Different kind of Dak thread

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Completion percentage has nothing to do with it. It's okay carry on.

huh?

 

[KJJ]

but you can go and draft the next mahomes. KC did it while they had Smith.

Many on this board seem to think it’s that simple.

 

[big dog cowboy]

But what I have a harder time understanding are the die hard Dak proponents that want Dak re-signed for essentially whatever he wants.

Who the heck are these people?

 

[zrinkill]

No that’s not what was said….the original post I replied to said:




It doesn’t say one person it says “people”…as in more than one….Rockport doesn’t speak for me or a “side”. You guys create this narrative to keep this division going. Same crap over and over again.

Jeebus ......... you are one of those people who will twist in the wind to not admit you were wrong.

pathetic

 

[Chasing6]

Who the heck are these people?

Nobody. Only in his imagination.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Jeebus ......... you are one of those people who will twist in the wind to not admit you were wrong.

pathetic

I have no issue admitting to people I don’t know when I’m wrong. I’ve never seen you do the same though.

You need to chill. You jumped into a conversation and thought you had a “Aha!” Moment. Had you followed the discussion you wouldn’t have made a fool of yourself.

Pathetic.

 

[thunderpimp91]

one man's post does not make a generalization of all. the same could be said for some anti-Dak group. could we take a single take and say they all think that way?
even in that post, a lot of people opposed the opinion, including myself.

I don't disagree, but to be honest I think the true pro and anti Dak crowds are the minority of fans. I think most fall somewhere in the middle and can discuss the subject rationally instead of just emotionally which at least to me is what I think makes someone in the pro/anti crowds to begin with.

The post I was replying to suggested that no one had ever talked about the team collapsing without Dak. Obviously that post I shared only reflects the opinion of one person, but also shows that it isn't some complete myth made up by the other side with absolutely no backing.

 

[Vtwin]

Jeebus ......... you are one of those people who will twist in the wind to not admit you were wrong.

pathetic

I'm sure TMC will admit he was wrong, if and when that ever happens.

Sarcasm

 

[CWR]

wait what? there was Dak threads and arguments? when? where? why didn't anybody tell me? where can I find these arguments? come on now.... what's going on around here? who is in charge? I demand answers

Bro you totally missed out. We all made such convincing cases on both sides of the aisle. Many hearts and minds were changed with the data and everyone came to their own well respected conclusions. The site is a better place for those highly productive conversations.

 

[MapleLeaf]

Serious question for both sides of the Dak argument.

If Dak signed for $25 million per year would you take the contract for the next three years?

 

[shabazz]

Who the heck are these people?

The fan bases of the other 31 teams.....

 

[shabazz]

Serious question for both sides of the Dak argument.

If Dak signed for $25 million per year would you take the contract for the next three years?

Yes......but only if Jerry would sign enough stars to compensate.

Basically the entire offense of the Niners minus Mr. Purdy

Oh, and " Let's go Islanders!"

 

[DallasEast]

The draft is 8 days away.

Thank goodness.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I am pro Dak, and I think Dak can win the SB… I just don’t think there’s any chance that will happen in Dallas. This is because of a combination or roster building philosophy, cap mismanagement, organizational culture, Dak-friendly coaching atmosphere (bring in Josh McDaniels, force him to look at the position in unique ways), and outside pressure (he’s the John Cena of the NFL. He tries to be liked, but he’s at the top of the company as QB of the Dallas Cowboys; if people don’t get what they want then everything he does will be a mistake).

I also believe Dak would be better on a run-heavy, timing route focused, defensive organization. This is not a knock on Dak, these are things that would help him when the playoffs come around. This is how Russell Wilson won, this is how Cam almost won, this is how SF is getting to NFCCGs. In your playoff game, GB played better defense. GB ran the ball better. Dak shouldn’t have needed to throw that much, those turnovers didn’t need to happen.

I think a lot of people are being hoodwinked by passing stats. He threw more picks in 2022 so he’s worse. He put up bigger stats in 2023 so he’s better. Hes the same guy. Dak isn’t gonna change a lot year to year when he’s already been in the league for 8 years. The scheme changed, but beyond that they just asked him to throw more times. Dallas led the league in Passing attempts per game in 2023. Did this shift improve the team overall from 2021 and 2022? No.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

talk to @PAPPYDOG who posts nothing about football (ever) and only TMZ related topics.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I have been thinking about the Dak divide of this fan base. I have referred to it in other threads. But one thing I notice that really hasn’t been discussed with any sort of depth is the analysis of the schools of thought regarding the various positions.

For instance you have the pro-Dak, anti Dak’s and those in between. Obviously there is evidence to support the anti-Dak crowd’s position. And it rationally follows that there is a reasonable basis for those that are somewhere in between.

But what I have a harder time understanding are the die hard Dak proponents that want Dak re-signed for essentially whatever he wants. There is obviously no merit to a point of view that refuses to acknowledge that at times Dak has played pretty poorly, especially big/important/playoff games. I don’t see how anyone could allege the contrary with a straight face.

They act like the entire Cowboys organization would cease to exist if Dak isn’t signed at whatever cost it takes. How does a person come to such a conclusion? Blind fandom? Fourteen years old with a complete lack of objectivity? A lack of understanding of the salary cap? Inability to reason?

I’m not trying to insult posters with that viewpoint. What makes the pro-Dak crowd ignore what most people consider relevant facts to come to their conclusions. It seems like these posters are the most entrenched in vitriol towards other posters as well?

What makes people be so hateful over discussions on a message board? It is as if someone else’s opinion amounts to an attack on the player directly, or a direct affront to the pro-Dak crowd.

I’m not saying that people are not entitled to their opinions one way or the other. That’s what makes this place great. I just marvel at the lack of civility here at times over simple discussion.

To be clear, I am not saying the anti-Dak crowd is right and the pro-Dak crowd is wrong (and I really don’t have a dog in this fight) but it’s hard for me to fathom that the pro-Dak crowd can’t at least understand why the pro-Dak crowd can’t at least see why the anti-Dak crowd has soured on Dak.

I think most of the anti-Dak crowd understands and acknowledges that Dak has some positive traits and has done some good things but have, for various reasons, come to the conclusion that Dak isn’t the guy from their point of view.

It would be nice if this topic can be discussed here calmly and rationally without this thread devolving into chaos and vitriol. Thanks in advance.

What is this???
Pro Dak .............Anti Dak ...........huh????
Man, I want another SB win and Dakko can't do it!
Next, please!!!!!!!!!!
Enough of this OMG..........The Cowboys were here before Prescotto and will still be here when he leaves us!!!

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I haven't seen anyone who thinks we should sign him for "Whatever" he wants. There are thos who blame him for everything then those who blame him for very little and then the rest of us who blame Jerry and are fine with him stying or going because Jerry is not changing..have not seen the ones saying "Sign him for whatever he wants".

They dont have to say it....dak already proved getting whatever he wanted.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

talk to @PAPPYDOG who posts nothing about football (ever) and only TMZ related topics.

Everyone loves a good callout comment.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Said no one.

Thats right. We just ditched him without regard to any risk.
It can be done again.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I think we are saying the same thing. The assumption that people that support Dak over the Cowboys is ridiculous.

Those same people hate Dak so much they would rather us go 0-17 without him.

Its also ridiculouz that anyone critical of dak is just a hater....or worse...."not about football"....a vile accusation.