Cowboys only 1 seed of the past ten to not make the Super Bowl

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That said, the chances that Garrett can deliver a championship without all the stars in the universe aligning in some cosmic synergy is remote. He has consistently done less with more. Romo made him and saved him many times. The only two times he reached the playoffs was with the league's best rushing attack, and even then he could not will his team to even a title game. Who would have thought that after last season Cowboy fans would be watching their most hated rival advance (and possibly win) to a frigging SuperBowl this year. No one would have taken that bet at the end of last year.

Really? The difference between a good team and a great one in this league is what? 2-3 good players maybe? Take them away from 13-3 and get 9-7. That’s pretty believable to me. Add them to 7-9 and get 13-3 is a bit more of a stretch, but there’s no denying the Eagles executed with personnel this offseason. They also got much, much better QB play from Wentz.

I don’t find it remotely shocking. How often have we seen teams make big jumps season to season in this league? It’s more the standard than it is the exception. The league relies on parity. That how it’s setup.
 

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Really? The difference between a good team and a great one in this league is what? 2-3 good players maybe? Take them away from 13-3 and get 9-7. That’s pretty believable to me. Add them to 7-9 and get 13-3 is a bit more of a stretch, but there’s no denying the Eagles executed with personnel this offseason. They also got much, much better QB play from Wentz.

I don’t find it remotely shocking. How often have we seen teams make big jumps season to season in this league? It’s more the standard than it is the exception. The league relies on parity. That how it’s setup.

Except they lost some of their key personnel - no Wentz, not Peters, no MLB.

And yet they found a way to overcome that and continue to win, all the way to a SB appearance.

Where would the Cowboys be in a similar situation? Wait, we've seen that.
 

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and next year after the playoff starts will continue to see the same threads we see this year with the same tired old excuses from the supporters of Jason garrett as we continue to wallow around in mediocrity for me any more its getting to the point where it don't really matter much any more.
 

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Except they lost some of their key personnel - no Wentz, not Peters, no MLB.

And yet they found a way to overcome that and continue to win, all the way to a SB appearance.

Where would the Cowboys be in a similar situation? Wait, we've seen that.

It’s ok to let the self-indulgent loathing take a break if you want to.

The Eagles have a good and deep team. Their defense is outstanding. They built on a solid core and made pretty much all the correct moves this offseason. The Cowboys did not. We let a handful of good role players go and then whiffed in their replacements. A few key injuries and a few large distractions and it was too much to overcome.

But don’t fool yourself. One questionable officiating call in the ATL game or one more pass defenses in last year’s GB playoff game and the situations with these teams would reverse. In a league where whole seasons come down to a play or two, this can happen.

When it does, you look for the best ways to get stronger and try to do that. Rather than reactively blowing things up and starting over.
 

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It’s ok to let the self-indulgent loathing take a break if you want to.

The Eagles have a good and deep team. Their defense is outstanding. They built on a solid core and made pretty much all the correct moves this offseason. The Cowboys did not. We let a handful of good role players go and then whiffed in their replacements. A few key injuries and a few large distractions and it was too much to overcome.

But don’t fool yourself. One questionable officiating call in the ATL game or one more pass defenses in last year’s GB playoff game and the situations with these teams would reverse. In a league where whole seasons come down to a play or two, this can happen.

When it does, you look for the best ways to get stronger and try to do that. Rather than reactively blowing things up and starting over.

Of course you want to call it self loathing.

It's just a pretty simple fact at this point, relative to any discussion about the Cowboys. The Eagles (and to a lesser extent, the Vikings if they had won) overcame key personnel issues to make the SB. The same type of key personnel losses that we have been told by people, including yourself, that make it unfair to properly judge Garrett.

The best part about your post is your last melodramatic line, "Rather than reactively blowing things up and starting over." It's funny in this context because we are talking about an Eagles team that had cap problems and a head coach who when fired two years ago, had stripped the team of key top level talents, and yet two years later, with a new coach, they are in the SB despite other challenges.

Blow it up and start over, indeed.
 

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Jerry aint stupid. He sees whats going on.

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Of course you want to call it self loathing.

It's just a pretty simple fact at this point, relative to any discussion about the Cowboys. The Eagles (and to a lesser extent, the Vikings if they had won) overcame key personnel issues to make the SB. The same type of key personnel losses that we have been told by people, including yourself, that make it unfair to properly judge Garrett.

The best part about your post is your last melodramatic line, "Rather than reactively blowing things up and starting over." It's funny in this context because we are talking about an Eagles team that had cap problems and a head coach who when fired two years ago, had stripped the team of key top level talents, and yet two years later, with a new coach, they are in the SB despite other challenges.

Blow it up and start over, indeed.


I call it what it is. When any other team doing well spawns dozens and dozens of ‘why us’ threads and a majority of posting fans lose all sense of context, it is what it is. Welcome to the NFL, where won-loss records churn from season to season for a variety of reasons. We’ve all seen it at this point. Some of us are just better at dealing with it.

You’re right that the Eagles did a phenomenal job blowing up a terrible team. If that’s what you want for Dallas, knock yourself out. Maybe you’re right that Jerry can pull it off.

Me, I think our chances are better sticking with the workable arrangement we’ve got and addressing the defensive talent deficit. That’s not news to anybody. But I think it’s a more realistic plan given the realities of the organization.

I actually think the posters who believe otherwise are the deluded homers who haven’t been paying attention.
 

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Philly didn't blow anything up. They brought in a smart coaching staff that was able to adapt almost immediately what they had on hand and then made smart decisions in their first full offseason.

They hired a legit coaching staff. If the Cowboys did that, they'd get better results, even with what you think is a flawed roster.
 

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Everything said about Garrett can also be applied to Landry. During that 20 season streak of consecutive winning sesons they only won 2 league championships. They really should have won six or seven.

There were some real heartbreakers, the two Packer losses, the two Steeler losses, the 49er Catch game, the last minutes field goal during the Colts Super Bowl 5 game, etc.

Go back and looknat the league championship games. Every loss was by a TD or less, ever win was by double no digits

Cowboy teams have been great but they have never been lucky.
 

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Tonight was rough for Garrett supporters.

Every Garrett excuse was made laughable tonight.

Can’t win without your best player. Whoops.

Can’t win without your LT. Whoops.

Can’t win without your best LB. Whoops.

Takes time to properly build a legit SB contender. Whoops.

Wait, there ARE Garrett supporters? I thought that, while this board my be 50/50 on Dak or Dez, that EVERYONE was ready for The Clapper to go. Learn something new everyday.
 

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Philly didn't blow anything up. They brought in a smart coaching staff that was able to adapt almost immediately what they had on hand and then made smart decisions in their first full offseason.

They hired a legit coaching staff. If the Cowboys did that, they'd get better results, even with what you think is a flawed roster.

Not sure what definition of ‘blowing up’ you’re using. They changed their staff, their general management, their schemes on both sides of the ball, and their QB, on top of much of their personnel. That’s blowing it up.
 

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Not sure what definition of ‘blowing up’ you’re using. They changed their staff, their general management, their schemes on both sides of the ball, and their QB, on top of much of their personnel. That’s blowing it up.

Blowing up is a tear down the roster, a tanking, where you rip apart the roster and essentially start over with personnel, etc.

The Eagles didn't do that. They didn't blow anything up. Their OL is basically guys they already had. Their DL, other than Jernigan, were guys already on the team. Their two strengths, their lines, were mostly holdovers.
 

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Not sure what definition of ‘blowing up’ you’re using. They changed their staff, their general management, their schemes on both sides of the ball, and their QB, on top of much of their personnel. That’s blowing it up.

The situation does prove that with the right coaching hires, large improvements can be made quickly.

Pretty much the only defense people have for Garrett is that it’s best for the team to have continuity.

The eagles situation, disproves that.
 
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