A look at the Roy Williams trade

[Bleu Star]

Great post. I respect everyone's opinion in the thread but there have been a lot of "homer" comments.

The homer comments are definitely plentiful. Doesn't surprise me... Ask any fan that's not a Cowboys fan what they think about our deal to secure the venerable RW11 and they'll often laugh in your face.

 

[Bleu Star]

Miles Austin runs crisp routes. Romo trusts Miles.

RW11 runs lazy uninspired routes. Romo barely has a modicum of trust for RW11.

More balls to Miles.

Less balls to the lazy oft injured one.

GG Jerry.

 

[junk]

The team could have had Roy Williams and the 1st and 3rd. However, Jerry overpaid at the deadline thinking it'd be the final piece to a Super Bowl.

Unfortunately, this team isn't really that close and it failed.

Roy would have been a FA and he wanted to play for Dallas. Detroit wasn't going to franchise him.

Poor move by a poor GM.

 

[TheSport78]

The homer comments are definitely plentiful. Doesn't surprise me... Ask any fan that's not a Cowboys fan what they think about our deal to secure the venerable RW11 and they'll often laugh in your face.

I hear ya man. My friends STILL trash talk me about the deal. Ugh, Roy would've been a FA after the 08' season anyway and wanted to sign with Dallas.

 

[Randy White]

The main reason Romo does not throw to him more, I think. He can't trust Williams to be where he is supposed to be if the ball is thrown

Another erroneous theory.

Jason Witten = 33 attempts in 5 games, 6.6 avg
Patrick Crayton = 32 attempts in 5 games, 6.4 avg
Miles Austin = 27 attempts in 5 games, 5.4 avg * ( 15 in one game )
Roy Williams = 25 attempts in 4 games, 6.25 avg


Y'all can keep coming up with dilusional complaints and failed theories about his so called " lack of production " but the bottom line is that Roy Williams is doing what the coaching staff is asking him to do and what the offensive game plan is asking him to do.

And once again, I'll ask:

You want the Cowboys' offense to revert back to the T.O. days in order to increase Roy William's productions to justify his roster spot in YOUR eyes, or would you like them to keep the current plan which is to spread the ball around as much as possible, trying to get everyone involved ?

 

[Bleu Star]

Another erroneous theory.

Jason Witten = 33 attempts in 5 games, 6.6 avg
Patrick Crayton = 32 attempts in 5 games, 6.4 avg
Miles Austin = 27 attempts in 5 games, 5.4 avg * ( 15 in one game )
Roy Williams = 25 attempts in 4 games, 6.25 avg


Y'all can keep coming up with dilusional complaints and failed theories about his so called " lack of production " but the bottom line is that Roy Williams is doing what the coaching staff is asking him to do and what the offensive game plan is asking him to do.

And once again, I'll ask:

You want the Cowboys' offense to revert back to the T.O. days in order to increase Roy William's productions to justify his roster spot in YOUR eyes, or would you like them to keep the current plan which is to spread the ball around as much as possible, trying to get everyone involved ?

Roy said to tell you that little thing you're doing to his groin tickles.

 

[Randy White]

Roy said to tell you that little thing you're doing to his groin tickles.

T.O. just twitered that his rear end misses your tongue.

 

[TheSport78]

Another erroneous theory.

Jason Witten = 33 attempts in 5 games, 6.6 avg
Patrick Crayton = 32 attempts in 5 games, 6.4 avg
Miles Austin = 27 attempts in 5 games, 5.4 avg * ( 15 in one game )
Roy Williams = 25 attempts in 4 games, 6.25 avg


Y'all can keep coming up with dilusional complaints and failed theories about his so called " lack of production " but the bottom line is that Roy Williams is doing what the coaching staff is asking him to do and what the offensive game plan is asking him to do.

And once again, I'll ask:

You want the Cowboys' offense to revert back to the T.O. days in order to increase Roy William's productions to justify his roster spot in YOUR eyes, or would you like them to keep the current plan which is to spread the ball around as much as possible, trying to get everyone involved ?

Randy White, read the post where I responded to what you said. It's about Roy making a big play in a big game.

 

[Bleu Star]

T.O. just twitered that his rear end misses your tongue.

At least you admit it. I admitted it long ago. I'm a reformed jock sniffer though. You're still very much caught up in the muck. Here's a towel.

 

[craig71]

The main reason Romo does not throw to him more, I think. He can't trust Williams to be where he is supposed to be if the ball is thrown. And when it is thrown to where Williams is supposed to be to catch it, he is not there.

Maybe,but then again T.O. was not the best route runner in the world either.

Craig

 

[Bleu Star]

Maybe,but then again T.O. was not the best route runner in the world either.

Craig

Please explain what TO has to do with the discussion of how much we got taken to the laundrymat over this RW trade. I'm having trouble correlating the two.

 

[Randy White]

I simply want Roy to make a big play in a BIG GAME. Roy's plays have come against the Bucs and the Panthers, but disappeared against the Giants and the Broncos.

ALL the receivers " disappeared " against the Giants, which is one of the main reasons why the Cowboys put over 250 yards on the ground against them.

I'm not putting any blame on Romo, I just don't think he's used to his WR's not getting separation so he's holding on to the ball longer.

You should. Especially against one of the games YOU claim Roy " disappeared " in: Denver. Romo had a terrible day that game, missing not just RW when the cameras showed he was open, but other receivers as well when they showed they were open.

History has shown that Romo can have a great game in BIG games (Colts in 06', Eagles, Giants and Packers in 07'). I'm not worried about him. I'm worried about Roy being that WR who can make the BIG play in crucial situations. I have my doubts.

Colts in 2006 ? He threw for 226 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT. How exactly was that a great game ?

History has shown he could have terrible games in big games as well. Inagural game at Cowboys Stadium against the NY Giants for example.

And after all of that, you're still not answering the question. You want TR to force the ball to RW so he can produce more or keep the current philosophy on offense ?

 

[Funxva]

6 of his 11 receptions have resulted in first downs, but that still doesn't mean much, Hos. He had 1 reception against the Giants in a nationally televised game. A true #1 is a playmaker that defenses have to account for each and every week. I guarantee you when defenses gameplan for the Cowboys during the week, they concentrate on stopping Witten and then take their chances with Roy. Roy isn't warranting his contract.

People have lauded TO on this site, and he was completely shut out of games before while he was here. Despite that, he put up good numbers. Number 1's cannot show up every single game, as sometimes they are schemed out of it.

 

[Randy White]

At least you admit it. I admitted it long ago. I'm a reformed jock sniffer though. You're still very much caught up in the muck. Here's a towel.

You're not reformed. You just haven't found your next sugar daddy, or are secretely hoping #81 floats back this way.

By the way, I defended T.O. just as hard as I'm defending RW.

 

[TheSport78]

ALL the receivers " disappeared " against the Giants, which is one of the main reasons why the Cowboys put over 250 yards on the ground against them.



You should. Especially against one of the games YOU claim Roy " disappeared " in: Denver. Romo had a terrible day that game, missing not just RW when the cameras showed he was open, but other receivers as well when they showed they were open.



Colts in 2006 ? He threw for 226 yards, 0 TD and 1 INT. How exactly was that a great game ?

History has shown he could have terrible games in big games as well. Inagural game at Cowboys Stadium against the NY Giants for example.

And after all of that, you're still not answering the question. You want TR to force the ball to RW so he can produce more or keep the current philosophy on offense ?

Point taken about the Giants game, but when it comes to the Denver game, I can't put all of that on Tony. Our WR's had CONSISTENCY issues with getting separation against the Denver D. My question is, why did Tony struggle? Obviously it wasn't just the WR's. The OL had a very suspect game, the WR's couldn't get open consistently even when Romo had time in the pocket. Roy was brought here to be that guy who can be Tony's go-to-guy in crucial situations. I have yet to see a big play where I can go, "Okay, THAT'S why Jerry traded for Roy!" I'm still waiting for that play.

With the Colts game, statistically Romo didn't have a good game, but he had a great completion percentage and made key plays on the final drive to go up 21-14 and then made a HUGE play to Fasano to keep the Colts' O off the field, then made a huge 3rd down conversion to Terry Glenn to seal the game. Those plays are often forgotten.

 

[Bleu Star]

By the way, I defended T.O. just as hard as I'm defending RW.

They're two different entities... If RW11 had TO's work ethic he would have already been a star in Dallas.

 

[craig71]

Please explain what TO has to do with the discussion of how much we got taken to the laundrymat over this RW trade. I'm having trouble correlating the two.

Simply pointing out that being a crisp route runner is not neccessarily part of the problem for Roys lack of success so far in Dallas.

Craig

 

[Bleu Star]

Simply pointing out that being a crisp route runner is not neccessarily part of the problem for Roys lack of success so far in Dallas.

Craig

I'll respectfully disagree. It has plenty to do with his current level of success in Dallas. Route running is everything to a QB. As a WR, if you end up in the wrong place often enough the QB will most definitely start paying less attention to you.

 

[craig71]

I'll respectfully disagree. It has plenty to do with his current level of success in Dallas. Route running is everything to a QB. As a WR, if you end up in the wrong place often enough the QB will most definitely start paying less attention to you.

Then why was T.O. targeted at all then,he has never been known as precise route runner.

Craig

 

[TheSport78]

Then why was T.O. targeted at all then,he has never been known as precise route runner.

Craig

Because T.O. was a lot more stronger and powerful than RW in Big D, and could get off the press a lot easier than Roy.