Video: Troy Aikman on accuracy: You either have it or you don't

[Cowboysfandarin]

Wilson's first 3 season's are very similar to Dak's Dak's rookie year was better than Wilson's but Wilson's 2nd was better than Dak's. Year 3 are about the same as is.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/W/WilsRu00.htm

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PresDa01.htm

People were saying the same thing about Wilson. "Keep him in the pocket". "He can't make all the throws". "That Superbowl caliber defense and running game are carrying him", "He's got the best o-line in the game protecting him". "He's a bus driver". "His ceiling is not that high, that's why he was drafted in the mid rounds". "But they play well enough to keep their team in the game".

Wilson was 1 year older in his rookie season than Dak was his rookie season. Wilson has played 7season's to Dak's 3 since we're now in week 17.

You think Wilson has played under a much better coaching staff? Develop players? A staff that can game plan and adjust during games? Call winning plays?

I'm not this big Dak defender and I did say in my post they are two different QB's and Russell Wilson is obviously the better QB as we speak. But their first 3 season's as a QB, not overall team are very similar stat and perception wise in the media.

Kellen Moore is coaching up Dak Prescott and the rest of our QB's? What was so great about his pocket presence? Scott Linehan Did good work with Daunte Culpepper's development about 15 years ago and worked with Matt Stafford but really where is he this great guru at developing QB's? Culpepper was the 11th overall pick and Stafford was the 1st overall. Dak was in the 4th round.

I know we had Romo when we went with Linehan but we need somebody else to help develop Dak, his pocket presence, mechanics, understanding of circumstances. The overall skill set. If this was the start of last season nobody would have questioned Dak's talent and ability to lead this team. There was reason for that.

I don''t nor never have viewed Russell Wilson as an Elite QB. To me, he might even be slightly below average. And Dak? Dak is not even at his level. Dak is a backup QB. Period. He just does not have the raw skills.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Im with Troy on this, you can either throw the ball or you cannot. If If's and But's were Candy and Nuts, "We would all have a very Merry Christmas". Ty and Happy New Year as well!

Or it is that you can improve accuracy, but it won't turn an innaccurate quarterback into Tom Brady. It is that natural talent, often times is leaps and bounds greater than what you can gain from self improvement. If Quarterbacks could train to become more accurate in a way that matters, then why don't all backup quarterbacks and rookie quarterbacks get better and become Tom Bradys?

 

[atlantacowboy]

You guys are getting too caught up in Stats. The "check down" era of NFL offense has inflated the completion %'s to levels so absurd that they should just throw the stat out b/c it means nothing. Brandon Weeden was completing over 70% of his throws in Dallas when he got benched. Aikman never had a checkdown option b/c that just not how offense was played in that era. Staubach and Bradshaw played in an era when DBs could mug a WR. The rules favored the defense. This is why the only stat that matters when comparing QB's of different eras is super bowls or championships.

 

[AKATheRake]

I don''t nor never have viewed Russell Wilson as an Elite QB. To me, he might even be slightly below average. And Dak? Dak is not even at his level. Dak is a backup QB. Period. He just does not have the raw skills.

Did you see Russell Wilson play yesterday? He outplayed Mahomes who was excellent yesterday. Russell Wilson is average to below average? He's good.

 

[Cowboysfandarin]

You guys are getting too caught up in Stats. The "check down" era of NFL offense has inflated the completion %'s to levels so absurd that they should just throw the stat out b/c it means nothing. Brandon Weeden was completing over 70% of his throws in Dallas when he got benched. Aikman never had a checkdown option b/c that just not how offense was played in that era. Staubach and Bradshaw played in an era when DBs could mug a WR. The rules favored the defense. This is why the only stat that matters when comparing QB's of different eras is super bowls or championships.

THIS is spot on!!!! That is why I always say after watching 40 years of NFL football, you just KNOW when it's right. You get it. Stats are crap anymore. People isolate stats to fit an agenda. Dak checks down to Zeke and Zeke masterfully gains yards, padding Dak's numbers. He looks great in a few stats on paper, BUT TRY ACTUALLY WATCHING HIM ON THE FIELD! LOL. We all know what we see and "feel." Dak just does not have it, no matter what stat you cherry pick to isolate.

 

[Mobinvans]

Dak is everything you would expect from a 4th round quarterback...

Highly inconsistent and not very accurate

 

[atlantacowboy]

Did you see Russell Wilson play yesterday? He outplayed Mahomes who was excellent yesterday. Russell Wilson is average to below average? He's good.

Wilson is having a hell of a year and he's doing it with JAGS at rb. He's does not have Mahomes arm talent, but he's very smart and good enough to win a super bowl as he's already proven.

 

[robjay04]

This take by Aikman is pretty weak.

You can improve on accuracy in this league. Ask Romo how much his accuracy improved as he got older.

 

[Ddisco22]

I think Dak did help take us to the playoffs in 2016. In 2018, I feel that instead of the quarterback carrying the team to the playoffs, as is often the case around the NFL, Zeek, Coop and the D are carrying the quarterback to the playoffs. And that is the POV of the opposing side from yours, that we are going to the playoffs not because of Dak but despite of him. And I'm not saying that Dak hasn't had his moments this season, but even with those it feels like despite of for me.

I can see that

 

[BleedinBlue]

Did you see Russell Wilson play yesterday? He outplayed Mahomes who was excellent yesterday. Russell Wilson is average to below average? He's good.

I also saw Wilson pass for 70 yards against the Vikes in a game he started and finished. The Hawks needed that game way more than the Cheifs and they were at home , one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. So I don't put much stock in them beating the Cheifs whom have a bad defense as an indicator of how they will play the wild card game in Dallas. The last 3 weeks of the season have proved anyone can beat anyone. Bring them on...

 

[AKATheRake]

Wilson is having a hell of a year and he's doing it with JAGS at rb. He's does not have Mahomes arm talent, but he's very smart and good enough to win a super bowl as he's already proven.

Exactly!

 

[AKATheRake]

I also saw Wilson pass for 70 yards against the Vikes in a game he started and finished. The Hawks needed that game way more than the Cheifs and they were at home , one of the toughest places to play in the NFL. So I don't put much stock in them beating the Cheifs whom have a bad defense as an indicator of how they will play the wild card game in Dallas. The last 3 weeks of the season have proved anyone can beat anyone. Bring them on...

You're right. But what stood out was those those Wilson made at the end of the game to seal it. The point is the fan base has to realize how tough this game is and the QB position in general. Give Dak some better developmental coaches and we will see better results.

 

[tyke1doe]

You guys are getting too caught up in Stats. The "check down" era of NFL offense has inflated the completion %'s to levels so absurd that they should just throw the stat out b/c it means nothing. Brandon Weeden was completing over 70% of his throws in Dallas when he got benched. Aikman never had a checkdown option b/c that just not how offense was played in that era. Staubach and Bradshaw played in an era when DBs could mug a WR. The rules favored the defense. This is why the only stat that matters when comparing QB's of different eras is super bowls or championships.

This is exactly what I was about to say.

 

[rags747]

Why shouldn't we make a play for a Mahomes or a Mayfield in the draft? I want a superstar, not a truck driver. Don't get the fans who are totally content with a truck driver qb when the freaking Brownies of all teams now have a superstar qb and we are content having an appliance at the position. QB's are supposed to be Ferrari's not Toyota's, we have a Tercell...

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

Most NFL quarterbacks throw mostly shorter passes, the days of Daryle Lamonica chunking the ball 40 yards 20 times a game is over. Does Dak throw a bit more shorter passes than some? Sure, but that is a relative number, and the plan is to "feed Zeke", so whoever is the quarterback, he's not going to have a ton of deep throws with the Cowboys. If Dak can hit a few more of the shorter routes, where receivers are open, the offense will be better. Again, I don't see he needs to get a ton better, just some better...

Alot of truth there. But this is also where you want an accurate quarterback, in case that the defense decides to sell out on Zeek, then the Quarterback needs to make them pay for it. With Troy you had that. With Dak, defenses are literally daring him to throw it.

 

[tyke1doe]

You're right. But what stood out was those those Wilson made at the end of the game to seal it. The point is the fan base has to realize how tough this game is and the QB position in general. Give Dak some better developmental coaches and we will see better results.

I'm just curious how another coach is going to teach Dak to pull the trigger and throw the ball to open receivers?

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

You don't know what you're talking about. Go away.

Attacking the person instead of the argument they make, another fallacy and no-no in debate.

 

[tyke1doe]

Alot of truth there. But this is also where you want an accurate quarterback, in case that the defense decides to sell out on Zeek, then the Quarterback needs to make them pay for it. With Troy you had that. With Dak, defenses are literally daring him to throw it.

The sad part of this is that we could have seen a repeat of the 2016 team. When teams didn't know much about Dak, he was completing downfield passes. They couldn't sack the line because we'd make them pay.
Teams don't fear Dak so they play the run.
We should be killing teams if Dak would simply pull the trigger and deliver the ball accurately, especially with this defense.
I fear we're going to waste another opportunity. We have the defense. We have the running game. We have an elite receiver and even a rookie who has shown he can get open deep.
We just don't have the quarterback who can take advantage of it.

 

[AKATheRake]

I'm just curious how another coach is going to teach Dak to pull the trigger and throw the ball to open receivers?

Well, that's 1 thing. But he's not moving around in the pocket when he's holding the ball either. That's an even bigger problem and he's not realizing that.

A QB coach can help with all of that. He's got Kellen Moore and Linehan is not exactly Mr. QB whisperer himself.

If you look at Dak his 1st year he was getting that ball out and moving around. His 2nd season too but Zeke missed games and Dez had no connection whatsoever with Dak. Also Dez dropped off big time talent wise other than the red zone.

We need a TE threat and a guy who can get up in the red zone and it would help Dak immensely. Gallup may be becoming that.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

That's one game first of all. Second, you don't even get that you don't get it. Keep defending your fellow trolls.

I don't get that I dont get "It". Coming from the guy who can't even extrapolate above just what the "It" is that I fail to comprehend. Yup I don't get "It" since I have no clue what "It" you are even talking about.