Martin not playing Tackle just proves the coaches don’t get it

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I agree he should be out there. Only thing I can think of is they need Martin for Zeke and the run game up the middle.

Or they want to see what the new swing tackle looks like. McGovern played great last game and has looked good. He needs to be out there.
This is exactly what I thought. They want to run behind Martin in the middle.
 

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When you are forced to face morons who think steele is better at RT then Martin, name calling is appropriate.
Another outstanding contribution to the discussion. Conveniently ignoring my point.
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Tell that to the NFLPA....
BTW what happens if he has a season-ending injury?

Just me but I think you leave your BEST player playing his best position.

I wouldn't be surprised if MM and the FO took these thoughts into consideration, too. Anyway, we'll see how it goes! ;)
 

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Bingo! .....especially if he's your ALL-Pro who doesn't wanna move to a different position.
See how some twist it, like you're saying "Martin isn't as good as (Insert Linemen) at RT?
The best players at their position start and it's up to the staff to fill in the voids. I don't subscribe to the band-aid POV.
 

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See how some twist it, like you're saying "Martin isn't as good as (Insert Linemen) at RT?
The best players at their position start and it's up to the staff to fill in the voids. I don't subscribe to the band-aid POV.

Remember Zeke calls him the best player on the team. His side of the OL is where we get all our positive run plays. In other words, he's money at guard and you can manufacture some help ( if needed ) for a decent backup RT.
 

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Guess what, folks -- the decision has been made and all we can do is sit back and see what happens! End of story . . . o_O :grin: ;)
 
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I’ll defer to the coaches on this one. My order would be:
Plan A - Steele
Plan B - Nsehke
Plan C - Farniok/Knight
Plan D - Martin to OT.

I also might rotate Steele and Nsehke to keep the big guys fresh.

If Steele has jumped the Nsheke shark it’s safe to say Buffalo didn’t lose much .
 

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I’ll defer to the coaches on this one. My order would be:
Plan A - Steele
Plan B - Nsehke
Plan C - Farniok/Knight
Plan D - Martin to OT.

I also might rotate Steele and Nsehke to keep the big guys fresh.
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McGovern is better at right guard than any of the other spares on the roster playing right tackle...And we already seen this work last year finally when the idiots running this show finally put Martin at right tackle last year
Probably. I tend to agree with you. But it's not that wild a notion to think it could be as good or better keeping Martin at the position he is most comfortable and experienced at, even if the other position is somewhat less capably handled. It's all about the combination
 

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Remember Zeke calls him the best player on the team. His side of the OL is where we get all our positive run plays. In other words, he's money at guard and you can manufacture some help ( if needed ) for a decent backup RT.
I would feel different if it were the LT and only because Prescott is a righty. But moving Martin to the outside makes the inside that much younger, inexperienced and weaker. Unless fans want to prop up McGovern, Williams and Bladasz. To me Williams at LG benefits from help from Smith at LT, Bladasz benefits from having Martin right next door. And, whoever goes in at RT will also benefit from having Martin at RG. If we had Frederick at C, I wouldn't have an issue, but we have nothing close. I don't think our O line was all that great vs. Tampa, regardless of their talented D.
 

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Probably. I tend to agree with you. But it's not that wild a notion to think it could be as good or better keeping Martin at the position he is most comfortable and experienced at, even if the other position is somewhat less capably handled. It's all about the combination
If we have a decent blocking TE, that could be factored in on the formations if the RT struggles. Same with a RB. Elliott picked up a bunch of linemen vs. Tampa.
 

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There is no logical explanation to not play Martin at Tackle over this 5 game stretch.

Martin has the ability to play Tackle at a high level and you are purposely making yourself worse for whatever reason.

If Dallas can’t figure this out then we got coaching problems still. Martin shouldn’t have a say in this either. He’s paid to do a job and it’s not a permanent switch. It’s a short term solution that fixes a big problem.

This is a clear obvious move and if anything happens because of our right tackle it’s 100% on the decision makers who saw the obvious thing to do and ignored it.

If we slid him over to tackle and kept McGovern in I don't think we miss a beat. Isn't the idea to have your best players on the field?
 

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If we have a decent blocking TE, that could be factored in on the formations if the RT struggles. Same with a RB. Elliott picked up a bunch of linemen vs. Tampa.

Good point. Elliott is a strong blocker at RB. Not sure we have much in the way of blocking at TE though. Schultz is a little better than Jarwin.
 
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I would feel different if it were the LT and only because Prescott is a righty. But moving Martin to the outside makes the inside that much younger, inexperienced and weaker. Unless fans want to prop up McGovern, Williams and Bladasz. To me Williams at LG benefits from help from Smith at LT, Bladasz benefits from having Martin right next door. And, whoever goes in at RT will also benefit from having Martin at RG. If we had Frederick at C, I wouldn't have an issue, but we have nothing close. I don't think our O line was all that great vs. Tampa, regardless of their talented D.
All fair points.
 
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There is no logical explanation to not play Martin at Tackle over this 5 game stretch.

Martin has the ability to play Tackle at a high level and you are purposely making yourself worse for whatever reason.

If Dallas can’t figure this out then we got coaching problems still. Martin shouldn’t have a say in this either. He’s paid to do a job and it’s not a permanent switch. It’s a short term solution that fixes a big problem.

This is a clear obvious move and if anything happens because of our right tackle it’s 100% on the decision makers who saw the obvious thing to do and ignored it.
There is no logical explanation to not play Martin at Tackle over this 5 game stretch.

Martin has the ability to play Tackle at a high level and you are purposely making yourself worse for whatever reason.

If Dallas can’t figure this out then we got coaching problems still. Martin shouldn’t have a say in this either. He’s paid to do a job and it’s not a permanent switch. It’s a short term solution that fixes a big problem.

This is a clear obvious move and if anything happens because of our right tackle it’s 100% on the decision makers who saw the obvious thing to do and ignored it.


I promise you the reason is they are afraid of Deja Vu....He got hurt in his move to tackle last year. Its not like he cant get hurt at Guard, but I would bet money this is the reason.
 

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Good point. Elliott is a strong blocker at RB. Not sure we have much in the way of blocking at TE though. Schultz is a little better than Jarwin.
Yeah, that's my exact thought with the TEs with regard to blocking. I'd almost want a 6th linemen.
 

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We were one dimensional vs. Tampa. Without Martin at RG.

Our strength is NOT in the middle without Martin, did you watch the Tampa game?

Do you feel comfortable with Bosa going at Steele? Thats the Question....dont base it off what the Tampa Game looked like as even if Martin was in running up that middle would have been tough...hence best run defense in the league. That interior kills everyone for a reason. We have Bosa next and I'm sorry but Steele does not give me the warm and fuzzies on him.
 
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