Its quite clear the Cowboys dont see running the ball

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From my point of view. I dont understand why they didnt load up at RB. I get it, I get all the justifications. And its true, we can probably trade for one or pick one up later if need be, if/when we have Gus Johnson/Dunbar starting games at some point in the season. And it makes sense....I am not discounting any of it....

But, if it were me; After what I saw last year? As soon as DM rejected my offer. I load up. I find two RBs(up and coming/already established) and still sign DMC. Let them all battle it out; Put a few on the PS; Randle/Dunbar/DMC would be fighting for a roster spot;

I would have a stable. And we would be running the football;
 

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I think they would've gave him up for a premium pick.

But why would you think that? and even more so, again how we can we goof on something you think they might have done. There was no evidence anywhere that the Vikings had any interest trading Peterson. The only stories that were out, were that Peterson didn't want to play for the Vikings. So again, how can we goof on something that was never an option?
 

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Dallas will continue to run the ball. They will use Mcfadden until he gets hurt and move on to another running back (much like they did with Murray). Murray is not all that much better than Mcfadden. You are letting one contract season running behind the best o-line in football cloud your thinking.
 

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Fred Jackson might have more interest to Seattle because of how they view their current setup. Fred Jackson might not have interest to us because of a combination of scheme fit and they might legitimately like the RBs they have currently. Jackson very well maybe better then a player like Michael or Rawls right now, but I'd imagine that if we add another RB, CB, or WR right now its going to be about what that player might be in the future. Jackson has no future.
 

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Which I see as foolish

I've seen comments like this all off season. Foolish, stupid, dumb and idiotic to name a few. All this coming from Internet Monday morning fantasy GM's. Well I'll admit I might question some moves, but I know for a fact that they have more experience, more data and are much more qualified to run a professional football team then ANYONE posting on this site.

So I will trust their judgement over mine or anyone else on The Zone to make these decisions. To do so otherwise would be stupid, dumb, idiotic and do I dare say, well foolish.
 

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Except they have said the exact opposite all offseason.

Also I love revisionist history. People dismayed at the state of the run game surely didn't think coming into last year we were in for a historic season and Murray was the next Jim Brown.

We will run the ball early, often and successfully.

Coming into last year there was just as many questions about run game
You had a RB who hadn't finished a season healthy in his career
I agree, we will run the ball
It may or may not be as effective but we will run it
And with rink much healthier this year and our wr's really developing into serious weapons it may not need to be as effective as last year
But then again with romo healthy and the passing game looking like it could be better, that could open up the run game even more
Our rb's may not be as powerful as Murray was but they certainly pose a bigger threat to get the big plays
 

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Nope. They like the RBs that they have now. They also believe that if they have injuries or these RBs don't perform that they can get another RB if needed. It would likely require a trade and they might have to overpay in trade compensation compared to making a trade in the off-season but they believe that it could be done if necessary. McClay said in an interview recently "we can get a RB if needed but getting an OT would be very difficult".

Also, it's not impossible that they could add another RB after the cuts. I would not be shocked if they carried 4 RBs, at least in this time period while Hardy and McClain are suspended which creates 2 additional roster spots.

FYI, nice job sneaking in another Jackson thread.

Yah, you didnt read my post very well.
 

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So let me get this straight.

The cowboys don't see running the ball as important as last year because they didn't load up on RB's, and instead choose to rely on Dunbar, Mcfadden, and Randle. Who you believe will suck.

Yet at this exact time last year, we were bringing in a OC who was known for passing over 60% of the time, and were relying on a rookie in randle, and previously injured Dunbar, and a up to this point constantly injured Murrary who had one 1000 yard season.

And since of course the Cowboys are wrong in believing that there committee of this year can be just effective as the committee they had last year, they are in essence, saying we are going to pass the ball more.

Ok, got it!

Nope, bad interpretation
 

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How do you conclude that before the season starts or before it has even ended? :huh:

As Aaron Rodgers said last year, "Chillax!" ;)

If you are going to be a power running team like last year, then you dont go into the season with these three backs ONLY and pass on a guy like Fred Jackson.

And I agree they really think these 3 guys can get the job done. I just think that is foolish.
 

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Yeah but sometimes the space is so confined that it kinda negates how good your OL is.

It's not hard for the defense to cause a massive pile on those plays.

It's basically just a scrum.

It's harder to create a pile up on the edge. You run power left or right and it's hard for all the linebackers to crash down. If you try to ram it through the "A" gaps then you can stack things up easier with the linemen diving while the linebackers crash in covering the top.

At the end of the day though short yardage situations are about desire/willpower. Who wants it more? I think the Dallas o-line is a safe bet both physically and mentally the bulk of the time. Our running backs, well that is yet to be determined but we should have an answer in by October.


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I do, too. It just seems like the next most likely topic to beat to death once we've jellied the horse-corpse of this running back debate.
Those jars spoiled back in early June.

Preseason doesn't show much when coaches do not expose their playbooks for the rest of the league to see. However, special teams' play has been spotty enough to cause some concern. In my opinion, we have improved somewhat on coverage assignments on kicks but we are still being blocked too easily before making (or attempting to make) the tackle. I'm actually looking forward to the cut down to 53 so the evaluation can eliminate a lot of the player possibilities that will not factor into the final roster anyway.
 

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Dallas will run the ball..just a little skeptical our guys can hold up to the beating. But I think lil dump passes will act like runs more this year than last as an extension of the run game. Especially since the OLine is good at getting to the second level.

This is exactly what I am saying.
 

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That's just silly. This Offense has been built to run the ball. Just because they didn't go immediately and get a pet cat you wanted, doesn't mean they have given up on the run game. My guess is that since you called McFadden a silly name, that you will never be satisfied with anything he does here since that would not fit the agenda. I don't know what the run game will look like and I am not sold that the 3 backs currently on the roster will be the opening day backs either. I think Dunbar is in real jeopardy if a back gets cut that they like better. I just hope that all these guys that are so sure our run game will be non existent because we didn't sign back that other back, all come in and admit they were wrong when we run for over 2K this year as a TEAM.

Never said they gave up on the run game.
 

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How do you conclude that before the season starts or before it has even ended? :huh:

As Aaron Rodgers said last year, "Chillax!" ;)

I said exactly why in my post. Because of the 3 backs they think are going to get the job done.
 

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Or, perhaps they think that the backs that they have can and will produce.

I don't think that they feel that the run is less important. They have confidence in the personnel upfront, and of the collective abilities of the backs.

Now, I'm not a fan of the running backs on the roster, and I think they made a mistake in not securing a better option to replace Murray. They feel differently.

We'll see who is right.

I agree that is what they think. I also think that is foolish.
 

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It's harder to create a pile up on the edge. You run power left or right and it's hard for all the linebackers to crash down. If you try to ram it through the "A" gaps then you can stack things up easier with the linemen diving while the linebackers crash in covering the top.

At the end of the day though short yardage situations are about desire/willpower. Who wants it more? I think the Dallas o-line is a safe bet both physically and mentally the bulk of the time. Our running backs, well that is yet to be determined but we should have an answer in by October.


Craig

I agree, I just cant believe they are taking the RB situation so lightly. Its foolish in my opinion.
 
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