Adam Pacman Jones in a fight lastnight w/personal security...see Post #19

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k0wb0y;2320286 said:
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Seriously, if this is a suspendable offense, then I would be shocked.
 

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alby;2320287 said:
no arrests were made. He's not going to get suspended, maybe fined by the team.
I told you so. this is silly. nothing will come of this. just remember i told you so.
 

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Powerdad23;2320288 said:
Well..Maybe he'll take that fight attitude to the game with him. Might help!
he's one of the few who does on defense.
 

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windward;2320293 said:
Seriously, if this is a suspendable offense, then I would be shocked.

It is. It makes him look like he hasn't changed at all. With him, thats all there needs.

He messed up. He just needs to hope for a miracle.
 

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Hoofbite;2320308 said:
It is. It makes him look like he hasn't changed at all. With him, thats all there needs.

He messed up. He just needs to hope for a miracle.

Did you even bother to read the article AdamJT13 posted?:mad:
 

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he violated the terms of the NFL conduct contract with Goodell - if this story is close to accurate his NFL career is over.

Even worse if no one told Goodell before his visit. Thats the real story here.
 

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Hoofbite;2320308 said:
It is. It makes him look like he hasn't changed at all. With him, thats all there needs.

He messed up. He just needs to hope for a miracle.
Getting in a verbal argument is a suspendable offense? Please.

I highly doubt he is suspended.
 

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Boysboy;2320315 said:
Did you even bother to read the article AdamJT13 posted?:mad:

I did and it really doesn't matter what happened. At this point, he looks like an unchanged man, period.

If the Commish wants to punish him, he can.

windward;2320318 said:
Getting in a verbal argument is a suspendable offense? Please.

I highly doubt he is suspended.


Its not the argument he would be suspended over. Its the crappy perception of the whole incident and his "unchanged attitude". Not saying I want him suspended, just saying I think he will be.
 

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Nors;2320317 said:
he violated the terms of the NFL conduct contract with Goodell - if this story is close to accurate his NFL career is over.

Even worse if no one told Goodell before his visit. Thats the real story here.

Dude-you're starting to sound like a broken record.:laugh1:
 

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Hoofbite;2320321 said:
I did and it really doesn't matter what happened. At this point, he looks like an unchanged man, period.

If the Commish wants to punish him, he can.

So getting into a "verbal argument" means you're an "unchanged man"?:confused:
 

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Boysboy;2320324 said:
So getting into a "verbal argument" means you're an "unchanged man"?:confused:

Its not the argument that is the problem. Its the fact that something occurred at all.

It doesn't matter if he had passed gas in a bank, the fact that he was involved with something that had to do with the police arriving is enough to present a crappy enough depiction of what happened.
 

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Hoofbite;2320321 said:
I did and it really doesn't matter what happened. At this point, he looks like an unchanged man, period.

If the Commish wants to punish him, he can.




Its not the argument he would be suspended over. Its the crappy perception of the whole incident and his "unchanged attitude". Not saying I want him suspended, just saying I think he will be.
If Goodell suspends him because there is a " crappy perception" of the incident, then he is an idiot

Don't think he'll do that though JMO.
 

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windward;2320329 said:
If Goodell suspends him because there is a " crappy perception" of the incident, then he is an idiot

Don't think he'll do that though JMO.

I hope he doesn't.

I just don't see how he gets out of it.

Early hours of the morning, possible booze, possible property damage, police involvement.

Just doesn't look good. Theres a quote where Goodell talks about Adam avoiding situations that reflect poorly on himself, the team and the league.

I can't say that he has done that, no matter what actually happened.

I will say this, I think his only chance of avoiding punishment is if there isn't anything broken. If something is broken, I think he gets the wrath.


This is from Mosley's blog.

At about 6:45 p.m. ET, I was tipped off that Dallas-Fort Worth's local CBS affiliate, which happens to be the Dallas Cowboys network, was about to report that Jones had been involved in an altercation with one of his body guards at the trendy new Joule Hotel.

The Fort Worth Star-Telegram cited two sources saying that Jones had been attending a party hosted by rapper Ludacris when he squared off with a member of his security detail named Tommy Jones. The two men fought in a hotel bathroom, and finally had to be restrained by hotel security. Jones reportedly ripped off his shirt outside the hotel and then re-entered the building before the altercation.
 

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Hoofbite;2320343 said:
I hope he doesn't.

I just don't see how he gets out of it.

Early hours of the morning, possible booze, possible property damage, police involvement.

Just doesn't look good. Theres a quote where Goodell talks about Adam avoiding situations that reflect poorly on himself, the team and the league.

I can't say that he has done that, no matter what actually happened.

I will say this, I think his only chance of avoiding punishment is if there isn't anything broken. If something is broken, I think he gets the wrath.
Would Goodell seriously susppend Pacman for a year due to a broken mirror?

That is just ridiculous imo.

I could maybe understand a fine, but a suspension would be too much .
 

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windward;2320353 said:
Would Goodell seriously susppend Pacman for a year due to a broken mirror?

That is just ridiculous imo.

I could maybe understand a fine, but a suspension would be too much .

But there were no reports of broken mirrors(other than from Ed Werder)-so no.
 

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Boysboy;2320359 said:
But there were no reports of broken mirrors(other than from Ed Werder)-so no.
Oh yeah.

But even if so it would be a horrible rationale to suspend him. Fine him an amount plus the cost of replacing broken items yeah.

Suspend him? Awful.
 

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Got nothing but rumors and so called reports from so called people at the scene. At the same time no police report was filled, and other reports say it was only a verbal arguement. So right now there is nothing to suggest this is anything serious.
Pacman does have to toe the line= but at the same time this in no way appears to be anything that would call for suspension- and maybe not even a fine. So unlike Hoof and Nors who want him gone no matter what I say lets wait a day for more reliable reports.
 
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