Sturm's Morning After: Cowboys have a coaching mess; Garrett ignores reality of the underdog

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Garrett would be better as a GM than a head coach. He can find and bring talented guys here... him and McClay. We've ended up with Marinelli, Linehan, had Callahan and we have a ton of talented players on the team. We're just not getting maximum benefit from them.
 

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Good points!!! Unfortunately, the fans are the ones who pay the price for Jerry being "comfortable". I have never understand why he would sacrifice success by hiring inferior coaches to make himself look better when it has the opposite affect.

Jerry's "comfortable" and we're collectively and increasingly "Comfortably Numb".
 

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Wade did OK when he 1st took over the teams but always ran them into the ground because the inmates would always take over and start running the asylum.

He was OK in Dallas when he took over the team that had been coached up by Parcells but then he destroyed the team mentality with no discipline or leadership.

Even Switzer won with Jimmy's team.

Buffalo hasn't won jack squat since Wade left. And by your Switzer logic, Shanahan won the SB based on Wade's team..

Wade was dealing with an inept Garrett during his tenure. It took Jerry 3 years of Garrett bungling the offense on his own, to surround him with some experienced coaches. If he had listened to Wade, Dan Reeves could have taught Garrett a thing or two about running the ball. Of course the standard reaction to that incident is Jerry axed it because of a time-card issue...

Like that is believable.. Jerry saw the need for Garrett to have some experienced input, because Garrett was struggling, but he decided to axe it because of a timecard issue. It's not like he could have gotten somebody else..
 

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Buffalo hasn't won jack squat since Wade left. And by your Switzer logic, Shanahan won the SB based on Wade's team..

Wade was dealing with an inept Garrett during his tenure. It took Jerry 3 years of Garrett bungling the offense on his own, to surround him with some experienced coaches. If he had listened to Wade, Dan Reeves could have taught Garrett a thing or two about running the ball. Of course the standard reaction to that incident is Jerry axed it because of a time-card issue...

Like that is believable.. Jerry saw the need for Garrett to have some experienced input, because Garrett was struggling, but he decided to axe it because of a timecard issue. It's not like he could have gotten somebody else..

Switzer even admits that he won with "Jimmy's Players".
 

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Sturm's great. He's just wrong on this one. Nobody's perfect. You're not going to innovate yourself out of a bad offense. And people aren't crediting the team for the innovations they did try this weekend, anyway. Why? Because they didn't work.

What general fans always want to see is plays that work. They may call it innovation when the plays that don't work are conservative. They'll call it 'getting back to basics and just being more physical' when creativity doesn't work. Either way, they don't care. They just want to see production.

The reality is there are a lot of reasons why NFL teams can lose football games. Not all of them are the fault of the coaching staff. Though all of them are their responsibility. That's what's gone on in Dallas the last 5 weeks.

Sturms very good you are right. But since joining DMN his aims (or lets say interests) have changed.

Sturm now has an interest in wrting alot of stuff and having alot of readers clikcing his stories.

He is still good but not all of his stories are good also.

This one is not to his standard. Its more of an emotional story made up by fitting the public expectation. Too flat and no real substance. But because of it it draws alot of clicks and readers.
 

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I consider several people here to be at the top of the fan base in terms of knowledge.

The average fans that you meet in everyday life really have no clue. They know Romo, Witten, Dez and maybe a couple of others.

"Knowledge" is a relative term. Unless someone played the game at a high level, worked for an NFL team or scouted, then they offer their opinions and back up the opinion. I can't differenciate "knowledge" per se, as we all put our personal spin on what we see.

In any event, Broaddus has been a scout and worked at the professional level but that doesn't keep you and some others from attacking his opinion and "knowledge." Same with retired athletes who work for NFLN, ESPN, etc. that offer opinions that happen to differ from yours. I don't see you and a few others defer to their "knowlege," experience and expertise. So sorry if I take your 1% comment with an absolute grain of salt.
 

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We're just trying to win a couple of games here.


The guys in that locker room are capable of winning a game without Romo.


They have been hindered by this offensive coaching staff.



Do we need to be more innovative? Of course we do. But that has just been a small part of the problem.


We are completely predictable on offense with the plays we do have.

The coaching right now is bad.


Jerry himself said this team is built to withstand the loss of Romo for a period of time. Now we've gone 0-5 without him.

This sounds similar to a post that was railing on the defense only to see someone reply that the defense only gave up 13 points.

Fans can imagine all kinds of problems that really aren't the problem.

After the Giants game someone blamed Dan Bailey for the loss because he didn't kick the ball through the end-zone on the return for a TD by Harris.

I realize is makes you feel better to blame the coaching but in reality the Cowboys were expected to lose these games with these scrub backup QBs.

There are 32 NFL teams and only about 20 or less humans that can function as quality NFL QBs.
 

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When Weed was the QB everyone demanded that they "bring in" Cassel and lamented on why they didn't "bring in" Cassel sooner.

I confess. That was me.

I think we have one win with Cassel though when all is said and done.
 

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Sturms very good you are right. But since joining DMN his aims (or lets say interests) have changed.

Sturm now has an interest in wrting alot of stuff and having alot of readers clikcing his stories.

He is still good but not all of his stories are good also.

This one is not to his standard. Its more of an emotional story made up by fitting the public expectation. Too flat and no real substance. But because of it it draws alot of clicks and readers.

He's definitely at his best when he sticks to analysis, because that's what makes him unique. I agree that the opinion pieces open him up for disagreement. And you're probably right that his powers that be want a bit of opinion mixed in with the analysis that got him where he is in the first place.
 

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Sturms very good you are right. But since joining DMN his aims (or lets say interests) have changed.

Sturm now has an interest in wrting alot of stuff and having alot of readers clikcing his stories.

He is still good but not all of his stories are good also.

This one is not to his standard. Its more of an emotional story made up by fitting the public expectation. Too flat and no real substance. But because of it it draws alot of clicks and readers.

Dead on. I love what Sturm does and he's by far the best local media guy covering the Cowboys; however, if he has to "pay the bills" or needs a new swimming pool then I'm OK if he has to put out some junk once in awhile. I hear that Sally wears out the credit cards...
 

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I confess. That was me.

I think we have one win with Cassel though when all is said and done.

Sadly, we might have won the Giants game with Weed. If not for the INTs, the running game with 233 yards dominated and the defense was good.
 

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Sadly, we might have won the Giants game with Weed. If not for the INTs, the running game with 233 yards dominated and the defense was good.

Maybe... Never know now...

Is Randle worse than Antonio Bryant was?
 

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This sounds similar to a post that was railing on the defense only to see someone reply that the defense only gave up 13 points.

Fans can imagine all kinds of problems that really aren't the problem.

After the Giants game someone blamed Dan Bailey for the loss because he didn't kick the ball through the end-zone on the return for a TD by Harris.

I realize is makes you feel better to blame the coaching but in reality the Cowboys were expected to lose these games with these scrub backup QBs.

There are 32 NFL teams and only about 20 or less humans that can function as quality NFL QBs.

Lol at expectations..

Sorry but I watched the games and Dallas could've easily won 2 or 3 of them.


Also, go put your money down on some games if you're so confident in others expectations.
 

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This sounds similar to a post that was railing on the defense only to see someone reply that the defense only gave up 13 points.

Fans can imagine all kinds of problems that really aren't the problem.

After the Giants game someone blamed Dan Bailey for the loss because he didn't kick the ball through the end-zone on the return for a TD by Harris.

I realize is makes you feel better to blame the coaching but in reality the Cowboys were expected to lose these games with these scrub backup QBs.

There are 32 NFL teams and only about 20 or less humans that can function as quality NFL QBs.


Cassell has functioned as a NFL QB and won games in the NFL.

This isn't some crap QB that never wins and should be out of the league.
 

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Switzer even admits that he won with "Jimmy's Players".

So then Shanahan won with Wade's players... You see how fallacious that logic is. Every situation is different... There are so many proofs of the incompetence of Jason, which becomes more and more apparent as time progresses, clearly demonstrating Wade got the shaft for this clown. For all the excuses Garrett gets, Wade isn't afforded any of them, though the reality is Wade was the one actually plagued by FO meddling and this FO has done everything to help Jason succeed, but he hasn't.

Wade had always maintained that he is against drafting a WR in the first round. That being said, Jerry leveraged a draft essentially to get Roy Williams to boost the 'struggling offense'. This was over a year before the team allegedly quite on Wade, meaning there was already recognition within the FO that the offense was struggling, before Wade ever 'lost the team' and the defense put up some duds after Garrett's offense couldn't move the ball. They also were, as I said, planning to hire Dan Reeves to oversee the running game, meaning irrespective of all the talk, the actions were clear that Jason Garrett was struggling and the FO was looking for ways to boost the offense. The offense was getting bashed because they weren't running the ball, but most homers wanted to blame that on Wade, because Garrett was their alleged savior. This despite the fact Wade didn't even touch the offense.

Even when he hired Linehan, Jerry mentioned coaches often gave lip service to the running game, but didn't run the ball. This was way after Wade left meaning, Jerry was clearly indicating Boy Wonder wasn't running the ball. When Rob Ryan was fired, the reason was he didn't generate TOs. And Garrett himself said that the offense could be more effective if the defense provided more chances, meaning he was looking for a scapegoat. But he continued to suck and he didn't score the ball, and was finally demoted. He couldn't even tolerate a well experienced coach like Callahan, who built the OL for that matter, to alter the offense for better.

The guy is a career politician... That's why he's latched onto Romo during basketball games...
 

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"Knowledge" is a relative term. Unless someone played the game at a high level, worked for an NFL team or scouted, then they offer their opinions and back up the opinion. I can't differenciate "knowledge" per se, as we all put our personal spin on what we see.

In any event, Broaddus has been a scout and worked at the professional level but that doesn't keep you and some others from attacking his opinion and "knowledge." Same with retired athletes who work for NFLN, ESPN, etc. that offer opinions that happen to differ from yours. I don't see you and a few others defer to their "knowlege," experience and expertise. So sorry if I take your 1% comment with an absolute grain of salt.

Exposure to information does not make someone an expert. Broaddus has admitted that Helman has to write his stories because Broaddus writing skill is not past a 3rd grade level. If a guy is just not intelligent, all of the exposure in the world is not going to make him an expert.

Many ex-players are much like Morris Claiborne who scored about 6 on the Wonderlic. They learned their position with a lot of repetition but that does not mean that are great at using logic to analyze teams as a media member.

There are a few ex-football guys that really do have good knowledge, but those usually get sucked into the void of ESPN and become part of the nonsense that many ESPN employees have admitted that they are encouraged to become.

If you think about it logically, it stands to reason that some fans would be smarter than most "football people". Players and most coaches come from a pool of humans that were physically good enough to at least play college football. That automatically eliminates the vast majority of the population. Stephen Hawking was not going to become a football coach for obvious reasons but if tasked with analyzing football he could obviously make himself an expert.

A guy like Jermey Parnell didn't really know anything about football when he got to the Cowboys because he was a basketball player in college that played a few snaps as a DE in 6 football games. He just got a 32M contract because he has physical ability that the vast majority of humans don't have and even the vast majority of kids that played football all of their lives even through college don't have.

The Efe kid from Europe came closer than the majority to people ever do to being an NFL player despite the very most minimal knowledge of the game. He was here purely because of his physical ability.

If Parnell can develop into an NFL player worth a 32M contract purely on his physical ability then whey can't some people in the world develop a very high knowledge level of football purely on their mental ability?

It's a funny subject. I'll readily admit with no embarrassment that I don't have Byron Jones type athleticism. Heck I don't even have Jeff Heath type athleticism; however, almost nobody can admit that they don't have high level intelligence and indeed might be in the bottom half of the population from an intelligence perspective. You or most people would probably admit that you can't compete with Byron Jones but you would probably argue that your opinion is better than the opinion of a guy that works for NASA even if your career is cleaning toilets.

I expect to see more and more non-football people start to become GMs and scouts now in the age of advanced metrics and "Money Ball" type of decision making. The Texas Rangers have had the most success in their history with a GM that didn't play baseball. The Cowboys and other teams already have consultants that analyze stats for them. It would not be surprising if some of those consultants were fans that posted on message boards.

Speaking of the concept that you don't know who the people are that post on fan message boards, it's always possible that some posters have football backgrounds or have access to people that are employed in football. When you consider just all of the relatives of NFL players and NFL and college coaches, it is a very large pool and some of them are inevitably going to end up on fan message boards. My point being that a blanket statement that some "fans" can't have a very high level of knowledge or access to that knowledge when debating a subject is silly. That statement is just a lazy retort by people that can't argue the point on their own merit.
 

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Oh by the way, Coach Cupcake just throttled Aaron Rodgers. The highlight of Denver this season is their defense after just a season with Wade coaching, not an offense led by Manning... Imagine if Wade wasn't throttled with guys like Jacques Reeves and Old-man Anthony Henry the year they went 13-3, and guys like Ayodele and Brady James in pass coverage, all Parcells guys, despite Garrett as their OC.

I've never seen such disrespect for a football legend for a red-headed clown who has accomplished nothing other than following his daddy around, wherever he went. I'm sure Jimmy Johnson was scouting the Arena league to pick up a guy like Garrett, as opposed to Garrett being here because his father was in the FO and a right-hand man of Jerry...
 

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I like how this has devolved into now ripping Sturm for bias. He has been writing the same way and the same message for years. Go back and read anything from 2012-4. His message has been constant.

Classic…but it lets you know the desperation has set it.
 

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Sturm wants the team to act desperate. Nice.

I will pass on that sentiment myself. If the odds aren't there then they aren't there. There is no default win and I really wish people would live in the reality as it is. We let our starting RB go and then the top WR and QB got hurt. It is what it is.
 
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