Video: Fair and balanced analysis of Dak Prescott

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I don't understand what people are talking about when they are saying Dak's flaws are easily worked on.

Most QBs with high upside have issues with reading the field and speed of the game. Dak's issues are footwork and ball placement/accuracy. He's going into his 4th year, this stuff is not easily fixed and will most likely always plague Dak.
 

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A lot things are atypical when you have a bad back lol.

That kind of force/torque involved in a tackle are typical to healthy players.

If you played football or rugby you are conditioned for collision every play.

Romo did not have a healthy back....typical force/torque just a bad back.

Most QBs would have had a broken back on that play. Much like David Carr who had a similar one when he played.

"A bad back" due to disc issues does not make bones break easier.
 

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Most QBs would have had a broken back on that play. Much like David Carr who had a similar one when he played.

"A bad back" due to disc issues does not make bones break easier.
Brother are you trolling me... Seriously :huh::thumbup:

Successive injuries to the Spinal Operation does make it more likely.

Please read these articles carefully. When Romo went down I looked for every silver lining for his return. I even favored Romo starting regardless of Dak's success. I thought he deserved to go out like Irvin or Troy, but Dak's team leadership skills and his friendship with Zeke made it impossible and detrimental if Romo failed got injured again.

He was a 36 year old QB with 2 previous back injuries within past 3 seasons. Tony couldn't take a regular NFL hit... Neither could Troy at the end (LaVar Arrington)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...las-cowboys-qb-tony-romos-latest-back-injury/


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-why-serious-treatment-plan-long-term-effects
 

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Brother are you trolling me... Seriously :huh::thumbup:

Successive injuries to the Spinal Operation does make it more likely.

Please read these articles carefully. When Romo went down I looked for every silver lining for his return. I even favored Romo starting regardless of Dak's success. I thought he deserved to go out like Irvin or Troy, but Dak's team leadership skills and his friendship with Zeke made it impossible and detrimental if Romo failed got injured again.

He was a 36 year old QB with 2 previous back injuries within past 3 seasons. Tony couldn't take a regular NFL hit... Neither could Troy at the end (LaVar Arrington)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...las-cowboys-qb-tony-romos-latest-back-injury/


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-why-serious-treatment-plan-long-term-effects

Trolling? Everything I said was accurate. Did you read the articles carefully? The first did not support your position, and the 2nd actually supported what I said.

If you want to argue Romo's core strength was weaker because of dealing with previous injuries, you could, but you'd be wrong. The opposite is in fact true. He had to work his core a lot more because of those injuries and as a result it may have been stronger than at any point in his career.

You argument, medically speaking, is just false. If you were talking about soft tissue or something, you'd have a case. Bones are different.

And again, not a regular NFL tackle...try reading the ESPN article again.
 

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I don't understand what people are talking about when they are saying Dak's flaws are easily worked on.

Most QBs with high upside have issues with reading the field and speed of the game. Dak's issues are footwork and ball placement/accuracy. He's going into his 4th year, this stuff is not easily fixed and will most likely always plague Dak.

The video clearly stated that Dak has all areas covered, but his deep ball accuracy. NOT ACCURACY, but deep ball accuracy "into man coverage".

He also says that is very correctable with repetition.

He also said all the great things Dak does such as read defenses and make the right reads. Which flies in the face of what guys like you have said.

The video was basically how good of a QB he is and there is ONE thing he needs to work on.

Of course the ONE thing is all you talk about.

Now we have heard in TC that his deep ball accuracy has improved. And low and behold, Kitna was saying its from the repetition he is getting with it.

Which AGAIN...…...flies in the face of what you just said.
 

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Brother are you trolling me... Seriously :huh::thumbup:

Successive injuries to the Spinal Operation does make it more likely.

Please read these articles carefully. When Romo went down I looked for every silver lining for his return. I even favored Romo starting regardless of Dak's success. I thought he deserved to go out like Irvin or Troy, but Dak's team leadership skills and his friendship with Zeke made it impossible and detrimental if Romo failed got injured again.

He was a 36 year old QB with 2 previous back injuries within past 3 seasons. Tony couldn't take a regular NFL hit... Neither could Troy at the end (LaVar Arrington)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucel...las-cowboys-qb-tony-romos-latest-back-injury/


https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-why-serious-treatment-plan-long-term-effects

It was Dak's play that won him the job. And yes his leadership.

Do you realize that under Dak the team won 11 games in a row? Are you really going to bench Dak? That would have been crazy.

Now Dak is going into his 4th year and he has all the experience and he is ready to take the next step. You don't get there if you are riding the bench. We have a chance NOW to do something special because Dak has been through the growing pains of the last two years.
 

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I don't understand what people are talking about when they are saying Dak's flaws are easily worked on.

Most QBs with high upside have issues with reading the field and speed of the game. Dak's issues are footwork and ball placement/accuracy. He's going into his 4th year, this stuff is not easily fixed and will most likely always plague Dak.

LOL...….Its not a "flaw" buddy. Its just something that at the moment he doesn't do as well as all the rest of the things. The more they throw deep, the more comfortable Dak gets with his receivers, the more repetitions they do, It will get better.

You see it all the time in the NBA. Even guys that cant shoot well or shoot the 3 in college work on it and become good in the pro's.

Not sure why you cant understand these simple concepts. Or maybe you don't want to understand.
 

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Trolling? Everything I said was accurate. Did you read the articles carefully? The first did not support your position, and the 2nd actually supported what I said.

If you want to argue Romo's core strength was weaker because of dealing with previous injuries, you could, but you'd be wrong. The opposite is in fact true. He had to work his core a lot more because of those injuries and as a result it may have been stronger than at any point in his career.

You argument, medically speaking, is just false. If you were talking about soft tissue or something, you'd have a case. Bones are different.

And again, not a regular NFL tackle...try reading the ESPN article again.

I remember this laughable position when the injury happened. No matter what any of you medical experts say, the older you get the more you are prone to injury and the longer it takes to heal. The body gets weaker. And since the body all works together from a strength point of view, everything gets weaker.

Not to mention Romo's ability to avoid hits and his reaction time gets slower. You are also not as flexible as you once were.
 

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The video clearly stated that Dak has all areas covered, but his deep ball accuracy. NOT ACCURACY, but deep ball accuracy "into man coverage".

He also says that is very correctable with repetition.

He also said all the great things Dak does such as read defenses and make the right reads. Which flies in the face of what guys like you have said.

The video was basically how good of a QB he is and there is ONE thing he needs to work on.

Of course the ONE thing is all you talk about.

Now we have heard in TC that his deep ball accuracy has improved. And low and behold, Kitna was saying its from the repetition he is getting with it.

Which AGAIN...…...flies in the face of what you just said.

I don't care what the video said, I don't like the guy in the video and he has demonstrated in the past he doesn't review film properly - which is why every 4 months he has to make an update video saying he was wrong. I'm addressing the people in this thread saying Dak's problems can be coached and fixed.

If I was addressing the video, I would have quoted what he said - I did that in the comments under his video - you know, like when he suggested Dak always sees the open guy - which is absolute bull.

Want to try again?
 

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I remember this laughable position when the injury happened. No matter what any of you medical experts say, the older you get the more you are prone to injury and the longer it takes to heal. The body gets weaker. And since the body all works together from a strength point of view, everything gets weaker.

Not to mention Romo's ability to avoid hits and his reaction time gets slower. You are also not as flexible as you once were.

Your bones don't get brittle at 37 years old unless you have a serious medical condition.

You may lose speed, a significant injury may linger throughout your career - but you don't become more "prone" to bone breaks in your late 30s.
 

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I don't understand what people are talking about when they are saying Dak's flaws are easily worked on.

Most QBs with high upside have issues with reading the field and speed of the game. Dak's issues are footwork and ball placement/accuracy. He's going into his 4th year, this stuff is not easily fixed and will most likely always plague Dak.
Let’s see how hard he works on it. I remember when Romo got his contract he spent a whole offseason studying brady and his throwing mechanics.
 

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Let’s see how hard he works on it. I remember when Romo got his contract he spent a whole offseason studying brady and his throwing mechanics.

Romo didn't have the footwork issues Dak had - Romo's biggest problem, which even Parcell's commented on before Romo ever started, was that he was an erratic decision maker. If this was Dak's problem, I'd actually have far more optimism.

I'm not denying Romo experimented with his throwing mechanics - but he could make all the throws on the field. The only QB I have ever seen make a drastic change in fundamentals from when he entered the league to the day he started was Aaron Rodgers.

Development like this is rare.

 

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Romo didn't have the footwork issues Dak had - Romo's biggest problem, which even Parcell's commented on before Romo ever started, was that he was an erratic decision maker. If this was Dak's problem, I'd actually have far more optimism.

I'm not denying Romo experimented with his throwing mechanics - but he could make all the throws on the field. The only QB I have ever seen make a drastic change in fundamentals from when he entered the league to the day he started was Aaron Rodgers.

Development like this is rare.


I was just talking to the fact of how hard Romo worked to be a better QB. He knows the game and how to read defenses so well. Makes him a great commentator knowing the game as well as he does. I know it comes with experience but also hard work.
 

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I don't care what the video said, I don't like the guy in the video and he has demonstrated in the past he doesn't review film properly - which is why every 4 months he has to make an update video saying he was wrong. I'm addressing the people in this thread saying Dak's problems can be coached and fixed.

If I was addressing the video, I would have quoted what he said - I did that in the comments under his video - you know, like when he suggested Dak always sees the open guy - which is absolute bull.

Want to try again?

I think you brought up a great point that in the beginning, he had to apologize for his incorrect analysis a few years ago. Which is basically what you Dak haters have to do. Now we sit here and the ONLY thing you can crow about is some deep ball accuracy.

Now you DONT think he is very good, but you LOVE his analysis if his deep ball accuracy?

The guy is spot on with this analysis.

And AGAIN...…...this guy is NOT saying he always sees the open guy. He is saying that he typically does.

He's not some troll that sees a few incompletions and goes on for years about how the guy isn't accurate. LOL
 

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Your bones don't get brittle at 37 years old unless you have a serious medical condition.

You may lose speed, a significant injury may linger throughout your career - but you don't become more "prone" to bone breaks in your late 30s.

Why do you people keep talking about BONES ONLY?
 

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I think you brought up a great point that in the beginning, he had to apologize for his incorrect analysis a few years ago. Which is basically what you Dak haters have to do. Now we sit here and the ONLY thing you can crow about is some deep ball accuracy.

Now you DONT think he is very good, but you LOVE his analysis if his deep ball accuracy?

The guy is spot on with this analysis.

And AGAIN...…...this guy is NOT saying he always sees the open guy. He is saying that he typically does.

He's not some troll that sees a few incompletions and goes on for years about how the guy isn't accurate. LOL

I don't have to do anything because my analysis of Dak is correct. He has footwork problems, which Dak has AGREED with - Dak specifically stated his feet and his mind aren't always in sync. If you don't have the footwork down, it impacts the rest of your game. This was still apparent in 2018. Not sure how you can deny that, but moving on.

Where did I mention deep ball accuracy? I said he has accuracy and ball placement issues - that's not just deep ball, that's all over the field. So no, I don't agree with him it's just deep ball - it's a problem with every throw. Moving on again.

HE SPECIFICALLY SAYS IF THE GUY IS OPEN DAK WILL FIND HIM! Right within the like 2 minutes in the video. This is, yet again, absolute bull. That is not true, Dak does not see the open guy, he far too often does not see the open guy especially when those underneath throws are covered or the window is too tight to make the throw. He misses those intermediate guys and deep guys

Next!
 

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Why do you people keep talking about BONES ONLY?

We are speaking of Romo - Romo's final injuries were this

- herniated disc
- 2x broken collarbone
- fractured bone in his back

Two of those injuries were simply due the position Romo was in when the tackle happened. His herniated disc would be the only thing moving forward that would have been worrisome. This argument that Romo was getting more bones broken in his mid-30s is due to age is just silly.
 

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I don't have to do anything because my analysis of Dak is correct. He has footwork problems, which Dak has AGREED with - Dak specifically stated his feet and his mind aren't always in sync. If you don't have the footwork down, it impacts the rest of your game. This was still apparent in 2018. Not sure how you can deny that, but moving on.

Where did I mention deep ball accuracy? I said he has accuracy and ball placement issues - that's not just deep ball, that's all over the field. So no, I don't agree with him it's just deep ball - it's a problem with every throw. Moving on again.

HE SPECIFICALLY SAYS IF THE GUY IS OPEN DAK WILL FIND HIM! Right within the like 2 minutes in the video. This is, yet again, absolute bull. That is not true, Dak does not see the open guy, he far too often does not see the open guy especially when those underneath throws are covered or the window is too tight to make the throw. He misses those intermediate guys and deep guys

Next!

So your saying a young QB has things to work on like footwork?

Wow, you are a genius.

I guess your point that Dak isn't perfect is a great one. Thanks for that incredible insight. LOL

Now pay the MAN!!!!
 

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We are speaking of Romo - Romo's final injuries were this

- herniated disc
- 2x broken collarbone
- fractured bone in his back

Two of those injuries were simply due the position Romo was in when the tackle happened. His herniated disc would be the only thing moving forward that would have been worrisome. This argument that Romo was getting more bones broken in his mid-30s is due to age is just silly.

The older you get, the more you are prone to injuries of all sorts. Lose flexibility, lose soft tissue strength, lose quickness, dexterity. All these things lead to more broken bones and other injuries.

Your point about "BONES ONLY" is as dumb as your point that a young Dak Prescott has things to work on.
 
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