Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[JoeKing]

imho, AP says no to Oakland. I dont think he goes to a rebuilding project and gets buried,

But I do see him saying yes to AZ. A legit team with SB aspirations.

imho, AP says no to Oakland as well and for the same reason but just going by what little we have heard from the AP camp, we can't discount them from possibility.

Is AZ in any better financial position than the Cowboys? If not, why would they have an advantage over the Cowboys? We have just as legit SB aspirations.

 

[Nightman]

You are high out of your mind if you think the Vikings are trading Peterson for the right to pay Carr 8m. Or taking a 4th and one cost controlled year of Mo coming off serious injury that might not even have him ready to start the season.

High out of your mind.

It is 4/20

 

[joseephuss]

http://www.azcentral.com/story/spor...asking-too-much-for-adrian-peterson/26087971/

So, the Minnesota Vikings want a first-round draft pick and a starting cornerback for Adrian Peterson.

That's 30-year-old running back Adrian Peterson and the $44.25 million in base salary owed to him over the next three years.

You had to figure the Vikings would set the bar high for teams interested in trading for Peterson, but a first-round pick and a starting cornerback? Yeah, and The Heat Index is going to rush out on Friday and stand in line for 12 hours to buy the new Apple Watch.

 

[Beast_from_East]

https://instagram.com/p/1lRG4YgLSg/

Dude looks like he lived in the gym the last year.......and you guys want to pass on that and go with a committee of scrubs + a mystery rookie to be named later.

 

[mattjames2010]

Dude looks like he lived in the gym the last year.......and you guys want to pass on that and go with a committee of scrubs + a mystery rookie to be named later.

Yeah, facepalm at what our organization is most likely going to do. Again, familiarize yourself with the rookies in this draft, one is coming to Dallas.

Quick, name the probowl RB backups in the league still playing at a high level? They are all "scrubs" in one way or another, that's why they are backups.

 

[gimmesix]

You are high out of your mind if you think the Vikings are trading Peterson for the right to pay Carr 8m. Or taking a 4th and one cost controlled year of Mo coming off serious injury that might not even have him ready to start the season.

I didn't say they would take it. I said that is what I would offer them. They are going to seek everything they can get, but that doesn't mean we should give it to them.

As I said, I wouldn't offer above a third. If I offered Carr, he's a starter and I wouldn't trade more than that for a 30-year-old back. If they want a pick and a corner, I'd offer Claiborne and a fourth. That's all I would give.

Sometimes the best move you can make is standing your ground. If that means Dallas drafts a running back in the first or second round instead of trading for AP, so be it. We'll see how it turns out.

 

[Beast_from_East]

He has $47 million left on his contract with Minny.................hell yes he would play for them if they guaranteed all of it


No team in the league is going to guarantee almost $50 million to a 30 yr old running back.

 

[Beast_from_East]

No, they don't have all the leverage. When a player doesn't want to play for you and you MAKE him.. that can be an ugly situation. Peterson could go out there and only give 50% if he wanted and there isn't anything they can do about it. If some team offers a #1 for him, they would be fools not to take it.. hell, even a number 2. That teams needs to rebuild badly.. Peterson's salary is an anchor around their necks. They can kill 2 birds with one stone by getting rid of his salary and getting a top 3 round pick for him. That is why they are going to trade him.

Exactly, you cant "force" a player to play.....................even if he reports, he is not going to give full effort.

I remember when Desean Jackson was pissed with the Eagles over his contract and he was literally "jogging his routes". The message was sent, "you can force me to play, but you cant force me to give effort".

This lasted for about 4 games and Desean was off the team.......................Don't think Peterson wont try the same thing, or he could pull a Ratliff and fake an injury.

If that doesn't work..............well, the ball sure might start getting slippery...............start fumbling 2 or 3 times a game and say "my bad coach". There are many things a player can do to force themselves off a team.

 

[mattjames2010]

Yeah, but Murray had smith, fredbeard, and martin. And "gaping" wide open.....lanes to the endzone. With just a little more speed. They wouldve been TDs.

Another bad argument.

Our offensive line was a great run blocking unit, they played great football. But they are not a historic offensive line, there have been countless RBs throughout history running behind great offensive line. 20+ plays by an RB or them taking it the distance doesn't happen often, no matter the offensive line.

Lesean McCoy ran behind one of the better offensive lines in the league in 2013, guess how many 20+ plays he had? 9. Adrian Peterson, outside of 2012, when he was running behind a top 10 offensive line, averaged about 8-9 20+ yard plays.

Demarco Murray had 15 20+ yard runs last year, Peterson MAY have had a few more; but I'm willing to bet he'd have around the same average as Murray.

 

[Sydla]

LOL at mattjames continuing to try to push this story that Peterson always ran behind a "top 10 offensive" line.

Twice he ran behind a Top 10 OL (and both those years they were ranked 10th), according to Football Outsiders, once behind the 11th and the other years their OL was ranked below 15th.

In other words, Peterson never really ran behind a dominant OL. A few good ones, some really mediocre ones.

 

[joseephuss]

Exactly, you cant "force" a player to play.....................even if he reports, he is not going to give full effort.

I remember when Desean Jackson was pissed with the Eagles over his contract and he was literally "jogging his routes". The message was sent, "you can force me to play, but you cant force me to give effort".

This lasted for about 4 games and Desean was off the team.......................Don't think Peterson wont try the same thing, or he could pull a Ratliff and fake an injury.

If that doesn't work..............well, the ball sure might start getting slippery...............start fumbling 2 or 3 times a game and say "my bad coach". There are many things a player can do to force themselves off a team.

With Peterson's history of fumbling problems how are you going to tell if he is doing it on purpose or not?

 

[JBS]

No, but if he wats out of Minnesota, he wants out. That shouldn't come with a price.



I don't think anybody - Vikings included - wants that contract.

Yes. But after acquiring him you want him to sign a new contract. Just bc he wants out doesn't mean he'll sign any contract you offer

 

[Beast_from_East]

And the last time that happened was when?

Desean Jackson.............Philly..............got pissed over his contract and was literally jogging his routes during games. Even got to the point he stopped even looking for the ball, just jogged a go route and talked the whole time to the CB that was running with him. He even admitted to it, this is an article about it.

DeSean Jackson Admits Not Giving 100% Last Season
By Jason Brewer  @BleedingGreen

 

[Stash]

Yes. But after acquiring him you want him to sign a new contract. Just bc he wants out doesn't mean he'll sign any contract you offer

No, and if those demands are too high, I would pass.

The same way I would if the Vikings' compensation demands are too high.

While I want to acquire Peterson, my willingness has its' limits.

 

[joseephuss]

No, and if those demands are too high, I would pass.

The same way I would if the Vikings' compensation demands are too high.

While I want to acquire Peterson, my willingness has its' limits.

Looks like you are recognizing it was never going to be as easy as some made it out to be to bring Peterson to Dallas. It was always going to be a challenging task.

 

[mattjames2010]

LOL at mattjames continuing to try to push this story that Peterson always ran behind a "top 10 offensive" line.

When did I say that? I said the two seasons, outside of 2012, that he ran behind a top 10 offensive line (Okay, okay, ONE was top 11) that he averaged 9 or so 20+ yard runs in a season.

Seeing as how he most likely will never reach 2,000 yards again, because history says he won't, his 27 20 yard runs in a season is not something to expect again.

LOLOLOLOOL

 

[gimmesix]

I didn't say they would take it. I said that is what I would offer them. They are going to seek everything they can get, but that doesn't mean we should give it to them.

As I said, I wouldn't offer above a third. If I offered Carr, he's a starter and I wouldn't trade more than that for a 30-year-old back. If they want a pick and a corner, I'd offer Claiborne and a fourth. That's all I would give.

Sometimes the best move you can make is standing your ground. If that means Dallas drafts a running back in the first or second round instead of trading for AP, so be it. We'll see how it turns out.

Correcting myself. I did say they would take it if it was the best offer ... and I believe that because I don't believe AP will be in Minnesota this year.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

No, but if he wats out of Minnesota, he wants out. That shouldn't come with a price.

I don't think anybody - Vikings included - wants that contract.

I am not sure AP wont go to AZ if the terms are more then Dallas is willing to match. And if AZ offers a higher pick then Dallas does, that will further put pressure on AP to take that deal. Minny will obviously want that deal.

I have no idea how badly AZ wants AP. But it adds up for me. They need "something" on offense or they may as well pack it in. They signed Lupaiti from SF.... I think their offer will be strong. Certainly much more then a 4th round pick. a big wag? maybe a 2nd and a player. Pay AP top dollar.

AZ picks 24th. So, if they can pick up Gordon or Gurley, they may just decide NOT to offer a 2nd and a player......which would be nice for Dallas sitting at 27th.

Draft day cant get here quick enough.

 

[Nation]

Don't forget those same Patriots went 'all in' and acquired the league's best cornerback and paid him $12 million for one year. As it resulted in a championship it looks like it was worth it.

They didn't have to get a draft pick, and in signing a player who had been cut didn't even have that impact their compensatory picks for 2015 (and will get a 3rd rounder in 2016). The Revis scenario is more like what we are doing with Hardy.

 

[JBS]

No, and if those demands are too high, I would pass.

The same way I would if the Vikings' compensation demands are too high.

While I want to acquire Peterson, my willingness has its' limits.

I understand that. But your demands are just as unreasonable...you're asking one of, if not the best, running back in the league to sign a contract of an above average player...I don't know where 12M guaranteed would place Peterson on the RB charts...but it isn't high