run game if the defense doesn't feel threatened by the passing game.

You are taking the same approach here in a way that the Cowboys took in 2018 when it cut Bryant. The team brought in a bunch of nothing at receiver and said we can be effective through receiver by committee. Our offense floundered because those receivers could not do their part of make it go. If we don't have a guy outside who can make defenses pay for bringing a safety up to play the run or for doubling Lamb, then our offense will struggle.

Cant ?? did you speak with higher power?? maybe Nostradamus to say cant before game 1 happens game 2 game17 lmao..Schultz got open plenty top 5 TE numbers across the board 10YPC average id say thats plenty open,.,.and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it wasn't cooper taking the coverages every game

this isnt 2018 and Lamb not a RBBC hes a #1 no matter how you slice it..what ac did for dak in 18 is great we have lamb and Gallup when gallup returns and thats nice compliment 1-2.. crazy not sure what Greenbay will do i mean they didn't even try and replace Adams and that 3rd down guy and others. theior WR core is sad compared to ours..we have solid core this isnt 2018..i get Gallup is a WC when he retyurns so what thern firts moneth Moore can utitlize other p[ackerges i said it alrwasdy..overvaluing coop is nonsense. a lot has changed since 18...



ive said this before , show me how many times AC was doubled last season..show me stats, ive seen defenses sometimes use their best corners to cover the best guy the double the other guy.,.we have far more weapons then just say OMG we lost coop, its all over..give me a break..he has never been nor will be that elite guy defenses are scared of..so hes great route runner at time when hes not running half speed or taking plays off or seemingly just not into the game..he can be great at times but never elite..never uncoverable,.if that were true he would have had dhop, thomas, admas, Hills or hey look at Kupps #s..AC cant hold candle to those guy prodcution.

you an keep thinking that but with motion and with better schemes etc they wont miss AC as much as you think..

how about we see say 8 games then begin the debate on who was correct.

 

[eromeopolk]

I think this guy just fits in well with Cee Dee and the rest of the guys, especially Dak. I also think this guy was underrated at Pittsburgh simply because he didn't get enough playing time behind all those receivers.

He's got big play ability and also plays pretty steady. Shifty guy with good hands. Won't have a lot of drops.

Really think he was an underrated pick up, especially when I look at the rest of the guys we drafted.

Washington was a 2nd round pick, afterall.

No Schuster No Brown and still Washington could not take advantage of the opportunity and he had Big Ben at QB.

So I am skeptical about drinking that kool aid.

 

[Pass2Run]

Well, one day it is Simi the next Tolbert the next day Washington.
Good lad, there are just a limited number of WR spots.

We have to make up for the loss of Wilson and Cooper by WR by committee.

 

[JoeKing]

I think this guy just fits in well with Cee Dee and the rest of the guys, especially Dak. I also think this guy was underrated at Pittsburgh simply because he didn't get enough playing time behind all those receivers.

He's got big play ability and also plays pretty steady. Shifty guy with good hands. Won't have a lot of drops.

Really think he was an underrated pick up, especially when I look at the rest of the guys we drafted.

Washington was a 2nd round pick, afterall.

Without having seen with your own eyes the chemistry between these players, I believe your assessment is a bit too optimistic. We'll see soon enough.

 

[Mannix]

Pause at 6:13 and look at the bottom of the list....I am being honest when I say that, I JUST DON'T GET THIS!!!

 

[Pass2Run]

Without having seen with your own eyes the chemistry between these players, I believe your assessment is a bit too optimistic. We'll see soon enough.

It's all about being creative. While Gallup is out, these guys have to step up. And I think we find someone to step up out there while Gallup is out. I feel like it'll be Washington, most likely, early on, but Fehoko could come in down the stretch.

 

[Proof]

How many fans on here actually seen him play other than a few games or plays here and there?

I watch a lot of the AFCN games, and remember him making a lot of plays, whenever Big Ben was healthy enough to get the ball to his WR's, accurately.

Washington will be a very good role player, for what is is expected to do. I can see it already, if he does not make 80 receptions and 1000 yards in limited play, our stupid fans will turn on him.

the one true fan has spoken

 

[gimmesix]

Cant ?? did you speak with higher power?? maybe Nostradamus to say cant before game 1 happens game 2 game17 lmao..Schultz got open plenty top 5 TE numbers across the board 10YPC average id say thats plenty open,.,.and NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO it wasn't cooper taking the coverages every game

this isnt 2018 and Lamb not a RBBC hes a #1 no matter how you slice it..what ac did for dak in 18 is great we have lamb and Gallup when gallup returns and thats nice compliment 1-2.. crazy not sure what Greenbay will do i mean they didn't even try and replace Adams and that 3rd down guy and others. theior WR core is sad compared to ours..we have solid core this isnt 2018..i get Gallup is a WC when he retyurns so what thern firts moneth Moore can utitlize other p[ackerges i said it alrwasdy..overvaluing coop is nonsense. a lot has changed since 18...



ive said this before , show me how many times AC was doubled last season..show me stats, ive seen defenses sometimes use their best corners to cover the best guy the double the other guy.,.we have far more weapons then just say OMG we lost coop, its all over..give me a break..he has never been nor will be that elite guy defenses are scared of..so hes great route runner at time when hes not running half speed or taking plays off or seemingly just not into the game..he can be great at times but never elite..never uncoverable,.if that were true he would have had dhop, thomas, admas, Hills or hey look at Kupps #s..AC cant hold candle to those guy prodcution.

you an keep thinking that but with motion and with better schemes etc they wont miss AC as much as you think..

how about we see say 8 games then begin the debate on who was correct.

Depends on the debate. If it's that neither Washington and Tolbert are playing like a No. 2 and the offense is still rolling, I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong. If it's that either is playing like a No. 2 and the offense is rolling, then that doesn't prove I'm wrong.

Set the parameters. I don't know how Washington or Tolbert is going to do, so as I've said, I'm setting my expectations for them low and hoping to be surprised.

My premise is if they do poorly (neither playing like a No. 2), then the offense will suffer for it. Yours appears to be that even if neither plays like a No. 2, the offense will be equal to last year's Is that correct?

Let me add in, though, if we play Pollard in the slot and he plays like a No. 2 receiver and either Washington or Tolbert plays like a No. 3, then that also should allow the offense to move like last year's. So my amended premise is that if we find No. 2 and No. 3 receivers (i.e. two players who put up similar numbers to Cooper, Gallup and Wilson combined), then the offense will not suffer. That doesn't count the tight ends.

Your premise is that we don't need effective No. 2 and No. 3 receivers, right? Mine is that we do or the offense will suffer for it.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

We have to make up for the loss of Wilson and Cooper by WR by committee.

True. I am just wondering about the daily dose of "Keep Yer Eye on This Bloke" with receivers. How many wunderkinds do we have, 10? How many slots, 5?

 

[Pass2Run]

True. I am just wondering about the daily dose of "Keep Yer Eye on This Bloke" with receivers. How many wunderkinds do we have, 10? How many slots, 5?

Dak spreads the ball around.

The Cowboys like to mix it up with different players...

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Didn't read all five pages, but Washington produced whenever he had a chance. For whatever reason he fell out of favor in Pittsburgh.

I think he's going to more than suffice as Cedrick Wilson's replacement and should even be able to start until Gallup is ready.

 

[JoeKing]

It's all about being creative. While Gallup is out, these guys have to step up. And I think we find someone to step up out there while Gallup is out. I feel like it'll be Washington, most likely, early on, but Fehoko could come in down the stretch.

It's all only speculation. So let me speculate too... Vasher is a better WR than Fehoko.

 

[blueblood70]

Depends on the debate. If it's that neither Washington and Tolbert are playing like a No. 2 and the offense is still rolling, I'll gladly admit that I'm wrong. If it's that either is playing like a No. 2 and the offense is rolling, then that doesn't prove I'm wrong.

Set the parameters. I don't know how Washington or Tolbert is going to do, so as I've said, I'm setting my expectations for them low and hoping to be surprised.

My premise is if they do poorly (neither playing like a No. 2), then the offense will suffer for it. Yours appears to be that even if neither plays like a No. 2, the offense will be equal to last year's Is that correct?

Let me add in, though, if we play Pollard in the slot and he plays like a No. 2 receiver and either Washington or Tolbert plays like a No. 3, then that also should allow the offense to move like last year's. So my amended premise is that if we find No. 2 and No. 3 receivers (i.e. two players who put up similar numbers to Cooper, Gallup and Wilson combined), then the offense will not suffer. That doesn't count the tight ends.

Your premise is that we don't need effective No. 2 and No. 3 receivers, right? Mine is that we do or the offense will suffer for it.

If and and butts brah you are trying to reach 4 months into the futre and make opinions feel like facts.. the what if train hasnt left the building. Lets see them play ok.. we can have this debate in November,

should know a lot by then..

im no even going to judge the first month of the year WHY, because 2018 we did find way to turn a 3-5 start into a 2nd round of the payoffs.. so you platy the year debate after. Not have these ridiculous what if threads about how things might fail before they begin.

this doesnt matter we will get Gallup back by week 5 more than likely and that like getting AC at the trade deadline in 18 but having Lamb as #1 make its different start having pollard and zeke with Schutz etc and all we need to do is have our OC and HC devise plan to play with one #1 WR ie run game strong, play action passes, move the Wrs in motions a lot, make it hard to double anyone, utilize Zeke and pollard in the pass game etc etc etc

so many scenarios to start the first few games and then see how Washinton , Tolbert and others might step up and just help out in few games..

 

[DanTanna]

Get ready for 1, maybe 2 targets per game James. Now if you run a 3 yard out on 3rd and 10 you'll get tons of looks.

 

[Techsass]

Stealer fans are glad he is gone.

Just something to keep in mind.

Really? Didn't know that. I just saw a lot of Stealer fan comments from his highlights that all seemed to like him.

 

[JoeKing]

Pause at 6:13 and look at the bottom of the list....I am being honest when I say that, I JUST DON'T GET THIS!!!

What do you not get? Tolbert and Brown don't deserve to be any higher on the list at this point.