Anyone but skin homers really think

[Bob Sacamano]

btw, where is this potential greatness skin fans see in Lloyd? instead of blaming the QB play, blame 40/60 himself too, there's a reason he got that moniker, running the wrong routes, dropping passes etc.

 

[5Stars]

How much mileage can you people get off of that?

The Cowboys owned the Commanders (literally) for years on end and yet Dallas fans were never entitled bragging rights. There was always a "but": crooked referees, bad luck, injuries, black cats. And it applied for you no matter what. Even when you lost to a 1-15 team.

You cling to your infrequent victories and overblow them.

When the losses pile up, they are dismissed.

It is sad. Completely and utterly pathetic.

Black cats?...!!!!!!!!

:laugh2:

Stupid Cowboy fans........

 

[riggo]

The Cowboys owned the Commanders (literally) for years

not 'literally'. :bang2:

 

[5Stars]

not 'literally'. :bang2:

Semantics...OK?

In other words, the Cowboys beat your lousy team like a rented mule, for years on end....!

That better?

 

[burmafrd]

you skins were our *****es for years. One good year does not change that.

 

[Hostile]

Go ahead, write it off as nonsesne. You can pretend the biggest loss in the rivalries history didn't sting, but I guarantee it stung Big Tuna.

The "biggest loss in the rivalry's history?"

You can't be very old if you think last year was the biggest. It isn't even close on either side of the storied rivalry. No way, no shape, no how.

Every loss stings. Don't try to tell me it doesn't.

 

[riggo]

Semantics...OK?

In other words, the Cowboys beat your lousy team like a rented mule, for years on end....!

That better?

yes. much.

 

[Hostile]

actually its quite warm in DC today

That's because Dallas isn't looming on the schedule tomorrow. If we were you wouldn't be bragging.

Every decade Riggo. Last year won't escape that fact. Even the 80's where your team was at it's supposed heyday, and we were the worst we've ever been, we beat you 9 of 18.

Hell man, in 1989 we won 1 freaking game. Guess who was the victim?

Bingo.

as far as moss, i agree that TO has been elite for awhile, and, while moss may not be on his level yet, he does have one small thing on TO. he had more yards recieving last year than TO has ever had in his career.

Guess what? Jim Brown never had a 2000 yard season like Jamal Lewis. Go ahead and try and tell me that means Jamal Lewis deserves to be mentioned in the same breath.

Good luck.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Even with that in mind our receiving corps as a whole is better than the Cowboys.

Remember, this topic is about depth.

if the argument is about depth, it's not much of an argument, ok, you guys have depth, although the only WR of note is your 3rd, randle El, and we got a #3 WR who put up comparable #s in less games

I'd take our 2 starters over your whole WR corp, I bet they'll have as close to as many yards and TDs as your top 4 combined, hell, TO had more TDs than Randle El and Lloyd combined last year, in 8 less games

 

[Bob Sacamano]

The "biggest loss in the rivalry's history?"

You can't be very old if you think last year was the biggest. It isn't even close on either side of the storied rivalry. No way, no shape, no how.

Every loss stings. Don't try to tell me it doesn't.

that speaks to how sad this rivalry was up until last year, well, sad for the Skins

 

[Bob Sacamano]

he had more yards recieving last year than TO has ever had in his career.

not to mention about 25 less receptions and 7 less TDs, respectively, that TO had in his best season

 

[Renesis]

not to mention about 25 less receptions and 6 less TDs that TO had in his best season

This brought up a thought that is kind of off topic, but I was wondering what you guys consider more important yards or catches. No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to compare TO and Moss, 'Skins fan or not, TO is obviously on a higher level. Just curious as to the opinions of fellow football fans.

Between two players with these stats who had the better year?

100 catches 1500 yards 12 TDs
85 catches 1500 yards 12 TDs

I've never been able to form a solid opinion on this myself.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

This brought up a thought that is kind of off topic, but I was wondering what you guys consider more important yards or catches. No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to compare TO and Moss, 'Skins fan or not, TO is obviously on a higher level. Just curious as to the opinions of fellow football fans.

Between two players with these stats who had the better year?

100 catches 1500 yards 12 TDs
85 catches 1500 yards 12 TDs

I've never been able to form a solid opinion on this myself.

well since the stats are almost identical, you'd have to take the WR w/ the higher ypc, that means more big plays were made from your guy

to gauge the effectiveness of a player, is to look at how many big plays one makes, but of course that is limited to certain positions such as the skill ones on O and pass-rushers and Safeties

edit: sorry, your answer is the receiver who had 85 catches for 1500 yards and 12 TDs

 

[riggo]

Guess what? Jim Brown never had a 2000 yard season like Jamal Lewis. Go ahead and try and tell me that means Jamal Lewis deserves to be mentioned in the same breath.

Good luck.

did you compare jim brown to TO?

again, not saying moss is on TO's level. but he had a ton of yards last year. that counts for something.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

did you compare jim brown to TO?

TO may be on Jim Brown's level as receiver, after all, he has 101 career TDs, and has been dominating his sport for awhile now

but he had a ton of yards last year. that counts for something.

and only 1 more TD in 8 more games *tisk* *tisk*

 

[5Stars]

This brought up a thought that is kind of off topic, but I was wondering what you guys consider more important yards or catches. No, this is not a thinly veiled attempt to compare TO and Moss, 'Skins fan or not, TO is obviously on a higher level. Just curious as to the opinions of fellow football fans.

Between two players with these stats who had the better year?

100 catches 1500 yards 12 TDs
85 catches 1500 yards 12 TDs

I've never been able to form a solid opinion on this myself.

You should never leave yards on the field...so I say yards...because moving the chains is the name of the game.

Think about it...?

If Bledsoe threw 10 passes to ME, I could probably catch 7, maybe, but not go anywhere...

But if Bledsoe threw 1 pass to maybe you...maybe you could run for another 10 or so yards...

Never leave yards on the field...pitch and catch is for baseball...

 

[Renesis]

well since the stats are almost identical, you'd have to take the WR w/ the higher ypc, that means more big plays were made from your guy

to gauge the effectiveness of a player, is to look at how many big plays one makes, but of course that is limited to certain positions such as the skill ones on O and pass-rushers and Safeties

But on the flip side, wouldn't the guy with more catches have been more important to his team, as he was able to make more plays, even if they weren't as big?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

But on the flip side, wouldn't the guy with more catches have been more important to his team, as he was able to make more plays, even if they weren't as big?

depends, if the guy w/ 100 receptions was thrown to more, then it's natural that he should have more rec., now if the difference in drops was that much greater for the guy w/ 85 rec., having the same amount of balls thrown to him, then I'd have to give it to the guy w/ 100 receptions, cuz that means he's more reliable

think about it, what would you rather have, Larry Centers catching 100 balls, or Santana Moss catching 86? ypc. and TDs, I give more credence to than yards

 

[5Stars]

But on the flip side, wouldn't the guy with more catches have been more important to his team, as he was able to make more plays, even if they weren't as big?

No....

 

[Bizwah]

Go ahead, write it off as nonsesne. You can pretend the biggest loss in the rivalries history didn't sting, but I guarantee it stung Big Tuna.

I'm not sure what you meant here.....

That game was definitely OUR worst loss in the history of the rivalry.

But it's not the worst loss in the history of the rivalry.

We beat you all 44-14 in.......82....or 83????