Are we fooling ourselves hitching our wagon to Tony Romo?

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Hostile;1385563 said:
I am, by far, the biggest QB elitest on this forum. I am all about the pedigree when it comes to QBs. It is the position that I harp on the most. It is the position I coached. I believe you need a good QB to go anywhere.

We are fine with Romo.

He doesn't have a huge arm, but he is accurate, makes good decisions, follows proper progressions on his reads, is smart, athletic, and charismatic so that his team follows him.

Save your hands from wringing and don't pull out your hair.

Oh, and our thoughts on the topic will have nothing to do with whether or not he gets a lucrative, long term contract. I can promise you that. This entire forum could hate him and it wouldn't stop the Cowboys from anything.

Hostile, they should listen to you, all of them. Pedigree is important when you have no other basis to make a decision, but it is always secondary to experience, if available. Romo has demonstrated enough to greatly impress people who can get past their prejudices, I think.
 

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Hostile;1385849 said:
I don't think Carr "would" give Romo a run for his money. Could he? Sure. But I wouldn't hang my hat on it. This is a guy who despite a big contract is going to be pushed aside to make room for Jake Plummer. I think he can be a solid backup at this point. Probably not much more than that. Gary Kubiak is a talented offensive mind who knows QBs. I doubt he'd give up on Carr with no red flags. I think barring a miracle his days as a starter are probably over.

Understood. Valid points all.
 

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cml750;1385577 said:
There is no such thing as a "sure thing" with QB's. I would feel better about Romo if Tuna had let him start the season before last. He should have taken the reigns from Bledsoe much earlier. If he had 1 1/2 to 2 seasons under his belt we would probably know if he is "flash in the pan" or a "sure thing". Bledsoe was a waste of time, in that he was not our QB of the future and he was taking snaps away from someone who may be.

But, next year, we fans will know for sure whether Tony is the real deal or not. We just have to wait throught the 1 1/2 year period. That's tough to take at the 6 month interval, but it has to be done.
 

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WoodysGirl;1385918 said:
It's done every year in the draft. First round QBs get mega bucks before they even sniff the field.

First rounders have promise; Romo showed promise.

The fact that Romo has been in the league for four years and showed he could play with the big boys means he will be rewarded.

I hope not. There's absolutely no need to jump the gun, like we did with Bradie James. If we have to overpay Tony next February, so be it. At least we'll know by then that he's no flash in the pan. Until then, I want to see a lot more from a guy who regressed down the stretch.
 

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FLcowboy;1385950 said:
But, next year, we fans will know for sure whether Tony is the real deal or not. We just have to wait throught the 1 1/2 year period. That's tough to take at the 6 month interval, but it has to be done.

We fans do not have to sign him. Jones and Romo are talking contract now so it is not a matter of if but how much and for what length of time.
 

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TheProphet;1385784 said:
Whatever guy. No reason for insults around here. For the record, the FS connection has absolutely nothing to do with my opinion.
Let me assure everyone that Prophet has no connection whatsoever with Fresno State.
 

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bbgun;1385956 said:
First rounders have promise; Romo showed promise.
First rounders have promise, and get paid based on what teams "think" they can do. But the team have no real knowledge as to whether these guys can play or not.

Romo actually showed promise on the field, so at least Dallas has an idea of what Romo can do before they pay him. So why shouldn't he get paid sooner, rather than later?


I hope not. There's absolutely no need to jump the gun, like we did with Bradie James. If we have to overpay Tony next February, so be it. At least we'll know by then that he's no flash in the pan. Until then, I want to see a lot more from a guy who regressed down the stretch.
That's the chance you take when you pay guys. Be it Romo, Bradie, Roy, or Gurode. They play to get rewarded. They get rewarded and you hope their play continues upward accordingly. Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
 

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WoodysGirl;1385993 said:
First rounders have promise, and get paid based on what teams "think" they can do. But the team have no real knowledge as to whether these guys can play or not.

Romo actually showed promise on the field, so at least Dallas has an idea of what Romo can do before they pay him. So why shouldn't he get paid sooner, rather than later?

Because we're not under the gun; because he's not a holdout threat; because he hasn't earned it. At least James had three years under his belt before Jerry dipped into his wallet. I'd hate to have to pass on Brian Brohm or whomever next April because we panicked and locked up Romo when we absolutely didn't have to. His "audition" has just begun.
 

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bbgun;1386000 said:
Because we're not under the gun; because he's not a holdout threat; because he hasn't earned it. At least James had three years under his belt before Jerry dipped into his wallet. I'd hate to have to pass on Brian Brohm or whomever next April because we panicked and locked up Romo when we absolutely didn't have to. His "audition" has just begun.

Jones is not going to let Romo hit FA. You may not agree with it but they will not wait around and end up bidding on our own QB
 

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bbgun;1386000 said:
Because we're not under the gun; because he's not a holdout threat; because he hasn't earned it. At least James had three years under his belt before Jerry dipped into his wallet. I'd hate to have to pass on Brian Brohm or whomever next April because we panicked and locked up Romo when we absolutely didn't have to. His "audition" has just begun.
Paying a QB in the draft is just as much a crap shoot as paying a QB in a contract year. So you're preference would be to pay an unknown entity rather than pay a known entity. Cuz that's what selecting a QB high in the draft will be. And while his "audition" has just begun, he plays out the year, the cost of doing business goes up.

So no, the team isn't under the gun to sign him, but I don't see them waiting either.
 

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Doomsday101;1386009 said:
Jones is not going to let Romo hit FA. You may not agree with it but they will not wait around and end up bidding on our own QB

You are correct, I believe. I posted this on another thread:

Has everyone forgotten that Romo has all the leverage? He doesn't have to make any deal. After the 2007 season he is a free agent. As a matter of fact, he can refuse any contract he doesn't like and there is nothing the Cowboys can do about it. He seems the kind of guy who has supreme confidence in himself, so he might prefer to play out this coming year and see what he could get from some other club.

Perhaps you think he should bend over for the Cowboys because the club is the one that gave him an opportunity, but it was Parcells, Payton, and Lee who nurtured him, and they are gone. It was not Jones. If it had been up to Jerry Jones, Bledsoe would have never been pulled.

It is silly to talk about low guarantees and performance incentives, or long contracts heavy on the back end for Romo. He may fail. He may not be as great as he thinks he is going to be, but I expect he is willing to risk it and I doubt Jerry Jones is willing to risk Romo's being right. Jones is not going to lose a budding franchise quarterback to another club (and face ridicule) after searching for so long. It is "pay me now or pay me (if you can) later."

So, while I hope Romo will not be greedy, I would bet (if I were a betting man) he will get what he wants; not what Jones wants to give him.
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Doomsday101;1386009 said:
Jones is not going to let Romo hit FA. You may not agree with it but they will not wait around and end up bidding on our own QB

Then sign him to an extension at mid-season or tag him. If he's the real deal, he ain't going anywhere.
 

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bbgun;1386017 said:
Then sign him to an extension at mid-season or tag him. If he's the real deal, he ain't going anywhere.
Even being a rabid Romo fan, this sounds like the best idea to me. There is always the chance that he regresses significantly next season. I don't think it's likely, but there's no real need to lock him up right now.
 

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David Carr sounds like a great backup QB to me. I'll bet we end up with Tommy Maddox, though. Key word: CHEAPER. LOL
 

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I can't believe that no one on this board is keen on CFL All-Star QB Ricky Ray, at least as our backup. This may not be able to happen, though, as I believe he's under contract to the Edmonton Eskimos until 2008. Perhaps we could bring in Maddox until Ricky Ray is freed up for 2008. Thoughts?
 

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philo beddoe;1386173 said:
I can't believe that no one on this board is keen on CFL All-Star QB Ricky Ray, at least as our backup. This may not be able to happen, though, as I believe he's under contract to the Edmonton Eskimos until 2008. Perhaps we could bring in Maddox until Ricky Ray is freed up for 2008. Thoughts?
You've heard our thoughts on this.

He couldn't beat out Quincy Carter in New York with the Jets.

We didn't and don't buy your spin control on this. Guy is an NFL bust. Let him stay in Canada.
 

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bbgun;1386017 said:
Then sign him to an extension at mid-season or tag him. If he's the real deal, he ain't going anywhere.

I don't think anyone wants to deal with contracts in the middle of a season. As for as franchise of transitional tag I could see that if the 2 sides can't agree on a contract. Myself I think Jones and Romo will come to terms on a fair agreement and myself I'm not concerned about Romo talent as a player. The club has watched him the last 4 years and I think they have a good understanding about his talent. This is not to say he will not have off games but then again I don't know of any QB that does not have off games.
 
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