Adrian Peterson Sweepstakes ***Officially reinstated (again) and merged***

[Silver N Blue]

I know what?

You seem to be pretty much speaking in absolutes, which isn't smart considering the trade is a long shot at best. I could be misunderstanding what you're saying though because your posts are pretty jumbled.

Even on this post you made, I kind of have to decipher what it is you're saying.

I'm not hoping or dreaming about anything to do with AP. I'm using common sense. If Dallas wants him, then I will pull for him. What I'm doing is listening and watching what is going on and and all signs point to it not happening, including Stephen Jones saying they won't trade draft picks for vets.

All of that clearly points to Peterson to Dallas not happening. I really don't think it will. However, I'm not arrogant enough to think that I can't be wrong about it.

I'm certainly not belittling those who think differently than I do.

When all of this started I wasn't for or against the trade. Still not unless they give up a high draft pick... but it is pretty clear that it ain't happening.

I have never guaranteed anything. I have provided articles, pro and con, i have stated I want Dallas to aquire AD, be it trade or a FA. I am also on record saying he may not come here based on SJs comments. With that regardless of what SJ has recently said i still can hold out hope that may just very well be GM talk and nothing more. So until something official changes that notion I will continue to provide articles, both pro/con, as well voice my opinion based on the pro articles that he will in fact be in Dallas before the season starts. I feel AD increases the chances of Dallas returning to the SB. There is no arrogance in my opinion this will happen. IF it happens great IF it doesn't then this team has made the decision to move away from something that worked last year. The arrogance has clearly been demonstrated by the con side.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

How do you know he doesn't cut it? How do you know anyone on the roster isn't going to cut it? Going into last season did you think Murray was capable of the season he had? I bet you did not. Until last year, Murray was in a similar boat as McFadden. A player with the physical tools that was injured often. He probably looked a bit more solid than McFadden has but not a whole lot.

The coaches and front office think they can get more out of McFadden and they think a rookie will be fine. They have shown that in their actions so far this off-season. They think the offensive line was the key to the running game. They could be wrong but they deserve the benefit of the doubt after last year.

When I say "doesnt cut it" thats how I feel right now and its just my opinion. I dont have any special powers to see into the future. Its just how I judge it.

I dont like it at all...................

Of course I will be rooting and if they do well, then I'll realize I was wrong on this one. But before the season last year. Was anybody praising Jason Garrett, the Offensive Line? Jerry Jones.?

Winning does wonders for everybody involved. Now ask yourself, why were we successful last year?

 

[iceberg]

I'm trying my best to support my stance with as much truth as possible, and when it's speculation, I'm trying to present it in a plausible manner.

Again, does my theory of them having asked for a pay cut seem at least a bit more plausible than he and his agent simply walking away from all that money?

And that's as good as I can ask for here. An open mind that believes that 'anything can happen'.

you asked for it.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Out of curiosity, you guys who want AP, in the even we do not get him, what RB are you hoping for in the draft?

Coleman...I don't think Gurley/Gordon will be there and Ajayi has fumbling and knee concerns.

 

[Stash]

4th and a paycut.

I can dig it!

 

[superonyx]

How do you know he doesn't cut it? How do you know anyone on the roster isn't going to cut it? Going into last season did you think Murray was capable of the season he had? I bet you did not. Until last year, Murray was in a similar boat as McFadden. A player with the physical tools that was injured often. He probably looked a bit more solid than McFadden has but not a whole lot.

The coaches and front office think they can get more out of McFadden and they think a rookie will be fine. They have shown that in their actions so far this off-season. They think the offensive line was the key to the running game. They could be wrong but they deserve the benefit of the doubt after last year.

Just remember both Romo and Dez and Mike Irvin (and many others), reaction when we let Murray leave.....
That should tell you something about how valuable Murray really was to this team.
Romo gave a speech about how they need to keep Murray because they need to win now...They were willing to pay him a large amount to stay. If not for the eagles guaranteeing way too much money Murray would still be here. This should tell you that what actually went down wasn't the best option in the eyes of most. McFadden was a desperation move.
Romo knows the value of a RB who can do what Murray did. He went up to the line last year and read the defenses. He knows better than any one of us how much Murray really changed the offense....And he wanted to keep him...

 

[AsthmaField]

I have never guaranteed anything. I have provided articles, pro and con, i have stated I want Dallas to aquire AD, be it trade or a FA. I am also on record saying he may not come here based on SJs comments. With that regardless of what SJ has recently said i still can hold out hope that may just very well be GM talk and nothing more. So until something official changes that notion I will continue to provide articles, both pro/con, as well voice my opinion based on the pro articles that he will in fact be in Dallas before the season starts. I feel AD increases the chances of Dallas returning to the SB. There is no arrogance in my opinion this will happen. IF it happens great IF it doesn't then this team has made the decision to move away from something that worked last year. The arrogance has clearly been demonstrated by the con side.

Fair enough. Maybe you weren't speaking in absolutes. Honestly, I'm not going to go back and check, but I will pay more attention going forward.

Good to see that you're posting things for both sides of the debate.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Well, everyone currently on the roster doesn't impress me too much either.

With a draft pick and the winners of the competition between Ryan Williams, Joseph Randle, Darrin McFadden, and Dunbar, I do think the running game will be just fine.

I really like a rotation at RB to keep everyone fresh. IMO they should have rested Murray more last year. Randle could have handled much more and Demarco would have been better in the 4th quarters.

This is just my opinion, but Murray wasn't all that either. The guy missed many chances for cutbacks. He left a lot of yards on the table, IMO, and his vision is sketchy. He had good toughness and ran hard, but he simply isn't irreplaceable.

I think there is a pretty good chance the run game is better this year than last.

I agree with most but unless they draft a bellcow or bring in AD I just don't see how this run game gets better with the current regime.

 

[Stash]

Coleman...I don't think Gurley/Gordon will be there and Ajayi has fumbling and knee concerns.

Coleman is my pick too.

I think Gurley is long gone and I don't want Gordon and I feel Coleman is a superior running back to him anyway.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Fair enough. Maybe you weren't speaking in absolutes. Honestly, I'm not going to go back and check, but I will pay more attention going forward.

Good to see that you're posting things for both sides of the debate.

Yes nor would I expect anyone to go back and look through this thread. Trying to keep it fair. I hear what your saying and clearly the debate is engaging.

 

[Silver N Blue]

Coleman is my pick too.

I think Gurley is long gone and I don't want Gordon and I feel Coleman is a superior running back to him anyway.

Another subject we agree on Stash!

 

[JoeBoBBY]

I don't think Randle makes it out of training camp. Dunbar is a good special teams player so I think he stays. My pick for RB was Ajayi until news of his knee condition came out. If Gordon or Guryley drops, I take one of them. If not, I don't have a problem waiting until the third and picking up Duke Johnson or similar.

Duke Johnson. Caught an interview on NFL.com -- All time leading rusher at the Miami. That has got to count for something.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rb-duke-johnson-i-fit-dallas-offensive-scheme

 

[Stash]

Duke Johnson. Caught an interview on NFL.com -- All time leading rusher at the Miami. That has got to count for something.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...rb-duke-johnson-i-fit-dallas-offensive-scheme

I like the Duke, but hate the fact that drafting him almost guarantees some sort of running back by committee, which I have never been a fan of.

I could only hope that Johnson could somehow, someway be 'the man'.

 

[Bullet22]

This draft will be about the Defense..if we do draft a back..it will be 4 thru 7th round..Mcfadden is the starter...

 

[pansophy]

Rather than rehash 100 + pages, I'll just recommend using Google and the words "Peterson" and "Cowboys".

I could have given you the same response, but I actually gave a summary of evidence. Why don't you just say that is there is no evidence and its just hope and conjecture that we will go after AP.

 

[Stash]

I could have given you the same response, but I actually gave a summary of evidence. Why don't you just say that is there is no evidence and its just hope and conjecture that we will go after AP.

What evidence short of tampering satisfies your criteria?

If that's the bar you're setting there's no way anyone could reach it.

 

[ufcrules1]

Wow... Hardy suspended 10 games.. now we really need Peterson to help out our defense. The best defense is a good offense.

 

[pansophy]

You see what the numbers clearly show.

And 'Hall of Fame' running backs are not easy to find. Not in any way, shape, or form.

How many teams in the last 20 years have had a HOF RB that led them to win the super bowl. I think you will find that list to be short. The Vikings have had him through out his 20's and they obviously haven't done very much.

I agree that we need to keep running the ball to continue to take the next step. I just don't think we need an all-pro at every skill position to do it, and I know its impossible to do that on offense and defense unless you happen to hit the lottery on a few years of draft picks.

If we have restrict resources to a position, RB is one that makes sense.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Wow... Hardy suspended 10 games.. now we really need Peterson to help out our defense. The best defense is a good offense.

Huh?

 

[ufcrules1]

Huh?

It was just announced Greg Hardy is suspended for 10 games this year. That means our defense is going to take a hit. Getting a RB like Peterson, helps sustain drives and keeps the defense off the field longer. Hence.. the best defense we can have is a solid offense.