Ex NFL Coach & GM - Cowboys Easy Choice Is Adrian Peterson

[Idgit]

In 2013 made $11,250,000, 2014 $11,750,000. As I said, they have an up and coming youing qb. Thye need that run support. A good young qb, best rb in the league, better offense.

In both those seasons he was their heroic superstar RB who happened to have a high salary. Now he's a disgruntled PR liability. And two years older.

They may keep him. Or he may agree to a pay cut. But it's not a stretch to see them agree to part ways with so much money, age, and negative attention on the table, either.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Yes because you want their RB. LOL He is not coming to Dallas, he is not looking to give some sweet heart deal and play for chump change.

The only team in the NFL who MIGHT pay AD 12 million is the Vikings. And that's because of what his current contract demands.

On the open market he doesn't get that. If he had a quiet and productive year..... He's back at that number. He didn't. And so there is some doubt.

The hypothetical we are debating is if AD becomes available should we go get him.

The obvious answer SHOULD be yes.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

They would actually be sticking it to themselves carrying his $15 million cost on their cap.

They have about $16 million in cap space now, if there isn't any plan to use more than $16 million (really $20 million, since Greg Jennings will likely be released), then there really isn't any harm

 

[Stash]

Yes because you want their RB. LOL He is not coming to Dallas, he is not looking to give some sweet heart deal and play for chump change.

We'll see. You don't know the future any more than I do.

 

[HappyOnions]

Again. No.


First I didn't day it was all the OL. If I did please quote where I said it.

You pretty much said it here:

Also if you're being honest Murray isn't special and his season was more (mostly?) due to the line.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

And that's the key component for me. I think his talk about wanting to return there is all about his current contract.

If the Vikings are willing to pay him $15 million for the next several years, he's willing to play for Minnesota. If they're not, he's not.

And again, in my opinion, the Vikings are a young, rebuilding team. I think they can make much better use of $15 million than by keeping Peterson there. They're not winning anything any time soon and I think it would be a mistake to keep going down that road.

I doubt the Vikings use between $20-$35 million dollars in cap space this offseason. Even if that is the plan, they need a willing partner, whom they view as worth it, to sign with them. If they load up on high priced free agents, hoping to go to the next level, it would be in their best interest to keep Peterson.

 

[Stash]

In both those seasons he was their heroic superstar RB who happened to have a high salary. Now he's a disgruntled PR liability. And two years older.

They may keep him. Or he may agree to a pay cut. But it's not a stretch to see them agree to part ways with so much money, age, and negative attention on the table, either.

I'm very glad that some people can at least acknowledge the possibility. Others are so dead-set against it that they'll try to convince themselves of anything otherwise.

 

[Stash]

I doubt the Vikings use between $20-$35 million dollars in cap space this offseason. Even if that is the plan, they need a willing partner, whom they view as worth it, to sign with them. If they load up on high priced free agents, hoping to go to the next level, it would be in their best interest to keep Peterson.

What is the end game? Do you think the Vikings can win a championship even with Peterson? Because I sure don't.

And if that's the case, I don't see how or why they would pay $15 million to Peterson.

 

[Idgit]

I'm very glad that some people can at least acknowledge the possibility. Others are so dead-set against it that they'll try to convince themselves of anything otherwise.

I love the player, but I could easily see him not released or too expensive for what I want to see us pay for him. But this one does seem to me to be the sort of thing that just happens in the NFL sometimes.

Especially knowing his love for Dallas. And we'd really have Triplets again, too.

 

[jterrell]

Minny will absolutely not pay AP what the contract says.

All that said, AP would likely make more money and the Vikes would have a great RB for a lesser cap hit if they kissed and made up with AP restructuring his deal down to a reasonable but still rich level.

The thing is, AP seems to be in the mindset of not tinkling on a fire to put out a fire in Minny.
And if the sides really are at a loggerheads then AP becoming a FA seems extremely likely.

BUT, the Vikes have no reason to do anyone else in any favors or AP himself. They can keep and maintain his rights until June 1st.

Directionally, they are young and trying to build. It wouldn't shock me to see them draft a RB and the kid coming out of Minnesota seems a good local fit.

Timeline-wise again I don;t think any of this matters.
Dallas has a basic direction of working with Murray until they are priced out and even then make sure someone else is really going beyond us and paying big.

At the time and only at that time we can worry about options b, c, d.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

What is the end game? Do you think the Vikings can win a championship even with Peterson? Because I sure don't.

And if that's the case, I don't see how or why they would pay $15 million to Peterson.

I don't think they are close to championship with or without him, but that really isn't the issue. If it was, I guess the Texan should cut JJ Watt so we can have him to? The issue is, is he worth the cap hit and I'd argue yes. He's still the best RB in the league and single handedly carries the offense when he plays. Could they do better with that cap space? I'd argue no, since they have plenty and there isn't an offensive player that will hit the market who is better.

Now I would ask you, what incentive is there for Minnesota to release him prior to the draft, if a.) his salary isn't guaranteed, b.) they have enough cap space to do what ever they want, c.) they want him back

 

[HappyOnions]

I love the player, but I could easily see him not released or too expensive for what I want to see us pay for him. But this one does seem to me to be the sort of thing that just happens in the NFL sometimes.
Especially knowing his love for Dallas. And we'd really have Triplets again, too.

No! No triplets! It was great and all during the 90s, but the path to a championship now is built through depth and solid defensive play.

No mega contract for Dez, no mega contract for Peterson, no mega contract for Murray (although I'd like to keep him since I feel he's more valuable to this team than Dez) and no putting all of our eggs in one basket...

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'm very glad that some people can at least acknowledge the possibility. Others are so dead-set against it that they'll try to convince themselves of anything otherwise.

I'm not dead set against Peterson, but it makes no sense to believe Minnesota is going to release him when it's convenient for us, when everything they say is the opposite.

 

[Doomsday101]

We'll see. You don't know the future any more than I do.

No I don't but I do know he is not a FA he belongs to Minn and all this talk of him really is too funny. He is a 30 year old RB who came of a 1,200 yard season and we are to fawn over him? With Murray it is well you don't pay them for what they have done yet people want to pay AP based on what he has done in the past

 

[Stash]

I love the player, but I could easily see him not released or too expensive for what I want to see us pay for him. But this one does seem to me to be the sort of thing that just happens in the NFL sometimes.

Especially knowing his love for Dallas. And we'd really have Triplets again, too.

I can certainly see things going either way. I can see Murray re-upping in Dallas for a surprisingly reasonable price, and I can see Peterson coming to Dallas if Murray leaves.

It would certainly make for an interesting season if a highly-motivated Peterson were to 'come home' to play for this team and this offense.

And if they were somehow able to afford to add a DE like Greg Hardy, coupled with a solid draft? Look out!

 

[Stash]

I'm not dead set against Peterson, but it makes no sense to believe Minnesota is going to release him when it's convenient for us, when everything they say is the opposite.

Conversely, I just don't see much point in Minnesota keeping him at $15 million considering where the franchise currently is. That makes no sense to me.

 

[jterrell]

I love the player, but I could easily see him not released or too expensive for what I want to see us pay for him. But this one does seem to me to be the sort of thing that just happens in the NFL sometimes.

Especially knowing his love for Dallas. And we'd really have Triplets again, too.

Yup. That is where this isn't all just some weird Dallas fan pipe dream. --maybe Hardy is.
We've heard Peterson say he wants to finish his career as a Cowboy... BEFORE, the drama.
Minny coaches and management largely seemed to pile on AP as opposed to backing him.
We know they are rebuilding and AP is both expensive and also probably in need of a fresh start somewhere.

If he and Jerry were all but having phone grex with a reporter listening in, it seems VERY likely they'd want to talk before AP ever suited up again.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Conversely, I just don't see much point in Minnesota keeping him at $15 million considering where the franchise currently is. That makes no sense to me.

so there is no chance that by holding him they can entice a team to give them a draft pick for him?

 

[Stash]

No I don't but I do know he is not a FA he belongs to Minn and all this talk of him really is too funny.

If it's 'funny', why do you care? Why post on a subject so 'funny'? Seems hypocritical.

He is a 30 year old RB who came of a 1,200 yard season and we are to fawn over him? With Murray it is well you don't pay them for what they have done yet people want to pay AP based on what he has done in the past

I think you're projecting here. I'm not chasing Murray away. Quite the opposite. I'm fine with bringing him back for a reasonable price and I'm not interested in overpaying for either of them. Our line makes the running game go, not the running back.

 

[Stash]

so there is no chance that by holding him they can entice a team to give them a draft pick for him?

None that I can see. The Vikings signed him to a ridiculous contract in an era where everyone is bringing running back salaries down.

Nobody else will touch that deal.