Have we become so used to Jerry that anytime he does bare minimum we praise him?

[DallasEast]

Yes, but when someone asked for an honest answer,
And then in return, you, ask them for an honest answer,
They don’t like when you ask them
That’s how I perceived it

Please do not think I have singled you out. I have asked my questions, in varying ways, dozens of times, since the site was born.

Now, this is just my opinion and both you and/or @phildadon86 can correct me if I am off-base. You have replied with:

Well, if you don’t think so, well, then I have to ask a serious question​

Why do you remain a cowboy fan if you’re so disgruntle​

I think there may be some degree of disgruntlement. but I think it has all to do with having fellow members' questioning why anyone feels it is necessary to acknowledge a few, present-day good general manager actions, when there is a lengthy and aged laundry list of general manager actions that outweigh them.

Is there any actual harm in allowing an opinion to be proven wrong by what happens each season in reality? And if there is actual harm being inflicted, to whom are the affected victims of said harm? There must be some measurable form of cause and detrimental effect.

 

[Whirlwin]

Please do not think I have singled you out. I have asked my questions, in varying ways, dozens of times, since the site was born.

Now, this is just my opinion and both you and/or @phildadon86 can correct me if I am off-base. You have replied with:

Well, if you don’t think so, well, then I have to ask a serious question​

Why do you remain a cowboy fan if you’re so disgruntle​

I think there may be some degree of disgruntlement. but I think it has all to do with having fellow members' questioning why anyone feels it is necessary to acknowledge a few, present-day good general manager actions, when there is a lengthy and aged laundry list of general manager actions that outweigh them.

Is there any actual harm in allowing an opinion to be proven wrong by what happens each season in reality? And if there is actual harm being inflicted, to whom are the affected victims of said harm? There must be some measurable form of cause and detrimental effect.

Yes, and I admitted that I was wrong, and I deserve the ridicule
I never meant to use the word fan, but I did
And supporting and, fan in my opinion are two different meanings, although some don’t think so
But I’m moving on thank you

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

No, if I’m so disappointed in something and I’m so disenchanted, I move on

Then you're not a true fan. Why do Jet fans and Brown fans stay? And they have worse organizations than the Cowboys. It's in there blood. I've been a Cowboy fan since I was 10 years old and I'll be damned if Jerry will drive me away. Every year other Cowboy fans tell me don't get on the bandwagon when we win. None of them have ever said I Told you so at the end of the season. I wish they would just once but it's always crickets.

 

[fivetwos]

That's true. It doesn't SEEM quite as haphazard, drunken...or splashy. We can only hope it translates to actual games and playoffs.

There’s only so many times you can call a person a pure buffoon. Meanwhile he is genuinely happy you’re talking about him, even in insult. I steer away from even admitting I’m a fan of this team….not because of not winning….but because everyone’s first thought goes to Jerry’s mug and mouth. Embarrassing.

The team will be better. I’m just not sure it’ll translate to playoff success. They have a very serious bad habit of not showing up for home playoff games. I’m hoping its not something that’s penetrated every crevice of the organization and can’t be overcome.

Jerry has to let his coach do the talking and motivate the team. He just can’t do that. Has to be front and center. There’s no way he will ever be convinced that HE is the problem. The players hear his words and the sunshine pumping. Jimmy used to tell his great team how bad they were. That somehow worked.

 

[Whirlwin]

Then you're not a true fan. Why do Jet fans and Brown fans stay? And they have worse organizations than the Cowboys. It's in there blood. I've been a Cowboy fan since I was 10 years old and I'll be damned if Jerry will drive me away. Every year other Cowboy fans tell me don't get on the bandwagon when we win. None of them have ever said I Told you so at the end of the season. I wish they would just once but it's always crickets.

I don’t know who started that true fan, fake fan stuff, but I accidentally mentioned it, and I got slammed, and I deserve it, I pride myself and not belittling or judging people
But I made a mistake because the phrase is so widely used by many here,
Apologies

 

[phildadon86]

Offensive Coordinator: Klayton Adams managed the overall offense and game planning, while Schottenheimer handled the plays on game days

Somebody wasn’t paying attention,

Oh you mean when he couldnt get in the redzone the seocnd half of the year? Or the many MANY conservative calls that cost the team points? LOL Someone definitely wasnt watching and it wasnt me

 

[Vtwin]

Because…..I can?

You can, but should you given your history of whining about it?

 

[phildadon86]

While I'm certain we have been conditioned over time, we did quite a bit more than the bare minimum this offseason.

To see the bare minimum take a good look at 2 off seasons ago. Those few months set us back a couple years.

No thats doing nothing. Not the bare minimum. The bare minimum as a gm is using FA, and signing your own players.

 

[Whirlwin]

Oh you mean when he couldnt get in the redzone the seocnd half of the year? Or the many MANY conservative calls that cost the team points? LOL Someone definitely wasnt watching and it wasnt me

I want you to know I meant no disrespect
I used the wrong word and the wrong phrase
I was honestly curious, I’ve asked many people throughout the years why they remain loyal to an organization, and sometimes I don’t even know why I do, I guess I believe in the star, I guess I believe in Mr. cowboy
And I was hoping you could tell me the same thing maybe, again no disrespect was intended

 

[phildadon86]

What’s the bare minimum? This year hasn’t been the bare minimum. I’m a guy who’s blamed Jerry for the last 30 years but this year doesn’t represent the bare minimum. Winning guys like Von Miller is the bare minimum.

Hiring Parker goes completely against what they typically hire. The Eberflus and Zimmers. Watching Downs fall in the draft…to trade up for him then trade down from 21 to get compensation back…..this isn’t bare minimum.

Yes it is. Thats what ANY competent GM does. That what you guys dont get lol.

Jerry did what any GM does. Yall acting like its some crazy new thing is what I am talking about.

 

[Whirlwin]

Oh you mean when he couldnt get in the redzone the seocnd half of the year? Or the many MANY conservative calls that cost the team points? LOL Someone definitely wasnt watching and it wasnt me

Well, I think he screwed up on a few play calls, like not running it on the 1 inch line, but overall for a first year I think he did pretty well

 

[zrinkill]

No ......... Jerry lapdogs remain the way all year long.

 

[DallasEast]

Yes, and I admitted that I was wrong, and I deserve the ridicule
I never meant to use the word fan, but I did
And supporting and, fan in my opinion are two different meanings, although some don’t think so
But I’m moving on thank you

Just my opinion, but I feel supporting and fan are not mutually exclusive. I think anyone can support a team. The amount of support will differ from person to person, but it is support willingly given nonetheless.

These fandom conversations have always been interesting for me. My hard head does not necessarily question how strongly someone fans for their favorite team. My viewpoint is simple. A person is a fan if they claim one entity within that particular sport's league.

I have one favorite NFL team. One favorite college football team. One favorite college basketball team. One favorite high school team of any sport. Etc., etc. The usual arguments here over who is a fan do not get me. What grinds my gears is anyone claiming, for example, "I'M A COWBOYS AND PACKERS FAN!"

My reaction is always the same for that person's perspective: How can someone be a half-and-half fan? How does that work? What goes through a person's mind whenever Dallas and Green Bay play each other? Is their brain sitting in a roller coaster car whenever the ball is snapped? "Throw the ball! Sack him! Catch the ball! Bat it down! Tackle that guy! Spin out of that tackle! He was fouled! Pick up the flag ref!"

I don't know. That seems exhausting.

 

[Whirlwin]

Just my opinion, but I feel supporting and fan are not mutually exclusive. I think anyone can support a team. The amount of support will differ from person to person, but it is support willingly given nonetheless.

These fandom conversations have always been interesting for me. My hard head does not necessarily question how strongly someone fans for their favorite team. My viewpoint is simple. A person is a fan if they claim one entity within that particular sport's league.

I have one favorite NFL team. One favorite college football team. One favorite college basketball team. One favorite high school team of any sport. Etc., etc. The usual arguments here over who is a fan do not get me. What grinds my gears is anyone claiming, for example, "I'M A COWBOYS AND PACKERS FAN!"

My reaction is always the same for that person's perspective: How can someone be a half-and-half fan? How does that work? What goes through a person's mind whenever Dallas and Green Bay play each other? Is their brain sitting in a roller coaster car whenever the ball is snapped? "Throw the ball! Sack him! Catch the ball! Bat it down! Tackle that guy! Spin out of that tackle! He was fouled! Pick up the flag ref!"

I don't know. That seems exhausting.

I’ve asked many of people throughout the years on the old fan forum, and the new one
Because sometimes I again don’t know why I stay loyal to this franchise myself
And then I remember, I love what the star represents
I love the meaning of Mr. cowboy
That’s why in my post I say we have all the Cowboys gone, in my avatar
And I was just hoping someone else could enlighten me on why they felt they supported the franchise through thick and thin
I’m old. I don’t explain myself correctly all the time.
I do my best and I mean no disrespect to anyone
, Changes inevitable, I’m still learning

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

I don’t know who started that true fan, fake fan stuff, but I accidentally mentioned it, and I got slammed, and I deserve it, I pride myself and not belittling or judging people
But I made a mistake because the phrase is so widely used by many here,
Apologies

I honestly don't feel I slammed you ...at all. But...hurt feelings on the internet...what can one do?

 

[Whirlwin]

Just my opinion, but I feel supporting and fan are not mutually exclusive. I think anyone can support a team. The amount of support will differ from person to person, but it is support willingly given nonetheless.

These fandom conversations have always been interesting for me. My hard head does not necessarily question how strongly someone fans for their favorite team. My viewpoint is simple. A person is a fan if they claim one entity within that particular sport's league.

I have one favorite NFL team. One favorite college football team. One favorite college basketball team. One favorite high school team of any sport. Etc., etc. The usual arguments here over who is a fan do not get me. What grinds my gears is anyone claiming, for example, "I'M A COWBOYS AND PACKERS FAN!"

My reaction is always the same for that person's perspective: How can someone be a half-and-half fan? How does that work? What goes through a person's mind whenever Dallas and Green Bay play each other? Is their brain sitting in a roller coaster car whenever the ball is snapped? "Throw the ball! Sack him! Catch the ball! Bat it down! Tackle that guy! Spin out of that tackle! He was fouled! Pick up the flag ref!"

I don't know. That seems exhausting.

It makes you stop and think sometimes, and then you realize I know why, lol

 

[Whirlwin]

I honestly don't feel I slammed you ...at all. But...hurt feelings on the internet...what can one do?

No, you didn’t. I wasn’t referring to you.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You can, but should you given your history of whining about it?

Sure. I will and I can. You have a history of crying about being sent to a rabbit hole and here you are….

 

[Whirlwin]

I honestly don't feel I slammed you ...at all. But...hurt feelings on the internet...what can one do?

I don’t have hurt feelings, I’m a man, you’re wrong you’re wrong, you’re right you’re right, and you live with it, it won’t be my last mistake,

 

[phildadon86]

Come on, brother, there comes a time when we as fans need to give credit where credit is due. Jerry hasn't just done the bare minimum. He has done way more this past offseason and year than he has done in arguably 30+ years. The last time he made such a trade (Micah) of our best player in order to garnish other players and early round draft picks was the Herschel Walker trade that helped set up the SB winning Cowboys of the early to mid 90s. Love him or hate him, if this team does so well that it at least reaches a conference championship game in the playoffs, we all need to give Jerry full credit.

That is considered the bare minimum for 31 other teams. Thats the point I am making.