How's our draft position looking?

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,667
Reaction score
27,233
This is probably the highest we will pick in a while, IMO. Now is the time to get a QB. For those saying we should not, and go for another position because the QB is not guaranteed to be any good, then what makes you think those other positions will be any good? IMO, the entire draft is a shot in the dark. But without a future QB, I do know we're looking at possibly going 30 years without a SB.
 

Cowboyz88

Well-Known Member
Messages
11,088
Reaction score
9,897
Problem is first round qbs are far from guaranteed players. What if you groom a qb for a couple years and he ends up being a Weeden or Geno Smith or Ponder? And we miss the opportunity to get. JJ Watt or Wagner type player?

I don't envy the scouts in this draft. They have to be 100% right, or it could set us back years

Given all the busts, I understand the concern, but the flip side is what if you groom a QB and he's the next Rodgers, Rivers, Manning, etc.?

Then, we've set ourselves up (theoretically) for the next 10+ years.

Truth is that first round, any positions are far from guaranteed players, so you just have to hope you've done your due diligence and roll the dice.

And if you're going to hit, isn't it best to hit on the most important position on the field?
 
Last edited:

SilverStarCowboy

The Actualist
Messages
10,337
Reaction score
1,997
If we land at 4 or 8 the pick is LB because Dallas will sign a FA Vet at QB....i.e. KaperPICK, RGinjury or Johnson Football.
 

tyke1doe

Well-Known Member
Messages
53,667
Reaction score
32,042
If Dallas wins against skins (which I think they will):

1. TEN 3-13 (plays at Indy) (SOS .492)
2. CLE 3-13 (home against Steelers) (SOS .534)
3. SD 4-12 (at Denver) (SOS .523)
4. Miami 5-11 (home against NE) (SOS .449)
5. Jacksonville 5-11 (at Houston) (SOS .469)
6. Dallas 5-11 (home against Commanders) (SOS .538)
7. San Fran 5-11 (at home against Rams) (SOS .552)

If Dallas loses against skins (unlikely but possible):

1. TEN 3-13 (plays at Indy) (SOS .492)
2. CLE 3-13 (home against Steelers) (SOS .534)
3. SD 4-12 (at Denver) (SOS .523)
4. Dallas 4-12 (home against Commanders) (SOS .538)
5. Miami 5-11 (home against NE) (SOS .449)
6. Jacksonville 5-11 (at Houston) (SOS .469)
7. Dallas 5-11 (home against Commanders) (SOS .538)
8. San Fran 5-11 (at home against Rams) (SOS .552)

Based on your scenarios, if Dallas finishes 4-12, they're in the second cat bird's seat.
Tennessee doesn't need a quarterback. They could conceivably trade with the Browns to assure Cleveland gets Lynch or they could trade with San Francisco, though I don't think they want to drop down THAT far unless they get a lot in return.
Cleveland needs a quarterback so they won't be making any trades. San Diego needs a LT, and I doubt they want to miss out on Tunsil.
That leaves the Cowboys, who can either take Goff (I think it's too high for Goff, personally) or trade down And pick up extra picks in the second or third.
 

FLcowboy

When Jerry, when?
Messages
4,061
Reaction score
260
Based on your scenarios, if Dallas finishes 4-12, they're in the second cat bird's seat.
Tennessee doesn't need a quarterback. They could conceivably trade with the Browns to assure Cleveland gets Lynch or they could trade with San Francisco, though I don't think they want to drop down THAT far unless they get a lot in return.
Cleveland needs a quarterback so they won't be making any trades. San Diego needs a LT, and I doubt they want to miss out on Tunsil.
That leaves the Cowboys, who can either take Goff (I think it's too high for Goff, personally) or trade down And pick up extra picks in the second or third.


Or trade down and get another first. Who's out there with two firsts?
 

bayeslife

187beatdown
Messages
9,460
Reaction score
8,582
I hope we don't. We need a team to take them before we're up.
This is probably the highest we will pick in a while, IMO. Now is the time to get a QB. For those saying we should not, and go for another position because the QB is not guaranteed to be any good, then what makes you think those other positions will be any good? IMO, the entire draft is a shot in the dark. But without a future QB, I do know we're looking at possibly going 30 years without a SB.

This 100%.

As long as Romo is QB we won't draft this high again. And we actually have the first choice of QB too.
 

waving monkey

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,540
Reaction score
14,930
No, they need Goff to fall so the Niners trade a boat load to move up to get him. Take Wentz in the second.

Niners trade up to the 1st over all or second over all for Goof is my thoughts
Everything turns on the Browns and Manzeil
 

waving monkey

Well-Known Member
Messages
15,540
Reaction score
14,930
This is probably the highest we will pick in a while, IMO. Now is the time to get a QB. For those saying we should not, and go for another position because the QB is not guaranteed to be any good, then what makes you think those other positions will be any good? IMO, the entire draft is a shot in the dark. But without a future QB, I do know we're looking at possibly going 30 years without a SB.

I agree with everything you said except the last sentence
 

Clove

Shrinkage
Messages
64,667
Reaction score
27,233
Based on your scenarios, if Dallas finishes 4-12, they're in the second cat bird's seat.
Tennessee doesn't need a quarterback. They could conceivably trade with the Browns to assure Cleveland gets Lynch or they could trade with San Francisco, though I don't think they want to drop down THAT far unless they get a lot in return.
Cleveland needs a quarterback so they won't be making any trades. San Diego needs a LT, and I doubt they want to miss out on Tunsil.
That leaves the Cowboys, who can either take Goff (I think it's too high for Goff, personally) or trade down And pick up extra picks in the second or third.
No offense to you in particular, but you don't just trade down, you need another team to play ball.
 

Doomsday

Rising Star
Messages
19,824
Reaction score
16,113
No, they need Goff to fall so the Niners trade a boat load to move up to get him. Take Wentz in the second.

There is always one QB who jumps up draft boards each year, this year I will put my money on Wentz doing so. He is going to end up a top 15 pick I bet.
 

edmon

Member
Messages
44
Reaction score
73
If Dallas wins against skins (which I think they will):

1. TEN 3-13 (plays at Indy) (SOS .492)
2. CLE 3-13 (home against Steelers) (SOS .534)
3. SD 4-12 (at Denver) (SOS .523)
4. Miami 5-11 (home against NE) (SOS .449)
5. Jacksonville 5-11 (at Houston) (SOS .469)
6. Dallas 5-11 (home against Commanders) (SOS .538)
7. San Fran 5-11 (at home against Rams) (SOS .552)

If Dallas loses against skins (unlikely but possible):

1. TEN 3-13 (plays at Indy) (SOS .492)
2. CLE 3-13 (home against Steelers) (SOS .534)
3. SD 4-12 (at Denver) (SOS .523)
4. Dallas 4-12 (home against Commanders) (SOS .538)
5. Miami 5-11 (home against NE) (SOS .449)
6. Jacksonville 5-11 (at Houston) (SOS .469)
7. Dallas 5-11 (home against Commanders) (SOS .538)
8. San Fran 5-11 (at home against Rams) (SOS .552)

So if we win we get the 6 pick, but if we lose we get 4 and 7. I'm all in on tanking now. ;):flagwave:
 
Top