2024-25 College Football Thread

[gtb1943]

Current model mandates that they never get a BYE. another reason I support the current model.
I also support anything that Greg Sankey cries about.

kind of a stupid take. Byes should be earned by an overall season record

 

[DFWJC]

YES, there is a reason to attach it to seeding.
And the NCAA tourney is a perfect example why.
Tourney winner getting to go face a 1 seed is not a reward.

The current CFP tourney is imminently more watchable and exciting than what you posit.
Anything that benefits the SEC and Big 10 should be killed off entirely.
Talking heads in business with those 2 big confs are not the commentators we need to take seriously.

Tourney winners don't get automatic #1 (or 2, or, or 4) seeds
nor should they
full season matters

 

[jterrell]

the mean part of me would kind of appreciate it if Manning is not what he has been puffed up to be

UT has been doing less with more (until now) since 2010; so at this point, I have no real hate for them.
I'm just glad they moved to the SEC so the Big 12 could stop cooking the books for them.
I'll leave it to the SEC teams to decide if they thought that year 1 UT conf schedule was "equitable".

I'd hate the SEC a whole lot less if they stopped being complete babies about everything.
Being the one conference that hand picks their Bowl games is absurd.
TAMU should be facing Baylor or Texas Tech. Instead, they are facing a 6-6 USC team to hide them from former big 12 foes.
Childish nonsense.
You are good enough to shut up and just beat people so go do that.

 

[jterrell]

kind of a stupid take. Byes should be earned by an overall season record

Assuming they weren't IS the stupid take.
How do you think you make a championship game?

You make that game then pretend the game doesn't matter at all?
Thats again goofy.

They matter and the top 4 high ranked conference champs SHOULD get BYES.

Want to stack 3-4 SEC/B1G teams in yearly? OK, let them play in the first round and advance to meet teams who actually won their conference championship games.

Boise State lost 1 game all year by 3 points to undefeated and number 1 Oregon. An Oregon that just beat Penn State by 8.

Yet cornballs will suggest 2 loss Penn St should be rater higher and get the BYE. Penn State lost to tOSU by 7 and Oregon by 8 and they didn't face Indiana. They do NOT deserve a BYE or the high ranking they have.

 

[atlantacowboy]

No, it isn't.
The SEC has a ton of fluff teams.
And the SEC was mediocre in non conf.
Losses to Cal, ASU, USC, ND, Toledo, Georgia State!!! Back blown out by Miami.
Where are these big SEC non conf wins???

Where are the wins? UGA beat ACC champ Clemson 34-3. Not saying every program is great every year..........but on average its much tougher than any other conference. Not even debatable.

 

[gtb1943]

Assuming they weren't IS the stupid take.
How do you think you make a championship game?

You make that game then pretend the game doesn't matter at all?
Thats again goofy.

They matter and the top 4 high ranked conference champs SHOULD get BYES.

Want to stack 3-4 SEC/B1G teams in yearly? OK, let them play in the first round and advance to meet teams who actually won their conference championship games.

Boise State lost 1 game all year by 3 points to undefeated and number 1 Oregon. An Oregon that just beat Penn State by 8.

Yet cornballs will suggest 2 loss Penn St should be rater higher and get the BYE. Penn State lost to tOSU by 7 and Oregon by 8 and they didn't face Indiana. They do NOT deserve a BYE or the high ranking they have.

So tell me Boise State and Arizona State deserve a bye

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

The SEC is a murderers row. BSU and ASU would be lucky to finish in the top half.

The SEC plays 8 conf games when they should play 9.
Furthermore many SEC teams schedule two fcs teams and many times towards the end of the season.

Now I do not doubt that BSU and ASU would have a hard time in the SEC. However the SEC needs to quit scheduling multiple FCS teams and add that extra conf game.

 

[atlantacowboy]

The SEC plays 8 conf games when they should play 9.
Furthermore many SEC teams schedule two fcs teams and many times towards the end of the season.

Now I do not doubt that BSU and ASU would have a hard time in the SEC. However the SEC needs to quit scheduling multiple FCS teams and add that extra conf game.

Why? Even with the cupcake , go look at the strength of schedule. 8 of the top 11 schedules are SEC teams. If the debate is which conference has the best teams top to bottom or most talent, there is no debate. UGA had Tennessee Tech and UMass on their schedule this year, but they also had to play Clemson, Alabama on the road, Texas twice, and Tennessee. What team had to do more than that?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Why? Even with the cupcake , go look at the strength of schedule. 8 of the top 11 schedules are SEC teams. If the debate is which conference has the best teams top to bottom or most talent, there is no debate. UGA had Tennessee Tech and UMass on their schedule this year, but they also had to play Clemson, Alabama on the road, Texas twice, and Tennessee. What team had to do more than that?

UGA had the hardest schedule. To the point that Kirby Smart ripped Sankey about it after winning the conf champ.

However it is still true that that SEC should have 9 conference games and get rid of one of those fcs schools especially towards the end of the season.

 

[atlantacowboy]

UGA had the hardest schedule. To the point that Kirby Smart ripped Sankey about it after winning the conf champ.

However it is still true that that SEC should have 9 conference games and get rid of one of those fcs schools especially towards the end of the season.

They might add MORE FCS teams if SOS isn't factored into the equation more. If the committee is going to weight an 11-1 record with zero wins over top 20 teams like they did in choosing Indiana over Alabama, what's the incentive to make SEC schedules harder with another conference game? The truth is the committee weights losses more than quality wins.

 

[gtb1943]

They might add MORE FCS teams if SOS isn't factored into the equation more. If the committee is going to weight an 11-1 record with zero wins over top 20 teams like they did in choosing Indiana over Alabama, what's the incentive to make SEC schedules harder with another conference game? The truth is the committee weights losses more than quality wins.

And they should hold a team more accountable for losses. supposedly they are trying to find the best teams and you rank them by how many losses and to who. THAT is in the end a better way to do it.
ND had a HORRIBLE loss to NIU. Just horrible. But they won ten straight games after that and beat ranked teams doing it. So they were given the benefit of the doubt. Now Alabama lost games all through the season and a late one to Oklahoma by THREE TOUCHDOWNS. They NEVER were COMPETITIVE the entire game. THAT is the loss that put them on the outside and deservedly so.

 

[jterrell]

Where are the wins? UGA beat ACC champ Clemson 34-3. Not saying every program is great every year..........but on average its much tougher than any other conference. Not even debatable.

ROFL, My dude you listed 1 game. A 16-team conference and you have 1 game to use as an example.
That should tell you something. I gave you 5-6 BAD losses. 2-3 Embarrassing, even.

The SEC is a really good football conference, but they also play ONLY 8 conf games. And they regularly have plenty of weak teams outside the top 40.
Instead of crediting them because Bama was great 5 years ago and Georgia was great 3 years ago, simply go beat people.
Dane Brugler's top 5: 2 Big 12 players, 2 Big 10 players, 1 SEC player. #6? Boise St RB.
This isn't 2015 anymore.

 

[jterrell]

So tell me Boise State and Arizona State deserve a bye

Yes. Boise State went 12-1.
They beat former PAC schools Wash St and Oregon State both by 21 and 16.
They lost ON THE ROAD to Oregon by 3 as their only loss. that is the BEST LOSS in the entire country.
They beat a quality UNLV team twice and defeated them handily in the championship game.

ASU. Won a P4 conference. Went 11-2. Beat an SEC team in the non conf by a TD. Lost 2 conf games but battled injuries in both matchups including having a backup QB in that 2nd game.
11-2 versus a top 40 strength of schedule.

Follow it logically the other way as suggested.

The champ games mean jack squat because you put in both SEC and B1G teams contestants with full BYEs.
The best the ACC and Big 12 are shooting for is a shot at spot 12 for the underdog and a home game for the favorite.
Completely meaningless stuff that is just the BCS all over again.

Remove the human committee eyeball test BS as much as possible.

Every NFL division champ gets in and THEN the wild cards get handed out.
This isn't hard at all; except for people who are used to sucking up to helmet schools so long they can't see straight.

 

[jterrell]

They might add MORE FCS teams if SOS isn't factored into the equation more. If the committee is going to weight an 11-1 record with zero wins over top 20 teams like they did in choosing Indiana over Alabama, what's the incentive to make SEC schedules harder with another conference game? The truth is the committee weights losses more than quality wins.

The SOS has zero to with Bama choosing to suck in conference.
Bama lost to two teams that would not have even been Bowl eligible without those Bama wins.
Vanderbilt was not a top 50 team and OU barely was if in fact they are at all. You can't have those losses plus another and have ANY complaints.

The SEC can schedule however awfully they want; and it only makes them look worse and every loss matter more.
Had South Carolina beat Bama they would have gotten in. Had Bama beat Vandy, they get in.

It is the SEC's job to create equitable schedules amongst their members not the CFP's to hand out free passes to the SEC.

 

[gtb1943]

Yes. Boise State went 12-1.
They beat former PAC schools Wash St and Oregon State both by 21 and 16.
They lost ON THE ROAD to Oregon by 3 as their only loss. that is the BEST LOSS in the entire country.
They beat a quality UNLV team twice and defeated them handily in the championship game.

ASU. Won a P4 conference. Went 11-2. Beat an SEC team in the non conf by a TD. Lost 2 conf games but battled injuries in both matchups including having a backup QB in that 2nd game.
11-2 versus a top 40 strength of schedule.

Follow it logically the other way as suggested.

The champ games mean jack squat because you put in both SEC and B1G teams contestants with full BYEs.
The best the ACC and Big 12 are shooting for is a shot at spot 12 for the underdog and a home game for the favorite.
Completely meaningless stuff that is just the BCS all over again.

Remove the human committee eyeball test BS as much as possible.

Every NFL division champ gets in and THEN the wild cards get handed out.
This isn't hard at all; except for people who are used to sucking up to helmet schools so long they can't see straight.

your logic has lots of holes in it so don't boast
JUST WHO DID BOISE play?
JUST WHO DID ASU play?
All sorts of holes in your so called logic