Woodson on Dak’s Cowboys Contract: 'Pay the Man'

[nate dizzle]

It doesn't when you're talking about the amount of money a starter is going to make, it does matter in the development process, because it's obvious you're believed to have more issues than a guy who's drafted in the 1st, who's supposed to be more ready. Don't be naive

Good lord man you are making this way more difficult than it needs to be.

Once you get paid like a top 10 QB, which he will be, you better perform like a top 10 QB. NOBODY will care anymore about your draft status. NOBODY will make that excuse for you anymore, whether you're a 1st, 4th, 7th or undrafted rookie. When you enter the echelon of elite paychecks, you better live up to it.

If you think he's criticized now? Wait, JUST WAIT until he gets that big payday to see how much more intense the scrutiny will be. The only time you will hear his draft status mentioned going forward is going to be to say either:

1.) Wow the Cowboys really struck gold in the 4th round, if he succeeds

or

2.) What a colossal mistake it was for them to sign a flawed, 4th round project to such a huge deal, if he doesn't.

There will be no more "well, he's really good for a 4th rounder" nonsense.

 

[G2]

I liked Romo and he was fun to watch, but it's refreshing not having your heart smashed in an important game. Thrown away but some ill advised game ending INT. Also, Romo hurt the team missing games from injuries. It's not a personal attack on him, but one of the things I like about Prescott is that he can struggle, stick with it and finish. He had a very good game his 1st playoff game.
I also don't think Prescott will hold the franchise hostage until he gets a enormous salary like some we've seen in the past.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You can argue all day long about intangibles and leadership and all the rest. All of those things are important and I agree that Dak has a lot of those qualities but you are never going to get past the singular issue with Dak. Dak has to be able to pass the ball more accurately. He has to be able to get rid of the ball and learn to throw into windows and he has to be able to do that quicker. The problem is not the OL IMO. Dak, right now, gets more time a lot of the time, then do a lot of other QBs in the NFL. He has to be able to do this better or none of the rest matters.

Now, this could be coaching or it could be Dak's inabilities, I don't know yet but I do know that none of the rest matters unless you can get that part of his game fixed.

JMO

 

[Direwolf63]

So where did it say he's going to be paid some huge dollar amount? I see a bunch of guessing and tempted tea leave readings.

"He's going to get his extraordinary contract". Doesn't sound like chump change to me.

Dak needs to be paid like the bus driver that he is and not like an elite franchise QB, which he is not.

He should be paid around $17M-$22M a year with about $50M guaranteed and structured in a way that the team can get out of it in 2 or 3 years that won't kill the salary cap.

If he gets $27M-$30M+ a year with $80M-$100M+ a year, this franchise will be hamstrung for a decade.

 

[Nexx]

All qbs have warts even the great ones

great ones have accuracy issues? great ones have pocket awareness issues? great ones have trouble reading defenses? unfortunately for Dak he has all the intangibles but lacks much of mental and physical.

 

[BoysForLife]

Nick Foles....Jesus. And this is my point about you guys. Everyone wants to replace everyone and when you ask them with who you bring up a guy who’s only been able to play in Andy Reid or Peterson’s system aside from a fluke Chip Kelly year.

If you have faith in this playbook and coaching staff to get the best out of Foles then go ahead. But even Peterson struggles most games this season.”Your trash is better than mine”.

LOL. Do you even read your comments, before you click "post reply"?

Here's basically what you said in a nutshell:

"Foles? He sucks, he's a system product. In the last 5 years, he's only been able to succeed with 3 different coaches."

They keep trying to get rid of Foles because allegedly he isn't any good. And every time they circle back to him, he balls out like crazy. The system isn't even built around him. And he still produces.

Heck yeah, I want that guy. I'm sure we'll disagree but if we had Nick Foles under center this year, we'd be the #1 seed heading into the playoffs.

 

[ShortRound]

He’s not accurate but he’s a leader, like a coach maybe?

 

[Dre11]

Did you read the article?

Or just the sample of quotes I posted?

The article specifically mentions the top salary ranges of guys like Garappolo etc in the $140 million range and says based on that, Jones "understands" that he has no choice but to pay Dak top dollar.

If Top Dollar is $30 million a year, and Jones understands he has to pay Dak and "extraordinary" top dollar contract, then that isn't tea leaves.

Did Jones say he was paying Dak 30 million a year? Or 140 million? No , he gave no amount. Also, if that's the going rate for a starter like Dak, then what's the issue, you'd pay that regardless of who you bring in. The salary cap increases every year salaries increases every year, what's the issue?

 

[BoysForLife]

Did Jones say he was paying Dak 30 million a year? Or 140 million? No , he gave no amount. Also, if that's the going rate for a starter like Dak, then what's the issue, you'd pay that regardless of who you bring in. The salary cap increases every year salaries increases every year, what's the issue?

That's not the going rate for a starter who leads the 24th ranked passing attack.
You could get that from just about any NFL guy, provided he can fog a mirror.

 

[Dre11]

Good lord man you are making this way more difficult than it needs to be.

Once you get paid like a top 10 QB, which he will be, you better perform like a top 10 QB. NOBODY will care anymore about your draft status. NOBODY will make that excuse for you anymore, whether you're a 1st, 4th, 7th or undrafted rookie. When you enter the echelon of elite paychecks, you better live up to it.

If you think he's criticized now? Wait, JUST WAIT until he gets that big payday to see how much more intense the scrutiny will be. The only time you will hear his draft status mentioned going forward is going to be to say either:

1.) Wow the Cowboys really struck gold in the 4th round, if he succeeds

or

2.) What a colossal mistake it was for them to sign a flawed, 4th round project to such a huge deal, if he doesn't.

There will be no more "well, he's really good for a 4th rounder" nonsense.

No, you're talking stupid, he is what he is, no amount of money changes that, h's going to learn at the rate as most qbs drafted in his range.

 

[nate dizzle]

"He's going to get his extraordinary contract". Doesn't sound like chump change to me.

Dak needs to be paid like the bus driver that he is and not like an elite franchise QB, which he is not.

He should be paid around $17M-$22M a year with about $50M guaranteed and structured in a way that the team can get out of it in 2 or 3 years that won't kill the salary cap.

If he gets $27M-$30M a year with $80M-$100M a year, this franchise will be hamstrung for a decade.

It will likely look very much like Jimmy G's contract. Front loaded with cap saving options to back out after year 3.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/9/1...-san-francisco-49ers-contract-salary-cap-hits

 

[Dre11]

"He's going to get his extraordinary contract". Doesn't sound like chump change to me.

Dak needs to be paid like the bus driver that he is and not like an elite franchise QB, which he is not.

He should be paid around $17M-$22M a year with about $50M guaranteed and structured in a way that the team can get out of it in 2 or 3 years that won't kill the salary cap.

If he gets $27M-$30M+ a year with $80M-$100M+ a year, this franchise will be hamstrung for a decade.

What does it sound like? The lowest starting qb salary is the extradinary, unless it's a rookie contract. Again, you're paying that to any qb. He's a starter, he should be paid like one.

 

[Runwildboys]

https://www.star-telegram.com/sports/nfl/dallas-cowboys/article203454764.html

HEre are some of the key takeaway quotes from this article:

Dallas Cowboys quarterback Dak Prescott is going to get paid.

That’s the word from owner Jerry Jones.

It will happen sometime in the next two years. And given the $137 million contract recently given to San Francisco 49ers quarterback Jimmy Garappolo and the expected deals of more than $30 million a year for free agent Kirk Cousins and Atlanta Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan, Jones understands has no choice but to pay Prescott top dollar.

*AND*

“We need to take advantage of structuring and putting this team together at the contract level that we’ve got right here,” Jones said. “He’s going to get his extraordinary contract. But while we can put the team together and take advantage when he is on this contract right now, we’ve got to be real astute to maximize that advantage.

*AND*

That’s certainly what the offensive changes during the off-season have been about _ to make the offense more “Dak-friendly”, per Jones.

Jones said the Cowboys would like to use Prescott’s legs as a weapon a little more. He doesn’t mean more running back, but rather using more of the college style plays that allow him to run and pass.

"Some of the college stuff needs to be thought about here. That's a big part of the conversation that's going on [among the staff]."


How comforting to know that the owner of the team has already decided that Dak is going to get an "extraordinary" contract. And that to help him get that contract, the mission is to basically turn the Cowboys into a glorified college style offensive team.

Good grief. I honestly don't know what else to say, other than good grief. I'm halfway between laughter and tears. I'm a Cowboys fan until I die but these days, I often wonder if it's even worth it. When I see the figure head on our team talking about installing a college style offense and paying a guy that is the leader on the 24th ranked passing attack in the league, I die a little inside.

Maybe you can take comfort in the knowledge that this is Jerry we're quoting.

 

[BoysForLife]

Maybe you can take comfort in the knowledge that this is Jerry we're quoting.

I'm just hoping he was still a little tipsy from the night before.....

 

[Praxit]

..no complaints here. Get Dak a better OC, where they can use his skill set better. Draft a couple of OL.. Full speed ahead.

 

[Dre11]

great ones have accuracy issues? great ones have pocket awareness issues? great ones have trouble reading defenses? unfortunately for Dak he has all the intangibles but lacks much of mental and physical.

Let them get hit, they all have issues.

 

[nate dizzle]

No, you're talking stupid, he is what he is, no amount of money changes that, h's going to learn at the rate as most qbs drafted in his range.

I didn't say his learning rate would change. Not once. Are you being willfully obtuse?

Show of hands, anyone else out there having trouble understanding that once Dak gets a contract that pays him like a top QB then the expectation will become that he plays like one, regardless of where he was drafted? Anyone else struggling with that?

 

[Direwolf63]

It will likely look very much like Jimmy G's contract. Front loaded with cap saving options to back out after year 3.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/2/9/1...-san-francisco-49ers-contract-salary-cap-hits

The structure makes sense, but the numbers are still too high given Dak's limited ability. But the team will be OK if his contract is structure similar to this.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Did Jones say he was paying Dak 30 million a year? Or 140 million? No , he gave no amount. Also, if that's the going rate for a starter like Dak, then what's the issue, you'd pay that regardless of who you bring in. The salary cap increases every year salaries increases every year, what's the issue?

Seriously?

 

[Dre11]

That's not the going rate for a starter who leads the 24th ranked passing attack.
You could get that from just about any NFL guy, provided he can fog a mirror.

Lol...so you think the ranked passing attack is the only measure for a qb? Does the qb leads a team that wins? Does the qb lead and command respect from his players?