2024-25 College Football Thread

[atlantacowboy]

What a disaster for college football. 4 uncompetitive games. Nice work committee!

 

[gtb1943]

What a disaster for college football. 4 uncompetitive games. Nice work committee!

Gee one one your so called superior SEC teams got worked as well. tsk tsk tsk

 

[atlantacowboy]

Gee one one your so called superior SEC teams got worked as well. tsk tsk tsk

I see you're a brain. lol

Saying the SEC is top to bottom the best conference is not the same as saying every team in the SEC is better than any team in any other conference. Do I really need to break this down more for you? I won a lot of money last night betting on OSU b/c I knew TN was not a top tier SEC team and had a freshman QB. They beat Bama by a TD back in early October and haven't looked good since. But, I guess you have to actually watch college football to know such things.

 

[jterrell]

I see you're a brain. lol

Saying the SEC is top to bottom the best conference is not the same as saying every team in the SEC is better than any team in any other conference. Do I really need to break this down more for you? I won a lot of money last night betting on OSU b/c I knew TN was not a top tier SEC team and had a freshman QB. They beat Bama by a TD back in early October and haven't looked good since. But, I guess you have to actually watch college football to know such things.

LOL at the copium.
An SEC team that beat Bama(the "good" Bama loss BTW) was trashed.
They were overrated largely because people love to pretend Bama was good.

The SEC wasn't immune to having stinkers or just not being very good.
Georgia and UT were good. Thats it.
They are deservedly in the final 8.

The committee got it right.
The best Indiana team since 1945 deserved their shot at it and lost by 10 on the road as the lower seed.
So did the best SMU team in 40 years even if their kid QB was overwhelmed much like the kid from Tenn was.
The worst Bama team in a decade had no business ever barking about anything.

What's clear is those home road advantages are crazy valuable.

 

[gtb1943]

Indiana played their way into the CFP; those squawking about it can suck it; under the current rules it was definitely the right call.

Notre Dame dominated them as they should have; but that does not detract from their season accomplishments.

Oregon is no super team; though they are deservedly the #1 seed.

What SHOULD change is this idea that just winning a major conference gives you an automatic bid. conferences have up and down years; just winning one should not give an undeserved one.

I have always had a problem with the NFL giving a Division winner an automatic home game. We have seen several examples of teams with losing records getting that undeserved edge. Getting into the playoffs OK; but NOT a home game. Seed the teams as their records deserve.

 

[reddyuta]

a very wide open CFB playoffs now,apart from ASU and Boise any team can win it.

 

[DFWJC]

I don't have an issue with winners of major conferences (and at least 1 G6) getting auto-bids.
Where they screwed up was giving them the bye weeks.
That's silly

 

[gtb1943]

I don't have an issue with winners of major conferences (and at least 1 G6) getting auto-bids.
Where they screwed up was giving them the bye weeks.
That's silly

I have always liked College Football because the whole season matters. You cannot lose three or four games and win it all.
With this format it can happen. I think a champion should be one that shows it the whole season; not just December.

 

[atlantacowboy]

LOL at the copium.
An SEC team that beat Bama(the "good" Bama loss BTW) was trashed.
They were overrated largely because people love to pretend Bama was good.

The SEC wasn't immune to having stinkers or just not being very good.
Georgia and UT were good. Thats it.
They are deservedly in the final 8.

The committee got it right.
The best Indiana team since 1945 deserved their shot at it and lost by 10 on the road as the lower seed.
So did the best SMU team in 40 years even if their kid QB was overwhelmed much like the kid from Tenn was.
The worst Bama team in a decade had no business ever barking about anything.

What's clear is those home road advantages are crazy valuable.

Bama vs IU. Who you putting your cash on ? Thats my point. Bama is easily a favorite in such a matchup.
The committee followed rules which need to change. OSU should have had a bye. The 4 best teams should have the bye. It’s not a coincidence we had 4 stinkers in round 1.

 

[jterrell]

Indiana played their way into the CFP; those squawking about it can suck it; under the current rules it was definitely the right call.

Notre Dame dominated them as they should have; but that does not detract from their season accomplishments.

Oregon is no super team; though they are deservedly the #1 seed.

What SHOULD change is this idea that just winning a major conference gives you an automatic bid. conferences have up and down years; just winning one should not give an undeserved one.

I have always had a problem with the NFL giving a Division winner an automatic home game. We have seen several examples of teams with losing records getting that undeserved edge. Getting into the playoffs OK; but NOT a home game. Seed the teams as their records deserve.

Will agree with you on all but the conf champs.
NFL gets it right and this CFP version does too.

It is the ONLY thing making conf champs mean a single friggin thing.
And it is the surest way to ensure broader participation which means more fans stay engaged.

the average margin of victory in the 4 team CFP era? 17 points.
the average margin of victory last weekend? 17.3 points.

If the SEC wants to award a recruiting rankings trophy let them, but rankings, popularity and votes should play as little a part in this model as possible.
If they go 16, I expect them to lock in as many as 14 of those 16 slots based on conference finishes.

 

[jterrell]

Bama vs IU. Who you putting your cash on ? Thats my point. Bama is easily a favorite in such a matchup.
The committee followed rules which need to change. OSU should have had a bye. The 4 best teams should have the bye. It’s not a coincidence we had 4 stinkers in round 1.

Bama lost 2 games to teams EASILY WORSE THAN Indiana. And Tennessee is mightily debatable.

Indiana's defense was BETTER than OUs and Bama managed 3 points that game at the end of the season.

That Bama team simply isn't very good. Not on paper and not in practice. It was lesser than the Washington team DeBoer left on offense by a wide margin. And its defense was barely mid-tier SEC.
Jalen Milroe took a major step back this year. He last completed 20 passes in a game in the Tenn loss October 19th. And he only did it twice all year.
I guess the bright side for Bama is he was so mid he probably comes back rather than entering the draft.

 

[jterrell]

I fully expect a 2035 model to be a 64(high as 72 possible) team Super League divided by Region into 4 conferences of 16.
The top 4 teams in each conference/region will make a 16-team playoff.
In this model you'd play 8/9 conference games and 1 game versus each of the other conferences.
They might allow 1 non Super League game but it seems doubtful.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Bama lost 2 games to teams EASILY WORSE THAN Indiana. And Tennessee is mightily debatable.

Indiana's defense was BETTER than OUs and Bama managed 3 points that game at the end of the season.

That Bama team simply isn't very good. Not on paper and not in practice. It was lesser than the Washington team DeBoer left on offense by a wide margin. And its defense was barely mid-tier SEC.
Jalen Milroe took a major step back this year. He last completed 20 passes in a game in the Tenn loss October 19th. And he only did it twice all year.
I guess the bright side for Bama is he was so mid he probably comes back rather than entering the draft.

Yet, you didn’t answer the question. Bama vs IU on a neutral field. Who are you putting your money on? The talent disparity is laughable. But, you think what you want.

 

[gtb1943]

Will agree with you on all but the conf champs.
NFL gets it right and this CFP version does too.

It is the ONLY thing making conf champs mean a single friggin thing.
And it is the surest way to ensure broader participation which means more fans stay engaged.

the average margin of victory in the 4 team CFP era? 17 points.
the average margin of victory last weekend? 17.3 points.

If the SEC wants to award a recruiting rankings trophy let them, but rankings, popularity and votes should play as little a part in this model as possible.
If they go 16, I expect them to lock in as many as 14 of those 16 slots based on conference finishes.

so you agree that a losing record division champ in the NFL DESERVES a home game?

 

[atlantacowboy]

I fully expect a 2035 model to be a 64(high as 72 possible) team Super League divided by Region into 4 conferences of 16.
The top 4 teams in each conference/region will make a 16-team playoff.
In this model you'd play 8/9 conference games and 1 game versus each of the other conferences.
They might allow 1 non Super League game but it seems doubtful.

They need to do something if the plan is to include the ASU's of the world for winning a bad conference. Ticket demand for the Peach Bowl in Atlanta is a joke. You can get a ticket for $60 to Texas - ASU. One school can't carry a neutral site this far from home.

 

[reddyuta]

What a disaster for college football. 4 uncompetitive games. Nice work committee!

what a bad take,as if we didnt have blowout after blowout in every 4 team playoffs.SEC fans have lost their collective mind after a terrible Alabama team (who couldnt score a TD against a terrible Oklahoma team)was left out of the playoff.

 

[jterrell]

Yet, you didn’t answer the question. Bama vs IU on a neutral field. Who are you putting your money on? The talent disparity is laughable. But, you think what you want.

I wouldn't bet on that game.
Anyone betting on this Bama team at this point in 2024 is an idiot.
They were Jeckel and Hyde with a 7-5 ATS record. And a variance by game of 18 points versus the spread. Thats nuts.
Milroe's best game of the season was versus Georgia which is about as nuts as any stat on the entire year for any team.

I know Indiana would show up and play hard and play smart and disciplined football.
I know they'd have a great chance to limit Bama on the ground and force Bama to beat them via pass.
I also know Bama had more talent on paper and "could win easily if they got rolling".

Indiana was not good enough to beat ND but it was the closest game of the 4 and they gave up 98 rushing yards on one play. Outside that the defense kept them in it all day. ND defense was simply too good for Indiana to do much of anything so it was awful boring until ND went prevent.

Bama was probably not the 4th best SEC team. They just had 1 really good win. But 1 very good win and 3 bad losses will not get you to the CFP; yet, and hopefully ever.
The fact anyone is even discussing Bama getting in is SEC derangement syndrome.

 

[jterrell]

They need to do something if the plan is to include the ASU's of the world for winning a bad conference. Ticket demand for the Peach Bowl in Atlanta is a joke. You can get a ticket for $60 to Texas - ASU. One school can't carry a neutral site this far from home.

SEC had their shot at ASU and failed.
Too bad so sad. Play better next time.

 

[Hardline]

I wouldn't bet on that game.
Anyone betting on this Bama team at this point in 2024 is an idiot.
They were Jeckel and Hyde with a 7-5 ATS record. And a variance by game of 18 points versus the spread. Thats nuts.
Milroe's best game of the season was versus Georgia which is about as nuts as any stat on the entire year for any team.

I know Indiana would show up and play hard and play smart and disciplined football.
I know they'd have a great chance to limit Bama on the ground and force Bama to beat them via pass.
I also know Bama had more talent on paper and "could win easily if they got rolling".

Indiana was not good enough to beat ND but it was the closest game of the 4 and they gave up 98 rushing yards on one play. Outside that the defense kept them in it all day. ND defense was simply too good for Indiana to do much of anything so it was awful boring until ND went prevent.

Bama was probably not the 4th best SEC team. They just had 1 really good win. But 1 very good win and 3 bad losses will not get you to the CFP; yet, and hopefully ever.
The fact anyone is even discussing Bama getting in is SEC derangement syndrome.

Any SEC team except Vanderbilt would come closer to winning a national championship over a non SEC team with the exception of Ohio State and Oregon.
Even as bad as Alabama was this year could win it if given the opportunity.

 

[atlantacowboy]

SEC had their shot at ASU and failed.
Too bad so sad. Play better next time.

Not an SEC thing but I get your fixation on the SEC. Success breeds jealousy.