Are we a better team with Dak or Rush?

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Defense is “suffering”? Goodness gracious dude…we’re 3rd in the league in PPG allowed.
4 of the 5 games with Rush the defense allowed under 20 points.

The defense has allowed at least 20 points 4 times in the 6 games since Dak came back.

Shoulda checked those stats before jumping in.
 

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Brady was a 6th round pick.
Finally I was wondering who was going to throw out Brady's name. Congrats you're the winner. Anytime someone is trying to prove a point someone always has to throw his name out. He is a once in a lifetime player that has beaten all the odds.
 

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4 of the 5 games with Rush the defense allowed under 20 points.

The defense has allowed at least 20 points 4 times in the 6 games since Dak came back.

Shoulda checked those stats before jumping in.
As season goes along, I would expect teams to do better against the defense. Those first 5 teams weren't exactly juggernauts at the time. Only Cincy has elevated. While I may not like Dak's price performance ratio, The team is better when he is playing versus Rush.
 

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4 of the 5 games with Rush the defense allowed under 20 points.

The defense has allowed at least 20 points 4 times in the 6 games since Dak came back.

Shoulda checked those stats before jumping in.

So we’re just assuming they play worse for a different QB. Got it.
 

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Finally I was wondering who was going to throw out Brady's name. Congrats you're the winner. Anytime someone is trying to prove a point someone always has to throw his name out. He is a once in a lifetime player that has beaten all the odds.
There are many examples just like Brady. Don’t act like he’s the only one. It makes you look stupid.
 

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The fact that Dak is 4 INTS away from leading the NFL dispite missing 5 games only helps the defense out I assume?

The highest the D gave up with Dak was 29 against the Bears. We won by 20 and once the lead was so high the D essentially said we don’t care if you run for 200.

Go look at the league leaders in INTs in football and then report back. Let me know if you like those QBs or not.
 

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So you think all of those guys I referenced are clear cut better QBs than Dak? And that they didn’t have help being on great teams?

And again, you’re putting it on one player to “at least get to the Super Bowl.” Dude it isn’t happening barring a miracle. The Eagles and 49ers are clearly more talented teams. Ain’t Daks fault.


You are such a Dak homer you dont even know where you want to go as far as a debate anymore.
Yes I think all those QB's are better then Dak. They have all taken their team to the superbowl, so they deserve that honor. What has Dak done? Exactly nothing. If Dak takes the Cowboys to the Superbowl then he can be included in that discussion. Until then he is still nothing more then a 4th round pick playing in his 7th year with not much to show for it....I mean come on man, even the Cowboys weren't expecting much from him. They settled on Dak after their first two QB choices fell though in the 2016 draft.
Just be happy with what Dak is and quit trying to make him better then what he is.
 

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The highest the D gave up with Dak was 29 against the Bears. We won by 20 and once the lead was so high the D essentially said we don’t care if you run for 200.

Go look at the league leaders in INTs in football and then report back. Let me know if you like those QBs or not.
They literally gave up 31 against GB the week after the Bears and we lost.

How about you get your facts straight and report back instead?
 

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You are such a Dak homer you dont even know where you want to go as far as a debate anymore.
Yes I think all those QB's are better then Dak. They have all taken their team to the superbowl, so they deserve that honor. What has Dak done? Exactly nothing. If Dak takes the Cowboys to the Superbowl then he can be included in that discussion. Until then he is still nothing more then a 4th round pick playing in his 7th year with not much to show for it....I mean come on man, even the Cowboys weren't expecting much from him. They settled on Dak after their first two QB choices fell though in the draft.
Just be happy with what Dak is and quit trying to make him better then what he is.

You’re cracking me up dude. I’ve never in my life heard someone so hell bent on draft round being the end all be all. And QBs “taking their team to the Super Bowl.” That’s not real life. Brady and maybe Mahomes are like the only 2 dudes in the last 30 years that have done that.

Staffords W/L record against winning teams before the Rams was like 10%.
 

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They literally gave up 31 against GB the week after the Bears and we lost.

How about you get your facts straight and report back instead?

In OT…you’re right. They did give up 31 points.

Completely Daks fault that Christian Watson had his coming out party for multiple TDs and they ran all over us.
 

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In OT…you’re right. They did give up 31 points.

Completely Daks fault that Christian Watson had his coming out party for multiple TDs and they ran all over us.
Actually one of Watsons TDs was directly after a Dak INT.

You're wrong on this one unless you can somehow convince people that turnovers do not hurt defenses.
 

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4 of the 5 games with Rush the defense allowed under 20 points.

The defense has allowed at least 20 points 4 times in the 6 games since Dak came back.

Shoulda checked those stats before jumping in.
Defense was playing lights out, entire team had more cohesion during that time, that cannot be argued.
This team needs to get back to playing with that chemistry again, and I believe we can with some HOFers returning soon.
The return of team leaders' presence comes with some serious respect that will filter and manifest.
This roster needs that now more than ever this season.
 

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Actually one of Watsons TDs was directly after a Dak INT.

You're wrong on this one unless you can somehow convince people that turnovers do not hurt defenses.

Almost every NFL analyst, including Greg Olsen who called the game, said the picks were on the WR/TE.

Not sure why I posted this though…as I’m 100% sure your response will indicate your smarter than all of the NFL players and that both were on Dak.
 

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Almost every NFL analyst, including Greg Olsen who called the game, said the picks were on the WR/TE.

Not sure why I posted this though…as I’m 100% sure your response will indicate your smarter than all of the NFL players and that both were on Dak.
It still amazes me that we have a QB that has never made a bad decision or thrown an INT that was his fault and only have 1 Wild Card win to show for it.
 

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It still amazes me that we have a QB that has never made a bad decision or thrown an INT that was his fault and only have 1 Wild Card win to show for it.

Right on que…

Of course he has. He was trash against TB this year and the 2nd pick against HOU also appeared to be on him.
 

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That's all you can think of? lol

Nope. He’s had a handful of poor throws this year that have led to picks.

But the notion he’s an INT machine and they’re all on him is insane. There have been multiple WR option routes botched, MG fell down on one, and balls that have bounced off WRs hands.

I hate INTs. But when you have aggressive QBs they’re going to happen…and not always at the fault of the QB. Again, go peep the league leaders in INTs. There’s a handful of studs that are in the top 10.
 
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