News: Randy Gregory Suspended Four Games

[Dodger12]

Alcohol is MUCH more addictive when compared to marijuana (nearly non existent)?

Pssstttt........Don't tell that to Randy Gregory.

 

[BigStar]

Pssstttt........Don't tell that to Randy Gregory.

Again, immaturity and a 23 year old pothead without his priorities in check. Nice side step on alcohol btw

 

[CCBoy]

Again, immaturity and a 23 year old pothead without his priorities in check. Nice side step on alcohol btw

Oh, alcohol is no longer a problem...thanks for that illumination also. Us old schools just will have to go relearn the 'new' world of things...

 

[BigStar]

Oh, alcohol is no longer a problem...thanks for that illumination also. Us old schools just will have to go relearn the 'new' world of things...

No not at all. I was agreeing that though it was more commonly accepted, that doesn't mean millions aren't inflicted with alcohol addiction in all generations and one of the leaders of premature death in the US either via overuse/addiction.

There is need for treatment and growing awareness of how easy it is to become addicted in a shorter time than many expect. Apologize for coming off as ageist w GIF if it did bc that wasn't my intent; just side stepping the whole alcohol problem and contradictions, etc. I will say that younger generations have a much more positive outlook on marijuana and believe alcohol can be more harmful to their healthy lifestyles; in general discussion, etc.

 

[Redball Express]

I reject nearly all of this to put it simply. While I doubt anyone here is as frustrated as I am in the SB futility of the last 20 years most of what you are saying is borne of a doom and gloom all or nothing mentality.

Whatever.

I'm not trying to convince you what I see.

I'm still trying to unconvinced myself.

Difficult to not admit to what you see after following the team for 45 years.

Since this team shifted from playing football to becoming an entertainment company with this stadium..

football has just dropped off the edge.

It's just what I see.

 

[Redball Express]

and I personally see no difference in the two

I don't either.

But unfortunately..

what he does for a living prohibits doing it.

This is America. He can do what he wants but he will shortly be doing it as a checkout clerk at 7-11.

He will not be rolling up big fattys and going to practice anymore.

 

[jobberone]

Whatever.

I'm not trying to convince you what I see.

I'm still trying to unconvinced myself.

Difficult to not admit to what you see after following the team for 45 years.

Since this team shifted from playing football to becoming an entertainment company with this stadium..

football has just dropped off the edge.

It's just what I see.

Ok. Well, the frustration is coming in loud and clear and I understand it. If you weren't frustrated you wouldn't care.

The bolded is where you lose me. I doubt there is a person alive who is more frustrated than Jerry Jones, self inflicted wounds and all. I went thru a period where I couldn't stand the man. He has changed. People can walk and chew gum at the same time...well most of us. And he can use that businessman part to make money and still be driven to win SBs.

We can disagree on this but I'm as certain as is humanly possible I've read this correctly.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

Like a guy who likes a beer after work...

I hear they both are gateway drugs. Devil's stuff, you know, blokes.

 

[Dodger12]

Again, immaturity and a 23 year old pothead without his priorities in check. Nice side step on alcohol btw

I didn't sidestep alcohol. If a player is an alcoholic it can derail his career just as easily as drugs. But the reality is that one legal within the norm and the other is not. Weed proponents point to alcohol at as comparison and make silly statements like one is addictive while the other (weed) is not. Randy Gregory has an weed problem. It's not a stretch to assume he's addicted to the drug at this point since he can't stay clean with millions of dollars hanging in the balance. That's not normal.

Using anxiety to excuse his behavior is an insult to those folks who have anxiety and try to cope with it with medical treatment and carry on with their daily routines (work, family, etc.). Randy Gregory has more medical resources to help him cope with any health issues than most average Americans and he still can't stay off the drug. It has nothing to do with immaturity.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Chalk up another RKG!!!!

Who was it just last week that was talking about how we could turn around the team and defense in one year? There goes theory. The hope for the defense was that Gregory would morph into a pass rushing demon in his second year. That is pretty much toast now. Two wasted years for him.

 

[CCBoy]

Chalk up another RKG!!!!

Who was it just last week that was talking about how we could turn around the team and defense in one year? There goes theory. The hope for the defense was that Gregory would morph into a pass rushing demon in his second year. That is pretty much toast now. Two wasted years for him.

Show me where that is written in stone...

The status of the rest of the team, was already known and the team is exploring all the alternatives available.

This Friday starts the Combine and in two weeks, free agency.

As to Gregory, he is out four weeks at the start of next season, and has all the off season to continue on his personal growth.

I don't yet see any spilled milk to cry over...and Denver rode the same pony just two seasons ago, and now have to deal with a $18,000,000 contract when he proved out potential. Go figure now...

 

[plasticman]

The point isn't whether pot should be a banned substance. I for one don't believe it should, Again, that's not the point.

The point is, pot is a banned substance and Gregory knew it and couldn't stay away. The Narcotics Anonymous definition of "addicted" is when it caused your life top become unmanageable. Well,....?

 

[BigStar]

I didn't sidestep alcohol. If a player is an alcoholic it can derail his career just as easily as drugs. But the reality is that one legal within the norm and the other is not. Weed proponents point to alcohol at as comparison and make silly statements like one is addictive while the other (weed) is not. Randy Gregory has an weed problem. It's not a stretch to assume he's addicted to the drug at this point since he can't stay clean with millions of dollars hanging in the balance. That's not normal.

Using anxiety to excuse his behavior is an insult to those folks who have anxiety and try to cope with it with medical treatment and carry on with their daily routines (work, family, etc.). Randy Gregory has more medical resources to help him cope with any health issues than most average Americans and he still can't stay off the drug. It has nothing to do with immaturity.

Alcohol is much more addictive than marijuana (which has very low rates). Just look to withdrawal symptoms for that simple conclusion. I get one is legal for cultural reasons, and the other is not. Most potheads are highly psychologically addicted to marijuana with minimal physical addiction (mainly lack of appetite, insomnia, and irritability) as the withdrawal symptoms are very light when compared to booze (alcoholics die/ shake/ sweat profusely/heart attacks, strokes, and seizures).

Gregory's problems are a result of outdated laws, not because he is a bad person or even a legitimate addict. Anybody who has been to rehab will tell you that anyone entering the program for Marijuana are taken as a joke bc it is usually court related or even worse if they self admitted themselves; potheads insultingly compare their addictions to physical addictions like opiates, benzos, and alcohol; officially by group members and unofficially via counselors and physicians.

The reason the anxiety "excuse" is brought up is that weed is widely known to relax people but ignorant fans want him to be treated with highly addictive benzos like Xanax, Clonipin, Valium, etc. He should have the freedom to choose weed, just many choose alcohol (even if he just likes it to relax) over life long and life threatening addiction to those substances makes a little sense...Stepnoski used weed throughout his career as a replacement for painkiller; specifically avoiding the addictive NFL sanctioned pain killers when possible( Vicodin, Perks, Oxy ) even back before the epidemic. Brett Favre agrees with the NFL's legal method

 

[zrinkill]

Guy is an idiot .......

Its not even debatable.

Messed up his draft position and now messing up his sophomore season in the NFL.

 

[Doomsday101]

Again, immaturity and a 23 year old pothead without his priorities in check. Nice side step on alcohol btw

Side step? LOL any substance be it weed or alcohol is a problem when you can't control it. Gregory knows damn well that smoking weed will get him suspended this is not a 1st violation it takes other failed test to get the 4 games suspension. Act like one substance is worse than another is stupid both are problems when a player can't stop doing it. To me him drinking or getting high makes no difference what matters is he is missing 4 games because he can't control his own habit

 

[Doomsday101]

Alcohol is much more addictive than marijuana (which has very low rates). Just look to withdrawal symptoms for that simple conclusion. I get one is legal for cultural reasons, and the other is not. Most potheads are highly psychologically addicted to marijuana with minimal physical addiction (mainly lack of appetite, insomnia, and irritability) as the withdrawal symptoms are very light when compared to booze (alcoholics die/ shake/ sweat profusely/heart attacks, strokes, and seizures).

Gregory's problems are a result of outdated laws, not because he is a bad person or even a legitimate addict. Anybody who has been to rehab will tell you that anyone entering the program for Marijuana are taken as a joke bc it is usually court related or even worse if they self admitted themselves; potheads insultingly compare their addictions to physical addictions like opiates, benzos, and alcohol; officially by group members and unofficially via counselors and physicians.

The reason the anxiety "excuse" is brought up is that weed is widely known to relax people but ignorant fans want him to be treated with highly addictive benzos like Xanax, Clonipin, Valium, etc. He should have the freedom to choose weed, just many choose alcohol (even if he just likes it to relax) over life long and life threatening addiction to those substances makes a little sense...Stepnoski used weed throughout his career as a replacement for painkiller; specifically avoiding the addictive NFL sanctioned pain killers when possible( Vicodin, Perks, Oxy ) even back before the epidemic. Brett Favre agrees with the NFL's legal method

who cares? what is more additive fact Gregory is suspended not because of drinking but because of weed all this other stuff you are throwing out there is because of your own feeling of weed being legal. It is not and his action will cost this team

 

[BigStar]

Side step? LOL any substance be it weed or alcohol is a problem when you can't control it. Gregory knows damn well that smoking weed will get him suspended this is not a 1st violation it takes other failed test to get the 4 games suspension. Act like one substance is worse than another is stupid both are problems when a player can't stop doing it. To me him drinking or getting high makes no difference what matters is he is missing 4 games because he can't control his own habit

I agree with your general point, but in time, Gregory's problems wouldn't even exist to begin with if there wasn't consistent resistance to change both in the NFL and US in general on this outdated policy overall. Back to the unjust rules, etc. I get he is a knucklehead who prioritizes weed over his career and that is a bad sign. He also is 23 and has enormously raw talent to work with. The right coaching/counseling could nip this in the bud and we have another Jimmy Smith situation (I know JSmith was due to injuries).

 

[Doomsday101]

I agree with your general point, but in time, Gregory's problems wouldn't even exist to begin with if their wasn't consistent resistance to change both in the NFL and US in general.

It is legal in Colorado but employers still have the right to drug test workers and if they fail you can be terminated. Really means nothing if you make it legal it does not remove the fact the people who hire you can and will fire you for getting high or drunk on the job.

 

[BigStar]

It is legal in Colorado but employers still have the right to drug test workers and if they fail you can be terminated. Really means nothing if you make it legal it does not remove the fact the people who hire you can and will fire you for getting high or drunk on the job.

This is very much true. Do you think that has nothing due to current laws not changing (federally) and only bc the company believes it really effects productivity if done after work hours? All the people I know who work in similar establishments just "get around it" anyway. Tbh, I know this is an uphill battle to support the kid, but feel like all the idiot and thug crap should lessen in the forum bc we knew what we were getting in the late 2nd for a reason?

 

[MikeT22]

Von Miller was suspended for 6 games for weed in 2013 and was just named the SB MVP

We'll have to see how it works out. Doesn't look good now though, especially since we knew this is why he fell in the draft in the first place.