Audio: Jerry Jones lays down the law!!!

[dcfanatic]

Rossum is a CB in name only, where you been? Ogletree was the kickoff returner in the KC game. Then they picked up Rossum to be the returner. Now Rossum is hurt. You think maybe the odds have turned in Ogletree's favor to be active again?

Ogeltree was the returner in KC because Austin took over for Roy.

AND because Felix was down. That's the key.

Now Felix is back and he's the #1 kick returner.

So we should be seeing Williams or Hamlin because we need defensive special teamers, not returners or a 5th WR.

And for the record I love Ogletree.

 

[dbair1967]

I hate Jerry Jones

I heard the feeling was mutual.

 

[silver]

I loved it how he emphasised that "the General Manager has final say and that the owner can overule the GM, and that always been the case, always." He also went on to point out that during the Parcells tenure that was the case, but when pressed to give an example during Jimmy's tenure he wouldnt cite one.

Interesting that he comes out firing this out after a 2 game winning streak. I actually find it funny that he has to defend himself and cares too much about his perception as a "football guy". Oh well, it's not as if I'm surprised or anything, I know he's been the head coach ever since Jimmy got fired with the exception of the Parcells tenure.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Yea i agree, but shouldn’t a coach with 30 years football experience be making those calls? If he can’t, then he shouldn’t be the coach.

Well Jeff Fisher wants to play Kerry Collins over Vince Young. I mean I see what you're saying and I agree but as of right now I don't see it as a problem for the simple fact that our core positions are filled. The positions we live and die by aren't being hurt by this. Some coaches are just reluctant to play young players because they feel more comfortable with the vets. It happens a lot round this league and happened a lot with Parcells.

 

[Alexander]

He also talked that the GM makes the personnel decisions and that the Owner is the only person who can overrule the GM. What I find interesting about this comment is that it leave room for that the GM could one day be different than the Owner.

It will be a cold day in hell before there is any "room" for a GM as long as Jerry Jones is the owner.

"Do you know anyone that owns something and doesn't make all the calls? If you wrote a 80 million dollar check, wouldn't you make the call?" Good one Jerry, set these people strait.

Yes, set us "strait". And keep losing those playoff games, Jerry. It's your money, your team. We just put up with it and will continue to do so and you know it.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I loved it how he emphasised that "the General Manager has final say and that the owner can overule the GM, and that always been the case, always." He also went on to point out that during the Parcells tenure that was the case, but when pressed to give an example during Jimmy's tenure he wouldnt cite one.

Interesting that he comes out firing this out after a 2 game winning streak. I actually find it funny that he has to defend himself and cares too much about his perception as a "football guy". Oh well, it's not as if I'm surprised or anything, I know he's been the head coach ever since Jimmy got fired with the exception of the Parcells tenure.

Head coach in what sense? Because he sure as hell isn't calling defensive or offensive plays and he has nothing to do with special teams. Personnel decisions? Maybe but that's such a small percentage of a head coaches job.

 

[Doomsday101]

He was "convinced". That doesn't mean he had the right idea all along. Even he stated how anguished he was over the decision. In retrospect, it was a no-brainer move. Thankfully, Stephen Jones (and Garrett or whomever) was forceful and persuasive enough.

True but at least he is willing to listen and change course if need be. Instead of holding firm and not listening.

 

[dcfanatic]

Yeah, we have a few in here who do this kind of thing.

And a few who actually disregard what the man actually says and then just come up with some BS line that he just wants us to give him credit.

You are losing it.

Jerry Jones doesn't have to say one thing and do the other.

He's the boss. So he's doing exactly what he says he's doing.

 

[speedkilz88]

Ogeltree was the returner in KC because Austin took over for Roy.

AND because Felix was down. That's the key.

Now Felix is back and he's the #1 kick returner.

So we should be seeing Williams or Hamlin because we need defensive special teamers, not returners or a 5th WR.

And for the record I love Ogletree.

Felix is still wearing a brace so they might still want to go with someone else.

Austin is also a starter now so he can't be one of the returners.

They seem to do just fine without Williams or Hamlin last week when they chose a returner over them.

 

[Alexander]

I loved it how he emphasised that "the General Manager has final say and that the owner can overule the GM, and that always been the case, always." He also went on to point out that during the Parcells tenure that was the case, but when pressed to give an example during Jimmy's tenure he wouldnt cite one.

Because he knows Coach Johnson would call him out on it.

Interesting that he comes out firing this out after a 2 game winning streak.

Not interesting. Just predictable. He's riding high after the big win which he stated was a must win statement game. He's also undoubtedly coasting on a wave of ephoria about Austin, who I am sure he'll claim he was right about all along. Nevermind that we wouldn't have known who he was were it not for Brian Gaine, the scouting staff and some Jersey connections.

I actually find it funny that he has to defend himself and cares too much about his perception as a "football guy". Oh well, it's not as if I'm surprised or anything, I know he's been the head coach ever since Jimmy got fired with the exception of the Parcells tenure.

He's always been insecure about his place in the football world. He's been driven to prove naysayers wrong. He's been that way since he was labelled a backwaters hillbilly when he bought the team.

He's desperate to be considered one of the all-time greats. But he isn't satisfied at being a great owner. He wants to be known as the architect as well. It is quite sad really.

 

[Hypnotoad]

Jerry Jones doesn't have to say one thing and do the other.

He's the boss. So he's doing exactly what he says he's doing.

I guess we can never find instances where jerry jones contradicted himself by his actions and by what he says in the media. Oh wait...

Jerry: We are not trading for Roy Williams

 

[speedkilz88]

And a few who actually disregard what the man actually says and then just come up with some BS line that he just wants us to give him credit.

You are losing it.

Jerry Jones doesn't have to say one thing and do the other.

He's the boss. So he's doing exactly what he says he's doing.

You really need to stop dude.

 

[Alexander]

True but at least he is willing to listen and change course if need be. Instead of holding firm and not listening.

So we should be thankful he just listens? Or should we be thankful for the times he did listen and ignore the times he didn't?

What successful GM doesn't listen? Oh yes, the unemployed ones.

 

[tecolote]

Ultimately, you are right. Most of the known decisions that were taken credit for by Jerry ended up as duds. In recent memory, I don't recall a single one being a success.

Whats frightening is a situation such as Brad Johnson can arise. A situation where a person recommends a horrible player and other staff agree and the ultimate POOR decision is made by the GM. Even the fans knew he was washed up. The decision makers (I think: garrett jerry on this one) didn't until it was too late.

Parcells wanted Spears at 11 in the draft, Jerry overruled him and we got Ware at 11 and Spears later in the draft, I'd say that was a successs.

Remember when Jimmy wanted Walsh to start and Jerry overruled him with Aikman.

He is the GM, he takes so much flak from everyone about everything that goes wrong that he deserves credit when something goes right. We have a very talented roster right now, that's on the GM, unfortunatelly I don't like our coach, that's on the GM too.

 

[Doomsday101]

Jerry has never been so adament about letting us know he makes the final decisions on who plays from week to week.

Stop being naive.

Be a fan. Not a homer.

Not being a Homer it is the truth Jerry has said on many different occasions he is the final say, sorry if you had your head up your butt. It is and has been no secret at all about Jerry from the day he bought the team and said he would be involved from the socks to the Jocks. I don't know what hole you have been in.

 

[Alexander]

I guess we can never find instances where jerry jones contradicted himself by his actions and by what he says in the media. Oh wait...

Jerry: We are not trading for Roy Williams

He's not running a shell game here. He's not out to convince anyone he's really not in charge but saying he is.

He's actually selling himself, not being coy about a trading scenario. There is a fairly large difference.

 

[craig71]

I don't think the OP sentiments have any bearing on how Jerry is going to conduct business.Afterall it is his business to operate as he sees fit and his decisions will ultimately decide the fate of this organization for better or worse.The one thing about Jerry is that he has never been afraid of high risks or the potential hazards that come with those risks.In making some of the decisions that he's made there is bound to be controversy,that controversy is magnified by the fact that this team has not won a playoff game in over a decade.For better or worse Jerry is not going anywhere so people better just deal with it or move on.Maybe Jerrys' antagonists should form an investment group and buy their own franchise if they don't like this organizations current owner/GM.

Craig

 

[poke]

is this really news to anyone who has followed this team since Jerry bought it?

 

[Doomsday101]

One other thing that is no secret is Jerry has made Stephen more and more active in the day to day operations of this team.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Parcells wanted Spears at 11 in the draft, Jerry overruled him and we got Ware at 11 and Spears later in the draft, I'd say that was a successs.

Remember when Jimmy wanted Walsh to start and Jerry overruled him with Aikman.

He is the GM, he takes so much flak from everyone about everything that goes wrong that he deserves credit when something goes right. We have a very talented roster right now, that's on the GM, unfortunatelly I don't like our coach, that's on the GM too.

Great examples. Especially on that Ware pick. I mean the Aikman was great too but i'm not sure how credible that is. It may be true but i'm just not sure. But the Ware and Spears thing was a great move on Jerry's part. And it makes sense why we got Carpenter is a Dallas Cowboy. We all have hit and misses but you can't afford to hit and miss like that in the 1st round. Nothing against Spears but we ended up getting him at 20.