Video: Troy Aikman on accuracy: You either have it or you don't

[CouchCoach]

I've tried, but my request keeps coming back marked "Insufficient Postage".....That thing must be huge!

I use mine as a tire swing when Melon's not here.

 

[CouchCoach]

So would you rather have an athletic quarterback who never wins a Super Bowl or a limited athletic quarterback who is hard working, determined and competitive and wins Super Bowls?

How long do I have to answer this?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

You can't explain to the Dakkettes. In their minds, Dak is wwwwaaayyyy more accurate than Troy Aikman. It's the height of absurdity, but when you MUST convince yourself of the Dakkuracy, well, this is the nonsensical, illogical position you're forced to take.

Well, to be fair, I'm not certain how old Nightman is or if he was a Cowboy Fan, watching the games back when Troy was a Rookie. I mean, if you didn't actually see that team, it's hard to understand just how bad it was. They were terrible. You look at the numbers and you say to yourself, I don't get it. Dak's numbers compare very favorably but what you can't understand, unless you were watching is how much better this team is then that one in 89. Also, just how different the game was. Passing game then was for real. You didn't do the same stuff then as now. You didn't run the same routes and you didn't have the relative freedom to just not worry about getting hit. In those days, WRs just didn't run certain routes and QBs, they got hit on every play and not just pushed to the ground like you see today. They got hit.

It's just different now. I honestly hate comparing players from different eras. It's not fair to the players.

 

[Nightman]

Problem is, where it counts, Troy has them all beat. All of those guys were way more athletic but none of them could do what Troy did. None of them won any championships and that's the rub.

That is a red herring

 

[Nightman]

You can't explain to the Dakkettes. In their minds, Dak is wwwwaaayyyy more accurate than Troy Aikman. It's the height of absurdity, but when you MUST convince yourself of the Dakkuracy, well, this is the nonsensical, illogical position you're forced to take.

Numbers don't lie...... only you

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Brady is an overachieving system QB that has milked the absolute most out of his limited athletic ability..... more than any QB ever with hard work and pure determination and competitive spirit

I agree but that shows you something. Athletic ability is not the overriding factor in the position. BTW, all QBs are system QBs. Brady is no different then any other QB. The term, "System QB" is something somebody made up. There is really no such thing, to be honest. All QBs fit certain types of Offenses. They are all System QBs.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

That is a red herring

OK, I'm listening. But before we go any further, are old enough to have watched Troy Aikman play in his Rookie year?

 

[CouchCoach]

Well, to be fair, I'm not certain how old Nightman is or if he was a Cowboy Fan, watching the games back when Troy was a Rookie. I mean, if you didn't actually see that team, it's hard to understand just how bad it was. They were terrible. You look at the numbers and you say to yourself, I don't get it. Dak's numbers compare very favorably but what you can't understand, unless you were watching is how much better this team is then that one in 89. Also, just how different the game was. Passing game then was for real. You didn't do the same stuff then as now. You didn't run the same routes and you didn't have the relative freedom to just not worry about getting hit. In those days, WRs just didn't run certain routes and QBs, they got hit on every play and not just pushed to the ground like you see today. They got hit.

It's just different now. I honestly hate comparing players from different eras. It's not fair to the players.

Remember the PHL game with the 11 sacks? The only reason it topped off at 11 was because that one damaged his shoulder with a body slam. Could have reached the high teens.

And some need to remember, Jimmy didn't even want to win that 1 game, he was after picks.

 

[Nightman]

Well, to be fair, I'm not certain how old Nightman is or if he was a Cowboy Fan, watching the games back when Troy was a Rookie. I mean, if you didn't actually see that team, it's hard to understand just how bad it was. They were terrible. You look at the numbers and you say to yourself, I don't get it. Dak's numbers compare very favorably but what you can't understand, unless you were watching is how much better this team is then that one in 89. Also, just how different the game was. Passing game then was for real. You didn't do the same stuff then as now. You didn't run the same routes and you didn't have the relative freedom to just not worry about getting hit. In those days, WRs just didn't run certain routes and QBs, they got hit on every play and not just pushed to the ground like you see today. They got hit.

It's just different now. I honestly hate comparing players from different eras. It's not fair to the players.

those are all cop outs..... Troy was never that great ...... he was on a great team that was led by Emmitt's running and a great D

Aikman never had elite QB numbers

 

[Nightman]

OK, I'm listening. But before we go any further, are old enough to have watched Troy Aikman play in his Rookie year?

I have watched more Cowboys than you have I'm sure.... I am just honest about the 90s

 

[Vtwin]

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Dak is wayyyy more accurate....................66% to 61%

Did you seriously just write that Dak is more accurate than Aikman while laughing at the proposition that he isn't?

 

[Nightman]

Did you seriously just write that Dak is more accurate than Aikman while laughing at the proposition that he isn't?

By a long shot.....open your eyes

 

[Vtwin]

By a long shot.....open your eyes

Lol.

Good luck with that.

Lol

 

[Kaiser]

what you can't understand, unless you were watching is how much better this team is then that one in 89. Also, just how different the game was.

Totally agree. Another factor is that Dallas was constantly churning the roster to evaluate guys on the fly. If you google the roster for the 1989 team you will names like Bernard Ford and Junior Tautalatasi that not only were scrubs, they were scrubs that didn't know the playbook when they were on the field.

 

[Nightman]

Lol.

Good luck with that.

Lol

Simple math is hard for you I see

 

[Melonfeud]

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LMAO

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[tyke1doe]

How long do I have to answer this?

You don't have to answer anything. You can do as Dionne Warwick said, "Walk on by."

 

[Nightman]

Totally agree. Another factor is that Dallas was constantly churning the roster to evaluate guys on the fly. If you google the roster for the 1989 team you will names like Bernard Ford and Junior Tautalatasi that not only were scrubs, they were scrubs that didn't know the playbook when they were on the field.

I see Michael Irvin, H Walker, Kelvin Martin

then Emmitt Smith, Jay Novacek, AHarper and Moose

lack of talent is another excuse......just like the game is different excuse

 

[Nightman]

OK, I'm listening. But before we go any further, are old enough to have watched Troy Aikman play in his Rookie year?

Don't patronize me

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Remember the PHL game with the 11 sacks? The only reason it topped off at 11 was because that one damaged his shoulder with a body slam. Could have reached the high teens.

And some need to remember, Jimmy didn't even want to win that 1 game, he was after picks.

Yeah, too many younger fans don't really understand just how much the game has changed. I mean, I remember that Cardinals game. Troy took that shot to the chin, after having stood in and making the throw to Dixon for the TD late in that game. Troy was out cold, never even saw the play finish. Rewatch that hit and in todays game, it's a penalty and a suspension. Today, you would never see that, head to head, leading with the helmet and right on the Chin. Thats games and a big, big fine right there. But also notice, Troy knows he's going to get hit but he steps up, lets that ball go and it's on a line to Dixon, on the money and delivered exactly the way you want that throw to be thrown. The throw makes the TD because Dixon never breaks stride and he is able to take it to the house and it's in the middle of the field. Everything about that play is exactly the part of the game Dak struggles with.

For me it's not personal, I like Dak. But you gotta be honest with things.