Our future is not bright

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I agree. I think we need a complete defensive overhaul. Our offense is fine. I just don't think we can pay this quarterback and do what needs to be done on the defensive side of the ball. Can't pay QBs that are not elite the same as we pay elite QBs. Better off taking our chances in the draft.

I agree on the QB part, but don't really think the offense is fine given the constant flux we see on the OL. Tyron Smith is pretty much done and we cannot rely on him to finish out a season so definitely need to find his replacement that can work behind him and learn.. We got a center, but we need a guard - not sure if McGovern will be that guy. Also need to address TE
 

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Yeah lets not play our best player on offense currently. Good call.

Don't pay Dak because the defense sucks? These clowns make no sense.

Oline is on a revamp. I think we let Zeke and Cooper walk after next season. Spend the next two off seasons drafting defense and getting a key free agent or two with the Zeke and Cooper money.
 

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Yup it's not looking good. This team was built to contend now and yet we're staring at a full defensive rebuild. We wasted Tyron and Zack Martin's best years so who knows how many more elite years we can get out of them now that they're 30.
 

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"Dak is a slow starter...the offense never does good until it falls behind “

Dak 10-11 175 yards and 2 tds in the 1q vs Cleveland

Cowboys up 14-7

Omg dak sucks


And then we were stuck on 14 points for 3 quarters while the Browns kept scoring and scoring.


He’s 1-3. Not a difference maker.. I didn’t say he sucks.. He’s just obviously not as big of factor in the outcome of games as his pay grade would make you think.

He’s also 6-11 in his last 17 games.


He needs a lot and paying him just locks us further into this garbage team.
 

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And then we were stuck on 14 points for 3 quarters while the Browns kept scoring and scoring.


He’s 1-3. Not a difference maker.. I didn’t say he sucks.. He’s just obviously not as big of factor in the outcome of games as his pay grade would make you think.

He’s also 6-11 in his last 17 games.


He needs a lot and paying him just locks us further into this garbage team.

It's Dak's fault they kept scoring and scoring? Sounds like a defense problem. I could see if we are losing games 13-10. Then you can blame Dak and the offense. But when you are routinely ask to score 40 or more points a game, you blame that on the offense? Lmao. Carson Wentz is in 1st place and just won a game where his team had 11 points in the final minutes. Oh, and his defense got a pick 6 right after that. Wow what a concept! Defense helping out.

Mahomes just won 2 games this year by scoring 23 and 26 points. And in both of those games, he was average. He just made plays when he had to but guess what, his defense held it together. Do you even watch football besides Dallas? I am guessing you don't. Any good team out there has the other 2 units help out. Defense gets turnovers. Special teams makes plays. Our defense has 2 measley turnovers in 4 games. Special teams has put this offense at the 1 and 4yd line because they are inept. And then you people gripe when this offense can't drive 99 yards and score.

Here's an idea, how about the defense holds down the fort if the offense is off track? Every single turnover and punt is magnified because this defense is on pace to be the worst in the history of the NFL.

Stop allowing the opposition to ream it down your throat all game. Have wide open WRs constantly running free.

This defense just gave up 307yds on the ground WITHOUT THEIR BEST RB for most the game. Allowing over 9 yards a pop to backups.

Just stop already.
 

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And then we were stuck on 14 points for 3 quarters while the Browns kept scoring and scoring.


He’s 1-3. Not a difference maker.. I didn’t say he sucks.. He’s just obviously not as big of factor in the outcome of games as his pay grade would make you think.

He’s also 6-11 in his last 17 games.


He needs a lot and paying him just locks us further into this garbage team.

He needs a lot..an average defense isn't a lot
 

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It's Dak's fault they kept scoring and scoring? Sounds like a defense problem. I could see if we are losing games 13-10. Then you can blame Dak and the offense. But when you are routinely ask to score 40 or more points a game, you blame that on the offense? Lmao. Carson Wentz is in 1st place and just won a game where his team had 11 points in the final minutes. Oh, and his defense got a pick 6 right after that. Wow what a concept! Defense helping out.

Mahomes just won 2 games this year by scoring 23 and 26 points. And in both of those games, he was average. He just made plays when he had to but guess what, his defense held it together. Do you even watch football besides Dallas? I am guessing you don't. Any good team out there has the other 2 units help out. Defense gets turnovers. Special teams makes plays. Our defense has 2 measley turnovers in 4 games. Special teams has put this offense at the 1 and 4yd line because they are inept. And then you people gripe when this offense can't drive 99 yards and score.

Here's an idea, how about the defense holds down the fort if the offense is off track? Every single turnover and punt is magnified because this defense is on pace to be the worst in the history of the NFL.

Stop allowing the opposition to ream it down your throat all game. Have wide open WRs constantly running free.

This defense just gave up 307yds on the ground WITHOUT THEIR BEST RB for most the game. Allowing over 9 yards a pop to backups.

Just stop already.


It will always be something with Dak.. We’ll always be short somewhere and he’ll
Never get blame.

The truth is he has 1 playoff win in 4 years and we are headed for a crap season only being saved by our terrible division.

Paying Dak just further locks us into this mess. It’s obvious.. Don’t believe me? Just keep watching.
 

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He needs a lot..an average defense isn't a lot

We’ll improve it with jags and rookies.

Just like we did when he was affordable.

Now that the Dak bill is due we will put less around him and we will make excuses because he can’t do it with less around him.

We want our cake and eat it too when it comes to Dak.

We want him to be paid like an elite QB and we also want the front office to build the type of team it takes to win with Dak Prescott.
 

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He needs a lot..an average defense isn't a lot

Look at the offense and now look at what Carson Wentz is playing with on the Philly offense. Which QB is making more out of less? Rag on Wentz all you want but a QB who has the kind of firepower that is around Dak whose offense stalls for 2 quarters is something to wonder.
 

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Agree with everything the op said. Thats why i'm moving on. Been with the Cowboys almost 50 years. Everyone knows its time to leave already. Guess we just need to quit talking about it and actually do it.
 

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We have spent so much money on runningbacks and WR's and now our foundation is falling apart and the Dak bill is due.

I just don't see how we are going to overcome Dak's contract and somehow quickly improve this team. It's going to take years.

Jaylon Smith? Terrible contract

Lawrence? Terrible contract

LVE? Not reliable



Once Dak is signed the only way to improve this team is with rookies and we've been basically doing that since he has got here and we have nothing to show for it.

I wish Dallas wasn't so in love with their QB. I wish they would look to the draft and save themselves from locking us down into mediocrity.

We've lost almost all hope for doing anything this season and the Cowboys only redeeming quality is that our division is so bad.

McCarthy looks like the fraud I said he was. I still have hope but I hated this hire.

It's just bad and we desperately need to add a transcendent player or coach to this staff to even give us a chance to overcome all of this.

Dak, like Romo, just can't overcome all of our problems and paying them all that money just makes them insanely rich and the Cowboys insanely average.



Someone please give me a shred of optimism for this teams future....
While I agree we have some really terrible contracts on this team, adding Zeke to your list, this isn't as bad as it seems right now.

The notion that we need to let Dak Prescott walk because of bad contracts is just asinine. Dak is one of the true bright spots on this team and is someone you build around. Dak is better than both Goff and Wentz, guys who went #1 and 2 overall in his draft class. This should underscore the importance of signing him and keeping him because there are no guarantees. The fact that people keep holding him to a standard that few QBs actually attain in his 5th season is ridiculous. Mahomes, Rogers and Wilson are the only qbs that are better than him in this league right now. Maybe Josh Allen can be added to that list but 4 weeks does a qb not make.

I have an idea, how about we give it until at least 8 games before we start making this broad assumptions? Let's see what happens with this new coaching staff, lets get healthier. Let's see it before we go all Madden 21 on this team.
 

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What you dont seem to understand. Still. Which is amazing in itself. Is that this front office does not freaking care about the defense. At all. They didnt put a good defense around Dak when he was making 420k. You can blame Dak all you want about wanting the money he is OWED. But you cant say if we dont pay him we are going to build a defense. We wont.
he isn't owed **** he got paid union scale and is a top paid QB this year so just stop..
 

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Dak is better than both Goff and Wentz

Based on what evidence? LOL - Goff has taken a team to the SB and has beaten Dak in any game that mattered between these teams. Hell we played the Rams week 1 and Dak and his awesome offense was able to generate a whopping 3 points in the second half.
 

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It's Dak's fault they kept scoring and scoring? Sounds like a defense problem. I could see if we are losing games 13-10. Then you can blame Dak and the offense. But when you are routinely ask to score 40 or more points a game, you blame that on the offense? Lmao. Carson Wentz is in 1st place and just won a game where his team had 11 points in the final minutes. Oh, and his defense got a pick 6 right after that. Wow what a concept! Defense helping out.

Mahomes just won 2 games this year by scoring 23 and 26 points. And in both of those games, he was average. He just made plays when he had to but guess what, his defense held it together. Do you even watch football besides Dallas? I am guessing you don't. Any good team out there has the other 2 units help out. Defense gets turnovers. Special teams makes plays. Our defense has 2 measley turnovers in 4 games. Special teams has put this offense at the 1 and 4yd line because they are inept. And then you people gripe when this offense can't drive 99 yards and score.

Here's an idea, how about the defense holds down the fort if the offense is off track? Every single turnover and punt is magnified because this defense is on pace to be the worst in the history of the NFL.

Stop allowing the opposition to ream it down your throat all game. Have wide open WRs constantly running free.

This defense just gave up 307yds on the ground WITHOUT THEIR BEST RB for most the game. Allowing over 9 yards a pop to backups.

Just stop already.
Dak does need a better defense, no question. But Dak asking for elite QB money has done him no favors And Dak is nowhere near the talent level of Mahomes.
 

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We’ll improve it with jags and rookies.

Just like we did when he was affordable.

Now that the Dak bill is due we will put less around him and we will make excuses because he can’t do it with less around him.

We want our cake and eat it too when it comes to Dak.

We want him to be paid like an elite QB and we also want the front office to build the type of team it takes to win with Dak Prescott.

You make absolutely zero sense..you have this false sense that other qbs win w no help..they dont
 

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Look at the offense and now look at what Carson Wentz is playing with on the Philly offense. Which QB is making more out of less? Rag on Wentz all you want but a QB who has the kind of firepower that is around Dak whose offense stalls for 2 quarters is something to wonder.

Wentz does nothing..what the heck are you talking about..what a ridiculous comment..Wentz sucks
 

rnr_honeybadger

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Wentz does nothing..what the heck are you talking about..what a ridiculous comment..Wentz sucks

Yea, take your head out of your rear and pay attention - hate him all you want but Wentz did lead his team to win the division last year against the Cowboys and last week he just led a team filled pretty much no name WR's to a victory against the 49-ers. If that's sucking then that's something I will take over Dak's 500 yards of offense
 

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Yea, take your head out of your rear and pay attention - hate him all you want but Wentz did lead his team to win the division last year against the Cowboys and last week he just led a team filled pretty much no name WR's to a victory against the 49-ers. If that's sucking then that's something I will take over Dak's 500 yards of offense

Let me know when you are living in 2020..
 
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