Anyone still think Reggie McNeal can't play QB in the NFL?

[VThokie7]

The falcons sure as hell do a lot of things VT did. Designed QB runs. Fake QB runs where he drops back after acting like its a draw. A lot of short passes.

Your debating the effectiveness of their collegiate accuracy by talking about designed QB runs? Sorry but those have no bearing on a QB's accuracy. Just because the Falcons and VT both ran Vick doesn't mean they ran similar offenses.

 

[The30YardSlant]

It's *almost* always improv

Then I guess McNabb can look off all his reads in under a second

 

[parchy]

Your debating the effectiveness of their collegiate accuracy by talking about designed QB runs? Sorry but those have no bearing on a QB's accuracy. Just because the Falcons and VT both ran Vick doesn't mean they ran similar offenses.

Exactly, we're getting off track here.

There is no basis for the claim "McNeal has much better accuracy than Vick." Absolutely none.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Your debating the effectiveness of their collegiate accuracy by talking about designed QB runs? Sorry but those have no bearing on a QB's accuracy. Just because the Falcons and VT both ran Vick doesn't mean they ran similar offenses.

But VT didnt throw downfield NEAR as much as A&M does. Comppleting a 5 yard out is much easier than 30 yard streak

 

[parchy]

But VT didnt throw downfield NEAR as much as A&M does. Comppleting a 5 yard out is much easier than 30 yard streak

And thus, Vick's passing % is slightly higher than McNeal's.

 

[5mics]

And for those of yall riding VY Jock. He is Full of potential, but potential only gets you so far. Dont get me wrong being a aggie I tip my hat at VY really gifted athlete. but when everyone was like OMG look what he did to USC's Defense is were the went wrong. USC has a Pac 10 defense which is yea...He wont be able to run like he did in college because the first time he does he is going to get popped.

VY's potential got Texas its 1st National Championship in 30-plus years. I think VY's potential has got him pretty far, don't ya think.....

 

[VThokie7]

And thus, Vick's passing % is slightly higher than McNeal's.

Not to mention this isn't even debatable based on the fact Michael Vick only spent 2 seasons in college. While McNeal had a full 4 years. Michael Vick's best season was his freshman season when he wasn't hurt, where he posted a 59% completion percentage. And there is nothing any of us are going to find that will definitiavely prove either QB was more accurate in college.

 

[5mics]

reggie mcneal has a much better chance of being a successful nfl qb than vince young does.

Based on what? His college production?!

 

[parchy]

And there is nothing any of us are going to find that will definitiavely prove either QB was more accurate in college.

Correct, which is why it's ridiculous to say it any other way. I mean, how about we wait until McNeal gets to the NFL before we start harping on how great his accuracy is?

 

[Rack]

And the award for "Homer of the Year" goes to...

 

[lzppjb]

http://media.putfile.com/McFetal40

 

[ghst187]

He'll play in the NFL. But he won't ever be great.

i agree, he's definitely not ever going to be a starting QB in the NFL. He'll be lucky to turn into a 2nd stringer if he plays QB at all.
He has one great game out of 4....apparently the Shrine game turned out to be that one. He turned in one against OU a few years back with a huge upset, then stunk the next 3. Has always been the way with him.
Against UT, Tx A&M didn't do anything until McNeal got hurt and their backup rolled up yards and points against UT.

 

[DIAF]

Yeah, Florida was sure putting up numbers without him...

Grossman played 2 years with spurrier's offense in college. Grossman's monster year came in spurrier's final year at UofF. After Zook took over, Rex's numbers were down in his final season.

And if you look, even then UofF qbs put up numbers. Chris Leak's numbers have been pretty damn good under Zook/Meyer.

 

[DIAF]

Reggie McNeal was supposed to be all-freaking world. I remember being excited when i heard that the Ags had signed what was supposed to be one of, if not THE top QB recruit in the country, only to have that turn to extreme disappointment as he never produced.

Yeah, the guy has skills. Big arm, nice speed. But he sucked for most of his college career. Didn't live up to the hype. Much like Jason Campbell, except Campbell got his head out of his *** for one season (thanks to those top 5 picks behind him in the backfield) and finally showed why he was a huge recruit. McNeal never did that. I think McNeal can play in the NFL, but he's going to need a lot of developing and he'll have to work hard himself on the non-physical aspects of his game or he won't make it.

And while we are arguing about whether or not McNeal > Vince Young or McNeal > Vick or whatever, let me say this.

As far as this draft is concerned, when we are discussing QBs with McNeals' skill set.... DJ Shockley > McNeal. Similar HS pedigrees as all-star recruits, similar physical talents, except one produced when given the chance and the other never really did. Gimme DJ any day over McNeal.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Dang, 15 pages about Reggie Mcneal, dude must have really lit it up in the All-Star Game.

One quote sticks out on this entire thread but I cant remember who said it and what page it was on.

The poster basically said that nobody from Texas A&M said anything about Reggie Mcneal until he had one good game, which was the all-star game.

This statement is extreme true, which I was surprised. As a matter of fact, I remember posting in the Draft Section about how I felt Mcneal was just as good as Vince Young and somebody from A&M (can't remeber who) jumped in and said "Yeah, but Mcneal has no heart". But yet we have 15 pages about a one game performance, you guys should have been talk about this guy the entire year.

Reggie Mcneal is a full of potential just like 100% of NFL Prospects, including 1st Round Draft Choices. Nothing more, nothing less.....

- Mike G.

 

[Hostile]

Dang, 15 pages about Reggie Mcneal, dude must have really lit it up in the All-Star Game.

One quote sticks out on this entire thread but I cant remember who said it and what page it was on.

The poster basically said that nobody from Texas A&M said anything about Reggie Mcneal until he had one good game, which was the all-star game.

This statement is extreme true, which I was surprised. As a matter of fact, I remember posting in the Draft Section about how I felt Mcneal was just as good as Vince Young and somebody from A&M (can't remeber who) jumped in and said "Yeah, but Mcneal has no heart". But yet we have 15 pages about a one game performance, you guys should have been talk about this guy the entire year.

Reggie Mcneal is a full of potential just like 100% of NFL Prospects, including 1st Round Draft Choices. Nothing more, nothing less.....

- Mike G.

QB will always be a hot button topic that will bring out a lot of opinions.

 

[Kangaroo]

The thing is, Franchione's F'ed up offense screwed his senior season up. That BS spread crap with an option run every other play. He tore it up in 2004 with a convential, pro style offense.

Had Reggie played at Texas, with all that talent around him and a better system, I have no doubt he would have put up the same numbers VY did. Now, VY is a better leader, but one can learn to be a leader. Reggie's physical skills are actually superior to VY's. He is faster, can throw farther, and actually has a pro throwing motion.

Well one of the best games Reggie ever had was in Kilthorpe offense which was more a Pro style offense and he burned OK bad and yes Dennis screwed up going to the spread offense which I never really liked Reggie has always been more of a scrambling QB that can run he rather throw 1st than run. Funny how he was a leader playing on a crapy team with little talent over achieving and won more games then they should but is no longer a leader when the whole team struggles. Not to mention Mobley a WR who got open a lot but dropped about 1/2 the Balls that hit him in the hands costing them several games including the Clemnson game.

I always like Reggie I think he will go around the 3rd round to much talent to last past there

 

[Shawn9]

VY's potential got Texas its 1st National Championship in 30-plus years. I think VY's potential has got him pretty far, don't ya think.....

Ok does that mean he is going to be the MVP of the NFL one year or will he led his team to the SB. Oh wait Akali Smith had potential...were is he now.....

 

[Maikeru-sama]

QB will always be a hot button topic that will bring out a lot of opinions.

Cool.

 

[jimmy40]

Hold up I will try and find it. I remember reading about it.

Like I said before , if McNeal runs a 4.28 the kid from Clemson runs a 3.9. Neither is true.