News: TF: Cowboys offer to Zeke approaches Gurley deal with a catch

[aikemirv]

While I agree that the offensive line can get most mid tier RB's to throw up some stats (Darren McFadden), there is a difference to the passing game and overall game planning that a player at Zeke's level has on the game that you dont get with a McFadden, Morris type of RB. Sure they can all get the 4ypc. But they won't all have defensive coordinators gameplanning to hold this in check. This has a real impact on the entire game and what your offense can do that doesnt show up on a stat sheet.

As you know there are many complex layers and moving parts to offensive success and a player Zeke's caliber is felt.

This is so lost on many on this board that it makes you just want to not even discuss things. It's like they have never been part of a gameplan in any sport.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Just wait till Cooper wants to get paid. Something tells me it may get just as bad. But Cooper is pretty quiet.

I don't think so Cooper is more Dak than Zeke.. He'll want to get paid accordingly .. But he's in camp and his deal is up after this season..

 

[glimmerman]

Honestly, I think Coop will be the hardest to resign.........coz what we already have invested. His agent will try and leverage it. But I'm content tagging him a couple of times and walk. That would give us 3 and half years of his service, enough to pay for the 1st rounder IMO. Not to mention, it also gives us a couple of years the find his replacement......

Yep and he is watching these WR getting huge money. I don’t think the FO will want to match that much money. He has already turned down the top 5 money.

 

[Praxit]

...lets see if Jerry learned from the past.

 

[Legend]

They are going to pay Zeke more than Gurley. Just dragging it out as long as they can.

 

[HanD]

This is so lost on many on this board that it makes you just want to not even discuss things. It's like they have never been part of a gameplan in any sport.

totally valid but also consider that year dmc ran for over 1000, who his qbs were. there was no threat in the passing game what so ever. dmc avg'ed 4.6 with no qb play at all.

dez played 9 games, romo 4.

dmc was surrounded by weeden, cassel, moore, witten, twill and beasley. not too bad if you ask me...

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Yep and he is watching these WR getting huge money. I don’t think the FO will want to match that much money. He has already turned down the top 5 money.

Another Jerry MISTAKE based on a inept passing game! Then he follows it up by trading for the Coop man and not signing him to a new contract as part of the deal.
Coop got Jerry in a choke-hold as that no 1 pick gives him SUPER leverage ......Between Zeke and Coop I have no idea where there going to find 30 million for Dak????
Anyone??????

 

[aikemirv]

totally valid but also consider that year dmc ran for over 1000, who his qbs were. there was no threat in the passing game what so ever. dmc avg'ed 4.6 with no qb play at all.

And our record was? Not to be smartalic at all but Alfred Morris YPC was the same as Zeke wasn't it. We all saw how our offense stalls when Zeke was off the field last year at any point in the game!

 

[Keithfansince5]

In decline ? LOL

..the dude has led the NFL in rushing 2 out of the last 3 years, (and very likely would have been 3 str8 if not for BS Goodell) ..and he's in decline ?
Makes no sense at all.

To the uninitiated, perhaps. But his stats prove it.



GP ATT YDS AVG TD LNG FD FUM LST

2016

DAL 15 322 1,631 5.1 15 60 91 5 1
2017

DAL 10 242 983 4.1 7 30 55 1 1
2018

DAL 15 304 1,434 4.7 6 41 73 6 1
Career 40 868 4,048 4.7 28 60 219 12 3

So, where is your argument? Mine is starring you in the face. His rookie year was his best year in every category. Looks like a different guy now to me.

 

[Fire407]

Another Jerry MISTAKE based on a inept passing game! Then he follows it up by trading for the Coop man and not signing him to a new contract as part of the deal.
Coop got Jerry in a choke-hold as that no 1 pick gives him SUPER leverage ......Between Zeke and Coop I have no idea where there going to find 30 million for Dak????
Anyone??????

Dak won't sign for $30 million. It's going to be at least $33 million and Jerry will pay it.

 

[HanD]

And our record was?

it was terrible. i would hope dak would be better than those qbs. if not, at least he would avoid another huge mistake.

i'd rather not make zeke the top paid rb. i personally think 1-it sets the wrong message and 2-he needs to have behavioral clauses in his contract. if we tank without him then dak won't deserve what he wants either. i don't want to tank but i don't want to make our qb and rb top paid when they haven't accomplished anything as a team either.

 

[aikemirv]

To the uninitiated, perhaps. But his stats prove it.



GP ATT YDS AVG TD LNG FD FUM LST

2016

DAL 15 322 1,631 5.1 15 60 91 5 1
2017

DAL 10 242 983 4.1 7 30 55 1 1
2018

DAL 15 304 1,434 4.7 6 41 73 6 1
Career 40 868 4,048 4.7 28 60 219 12 3

So, where is your argument? Mine is starring you in the face. His rookie year was his best year in every category. Looks like a different guy now to me.

You left out a small detail of 77 catches for 567.....

 

[glimmerman]

I don't think so Cooper is more Dak than Zeke.. He'll want to get paid accordingly .. But he's in camp and his deal is up after this season..

Afraid he will want more money than we can pay. He will want 100 million.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Therein lies the sword of Damocles for Zeke. If that kind of clause is at stake, will he blink?

OK...... ok, now I know. It's not often you hear Cicero quoted in the common vernacular. You get two snaps and a twist from me on that one Pantone.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

To the uninitiated, perhaps. But his stats prove it.



GP ATT YDS AVG TD LNG FD FUM LST

2016

DAL 15 322 1,631 5.1 15 60 91 5 1
2017

DAL 10 242 983 4.1 7 30 55 1 1
2018

DAL 15 304 1,434 4.7 6 41 73 6 1
Career 40 868 4,048 4.7 28 60 219 12 3

So, where is your argument? Mine is starring you in the face. His rookie year was his best year in every category. Looks like a different guy now to me.

Every running back has his own style, when a top back comes into the league teams haven't played against him nor do they have game film from the NFL on him. After they've seen him a few times the defenses adjust. Barring the offense otherwise improving, not unusual for a running back's stats to drop off a bit, though as in your figures his ypc went up from 4.1 to 4.7 in year 2 to 3.

And imho no Frederick last year made a noticeable impact on run blocking, with Freddy back I wouldn't be surprised to see Zeke stick at the 4.7 or maybe improve a bit.

We'll find out if and when he comes back...

 

[quickccc]

To the uninitiated, perhaps. But his stats prove it.



GP ATT YDS AVG TD LNG FD FUM LST

2016

DAL 15 322 1,631 5.1 15 60 91 5 1
2017

DAL 10 242 983 4.1 7 30 55 1 1
2018

DAL 15 304 1,434 4.7 6 41 73 6 1
Career 40 868 4,048 4.7 28 60 219 12 3

So, where is your argument? Mine is starring you in the face. His rookie year was his best year in every category. Looks like a different guy now to me.

LOL ... he's still lead the entire NFL in rushing 2 out of the last 3 years. But he's in decline if he doesn't have exact rookie stats ?
Hilarious.

 

[Keithfansince5]

You left out a small detail of 77 catches for 567.....

Yeah his 11.3 yard per catch as a rookie was so much better, I didn't want to use that to further my point. He can't help how many times Dak throws to him but when he does get a chance, it is up to him to make the most of it.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Cowboys are close to making him the highest-paid RB, so I don't see that as much of an issue and like Walker just stated, a simple clause killing any guaranteed money if he gets into trouble takes care of the off-field issue. It's like one former GM once said, top players at their position always have value. Just a matter of how much.......

I do agree we are probably better off with each other but to say we're stuck together, I don't see that at all.

I don't agree. I mean, I think that you could have said this in the past but this player and this agent have already shown that they are willing to simply walk away if they don't like what the contract stipulates. How can you trust anything, based on what we've seen this year? I think that all a clause like that does is provide a false sense of security for a short period of time but I don't know that it really provides much more then that.

 

[Keithfansince5]

LOL ... he's still lead the entire NFL in rushing 2 out of the last 3 years. But he's in decline if he doesn't have exact rookie stats ?
Hilarious.

The point is not whether you lead the league but are you in decline from your rookie year. His rookie year CLEARLY demonstrates he was a more effective runner and pass receiver than his 2nd and 3rd year. I didn't even have to look at the stats to know this. I can see it on the field. Still a great back though. Let's see if he can get back to a 5 yard per carry average.... EVER.

 

[Verdict]

oh and I guess AAron Donald, and our Guys like Dak and Amari wanting more then top 5 money are NOT egomaniacs.. seriously the man has right to maximize his income and you my friend, none of your business.

its a business this happens on regular basis all over all PRO leagues and Dak and Amari are worse because they are outside the top 0 at their positions turning down top 5 money, serious EGO issues and a blurred vision of who they are..

Zeke lives in the real world you can argue for days on whos the best Gurley, Barkley, Bell or Zeke , if he feels hes 1, he has an argument, thats not an ego.

lets not forget Stephen JOnes comments in Spring, "Zeke is worth Gurley money, thats where it starts"..

whos fault is this? The rams paid Gurley after YR3 Zeke is having to fight for it.. whose the issue..Its the Fo big mouth's and med to publicly speak on promises and worth pump up their superstars as the best then try and underpay them..then pubically rip him and say Zeke who, they have fueled this fire and im on Zekes side.. lets not get it twisted Dak and Amari while present are playing EGO hardball.. they arent worth anywhere near what they are askig and Zeke is, Proof the offers the Fo have already made is inching close to what zekes demanding.. if Zeke had no leverage and no basis to do this, no offers at all would have been made.

Zekes not first and wont be last to do this, SB will hold out after yr 3 if he doesnt have new deal, get used to it Elite RBs have had enough and are changing the way they are handled..

NFL players have short careers not just RBs thats bad I mean the worse argument ever give Zekes not missing games do to injury and lets See I know 6 highly paid QBs that have and another 6 that didnt make the playoffs..right hes RB dont pay him..AP, Frank Gore, and other RBs still laying in the s league and contributing..

Gurley hasn’t been suspended, and hasn’t been a problem to his team. He quietly goes about his business. Zeke has been a lightning rod since he was drafted and is squarely on the Commissioners radar. Rightly or wrongly, it’s a fact that can’t be ignored