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theebs;1725318 said:
well I will just keep my opinions to myself then.

I was there. It was pretty loud when the defense was out there. The fans were quiet when it came to the offense having the ball. The crowd did try to start the wave, but as soon as it hit the 40-50 yard line on the visitor side, it died.

Now, being from Detroit and hearing the crowds here, it was slightly embarrassing. Also, many of the fans did not want to stand up during the game during the important moments. I was rather disappointed, but I am not sure why the locals are not into the game. I certainly would compare Dallas to LA, not even close....
 

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Taps-n-1;1726384 said:
Yeaaaaaa, stupid, boring Cowboy fans!
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Nice!

Actually, after reading through this thread, I think I have an idea of what it might be. It's probably because when I go to the game, I usually am at the 30 yard line, lower level. I'm thinking that if the stadium is like any other NFL stadium I've been to, the rowdy, face-painted fans are probably upper level and end zone and not where I am. In fact, last time I went, the woman sitting next to me had a rock on her finger the size of Texas.
 

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anyways back to my point ....i was very dissatified with the texas turn out....i have heard about the fair weather fans from texas before but i just had to see it to beleive it....well if anyone wants to come up to the swamp in jersey and root with me and some others you are more then welcome......the more the merrier....
 

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Does anybody think it has anything to do with the stuffiness and heat of the stadium?



When I went once in September it was like a sana in there.Another time in December I took my jacket but once I got to my seat I started feeling hot and took it off.

I've been to plenty of games at Kyle Field in September although it's hot at least you can feel a breeze.
 

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It took me awhile to chime in sorry I'm late...Well this seems to be the Problem maybe the fans who have the better seats are not the true fans and were giving tickets, We who are the ones who eat drink sleep Cowboys, who also post on message boards, But when you see people coming in with 5 minuets left in the first half ( 50 yard line seats ) you know there's something wrong.
Also I concur the best Cowboy fans do not live in Dallas they are in the outskirts of Dallas, Texas obviously but the East Coast for sure. Those of you who have moved from back east to Dallas don't count as a Dallas Fan base Because you were brain washed just like the rest of us east coasters, That's were you originally started So I don't accept the I'm a Dallas resident. You were an east coaster first, Or from some were else but not from Dallas. Also do you realize that there are over 4 tour groups who own over 300 season tix. at a minimum. Where are all these people coming from ? NOT DALLAS!!!!!
Very spoiled fans there for sure. Look I like The people of Dallas, Very friendly and have no problem with them at all, Its just that the Cowboys deserve well in my opinion more love.....The one of the best if not the best sports franchises in the world. But hey what can you do the debate lives on. Also just a side note the city of Dallas is really not liked much in Texas because it tries to emulate NYC ( you know metroplex not country ) This is what I have heard .....and the city of Irving is really pissed with the Cowboys ( cause of the move )
anyways GO BOYS
 

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ilovejerry;1728408 said:
Also just a side note the city of Dallas is really not liked much in Texas because it tries to emulate NYC ( you know metroplex not country ) This is what I have heard .....and the city of Irving is really pissed with the Cowboys ( cause of the move )
anyways GO BOYS

Then you heard incorrectly. There are very few similarities between Dallas and New York City. And regarding the topic of showing our Cowboys the necessary "love," perhaps you should research the amount of consecutive sellout games at Texas Stadium versus stadiums on the east coast. I would venture the numbers are comparable.
 

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ScipioCowboy;1728429 said:
Then you heard incorrectly. There are very few similarities between Dallas and New York City.

You made my point, As much as the City of Dallas tries to be a "big city" ( think in terms of mentality) . It alienates the core of Texas and the Cowboy/Rancher way. If I have to explain then you don't live in Dallas.


And regarding the topic of showing our Cowboys the necessary "love," perhaps you should research the amount of consecutive sellout games at Texas Stadium versus stadiums on the east coast. I would venture the numbers are comparable.

Really do you have the proper statistics? As If you know when Jerry has to buy up the remaining tickets so he doesn't have the black out effect. Please Maybe When Parcels was hired but I know the last 5-10 years before him there was no sellouts and again the fans from outside Dallas supports that team GREATLY!!!!! hence AMERICAS TEAM.
 

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ilovejerry;1728438 said:
Really do you have the proper statistics? As If you know when Jerry has to buy up the remaining tickets so he doesn't have the black out effect. Please Maybe When Parcels was hired but I know the last 5-10 years before him there was no sellouts and again the fans from outside Dallas supports that team GREATLY!!!!! hence AMERICAS TEAM.

You just made my point. You're making statements for which you have absolutely no support. Your posts are nothing more but emply bluster and bravado with an east coast twist. How do you know Jerry was forced to "buy up remaining tickets?" As you've already demonstrated, you've performed absolutely no research regarding ticket sales; ergo, you're hardly qualified to judge the fan support at Texas Stadium.
 

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ScipioCowboy;1728444 said:
You just made my point. You're making statements for which you have absolutely no support. Your posts are nothing more but emply bluster and bravado with an east coast twist. How do you know Jerry was forced to "buy up remaining tickets?" As you've already demonstrated, you've performed absolutely no research regarding ticket sales; ergo, you're hardly qualified to judge the fan support at Texas Stadium.


How do you know he didnt. Hmmmmmm Do you know him or anyone in his family hmmmmm,
Please you make no sense, Your defending what? I and mostly all these other posters already know the obvious. Im going to explain, so you U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D. Listen now and read aloud if it helps. Do yourself a favor and sit and be quite when Romo has the ball and cheer when you see the other team with the ball. Other team meaning the team that is not wearing the helmet with the stars.OK ?
:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:
 

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ilovejerry;1728446 said:
How do you know he didnt. Hmmmmmm Do you know him or anyone in his family hmmmmm,
Please you make no sense, Your defending what? I and mostly all these other posters already know the obvious. Im going to explain, so you U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D. Listen now and read aloud if it helps. Do yourself a favor and sit and be quite when Romo has the ball and cheer when you see the other team with the ball. Other team meaning the team that is not wearing the helmet with the stars.OK ?
:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:


Interesting logic.

It seems the same questions could be applied to you: How do you know Jerry did "buy up remaining tickets?" Do you know him or anyone in his family?

If fact, it seems the questions are more applicable to you than me. After all, you're the one making unsubstantiated generalizations and demonstrating a complete inability to support his argument.

:laugh2:

Here's some advice: If you dislike being pressed for evidence when you have none, I suggest you stop making baseless arguments. And you should probably note that neither empty bravado nor a misplaced sense of self-righteousness are adequate substitutes for evidence.

Weren't you taught this on the east coast?:D
 

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Then you heard incorrectly. Your first mistake is assuming I heard incorrectly . Why because your Wrong ! I heard perfectly I don't have a comprehension problem like you . There are very few similarities between Dallas and New York City. Right But to a simpleton like yourself it all looks the same, big city, lights, crowds, traffic, big business- Too a small-ville person any type of change would warrant a comparison and if you think I'm the only one who has heard that Dallas isn't like the rest of Texas your sadly mistaken. NO it isn't like NYC nothing is its the greatest CITY, In the world ( IMHO) And regarding the topic of showing our Cowboys the necessary "love," perhaps you should research the amount of consecutive sellout games at Texas Stadium versus stadiums on the east coast. I would venture the numbers are comparable. You have no clue what your talking about this isn't about sell outs this is about the greatest football franchise in history. Who are they supposed to be comparable too ? There the best and they should be treated like the best not only when there winning but a fair weather fan like yourself wouldn't know that

It seems the same questions could be applied to you: How do you know Jerry did "buy up remaining tickets?" Do you know him or anyone in his family?

Its none of your business who I know , its another matter of what I know. and I know you have no idea of what your saying.

If fact, it seems the questions are more applicable to you than me.

Of course in your brain you would think that. After all, you're the one making unsubstantiated generalizations and demonstrating a complete inability to support his argument.
Yes myself and most of the people who posted on this thread. I don't know what the argument is at this point. Its rather an opinion mega-tron,
your the best-est Dallas cowboy fan in the world , yippiee just keep on supporting them,

:laugh2:

Here's some advice: If you dislike being pressed for evidence when you have none, I suggest you stop making baseless arguments. And you should probably note that neither empty bravado nor a misplaced sense of self-righteousness are adequate substitutes for evidenc



Weren't you taught this on the east coast?:D[/quote]



I was also taught loose lips shink ships.
 

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ilovejerry;1728446 said:
How do you know he didnt. Hmmmmmm Do you know him or anyone in his family hmmmmm,
Please you make no sense, Your defending what? I and mostly all these other posters already know the obvious. Im going to explain, so you U-N-D-E-R-S-T-A-N-D. Listen now and read aloud if it helps. Do yourself a favor and sit and be quite when Romo has the ball and cheer when you see the other team with the ball. Other team meaning the team that is not wearing the helmet with the stars.OK ?
:bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

AHHHHHHHH!!!!! so he is the guy that romo tells to quiet it down when comming out of the huddle....hahahahahaha:laugh2: :laugh1:
 

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CowboyJeff;1726172 said:
How often do you go, where do you sit, and which games do you see? Those are all big factors in your stadium noise experience.

I don't go as much as i would like to..... I usually get to a game a year and sit near the players tunnel.... I've also been in the upper deck endzone.....
 

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ilovejerry;1728470 said:
Then you heard incorrectly. Your first mistake is assuming I heard incorrectly . Why because your Wrong ! I heard perfectly I don't have a comprehension problem like you . There are very few similarities between Dallas and New York City. Right But to a simpleton like yourself it all looks the same, big city, lights, crowds, traffic, big business- Too a small-ville person any type of change would warrant a comparison and if you think I'm the only one who has heard that Dallas isn't like the rest of Texas your sadly mistaken. NO it isn't like NYC nothing is its the greatest CITY, In the world ( IMHO) And regarding the topic of showing our Cowboys the necessary "love," perhaps you should research the amount of consecutive sellout games at Texas Stadium versus stadiums on the east coast. I would venture the numbers are comparable. You have no clue what your talking about this isn't about sell outs this is about the greatest football franchise in history. Who are they supposed to be comparable too ? There the best and they should be treated like the best not only when there winning but a fair weather fan like yourself wouldn't know that

It seems the same questions could be applied to you: How do you know Jerry did "buy up remaining tickets?" Do you know him or anyone in his family?

Its none of your business who I know , its another matter of what I know. and I know you have no idea of what your saying.

If fact, it seems the questions are more applicable to you than me.

Of course in your brain you would think that. After all, you're the one making unsubstantiated generalizations and demonstrating a complete inability to support his argument.
Yes myself and most of the people who posted on this thread. I don't know what the argument is at this point. Its rather an opinion mega-tron,
your the best-est Dallas cowboy fan in the world , yippiee just keep on supporting them,

:laugh2:

Here's some advice: If you dislike being pressed for evidence when you have none, I suggest you stop making baseless arguments. And you should probably note that neither empty bravado nor a misplaced sense of self-righteousness are adequate substitutes for evidenc



Weren't you taught this on the east coast?:D



I was also taught loose lips shink ships.[/quote]

I can tell you that Jerry (or someone within the organization) purchases remaining tickets right before the blackout deadline. Jerry wants every Cowboys game seen on local TV. There's no coincidence the Cowboys were never blacked out from 2000-2002 despite large blocks of empty seats in the stadium.
 

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ilovejerry;1728470 said:
Then you heard incorrectly. Your first mistake is assuming I heard incorrectly . Why because your Wrong ! I heard perfectly I don't have a comprehension problem like you . There are very few similarities between Dallas and New York City. Right But to a simpleton like yourself it all looks the same, big city, lights, crowds, traffic, big business- Too a small-ville person any type of change would warrant a comparison and if you think I'm the only one who has heard that Dallas isn't like the rest of Texas your sadly mistaken. NO it isn't like NYC nothing is its the greatest CITY, In the world ( IMHO) And regarding the topic of showing our Cowboys the necessary "love," perhaps you should research the amount of consecutive sellout games at Texas Stadium versus stadiums on the east coast. I would venture the numbers are comparable. You have no clue what your talking about this isn't about sell outs this is about the greatest football franchise in history. Who are they supposed to be comparable too ? There the best and they should be treated like the best not only when there winning but a fair weather fan like yourself wouldn't know that

It seems the same questions could be applied to you: How do you know Jerry did "buy up remaining tickets?" Do you know him or anyone in his family?

Its none of your business who I know , its another matter of what I know. and I know you have no idea of what your saying.

If fact, it seems the questions are more applicable to you than me.

Of course in your brain you would think that. After all, you're the one making unsubstantiated generalizations and demonstrating a complete inability to support his argument.
Yes myself and most of the people who posted on this thread. I don't know what the argument is at this point. Its rather an opinion mega-tron,
your the best-est Dallas cowboy fan in the world , yippiee just keep on supporting them,

:laugh2:

Here's some advice: If you dislike being pressed for evidence when you have none, I suggest you stop making baseless arguments. And you should probably note that neither empty bravado nor a misplaced sense of self-righteousness are adequate substitutes for evidenc



Weren't you taught this on the east coast?:D



I was also taught loose lips sink ships.[/quote]
sorry I wrote this at...... I dont even now what time it was, shinks ( man you know your getting older when you wake up to find a post that you did during the night and go ..........ewwwwwwwwww)
 

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ilovejerry;1728470 said:
I don't know what the argument is at this point

This fact will become more and more apparent as we move foward in our discussion.


Your first mistake is assuming I heard incorrectly . Why because your Wrong ! I heard perfectly I don't have a comprehension problem like you .

Insisting you don't have a comprehension problem when you just stated "you don't what the argument is" is truly ironic, especially considering that you started the argument.

There are very few similarities between Dallas and New York City. Right But to a simpleton like yourself it all looks the same, big city, lights, crowds, traffic, big business- Too a small-ville person any type of change would warrant a comparison and if you think I'm the only one who has heard that Dallas isn't like the rest of Texas your sadly mistaken. NO it isn't like NYC nothing is its the greatest CITY, In the world ( IMHO)

This statement is a mass of contradiction. The name calling suggests anger was clouding your judgment as you typed it.

Initially, you intimated that Dallas tries to emulate NYC. I rebutted your claim, stating that the differences between Dallas and NYC were many and varied. Your rebuttal above makes absolutely no sense.

If all cities really did appear identical to a "simpleton like myself," why would I have challenged your statement about Dallas and New York? Wouldn't I have made a statement more akin to this:

"Uhu, uhu. You city folk is all alike. You cities is so big and confusin' to us simple country folk. But it's a good thing you here 'cause we's don' know when to root for those Cowboys. Is they on defense when that Tony Romo-fella's on the field? Is that when me and all my 15 chillins' can get loud like we at the goat roapin' festival?"

If I really thought all cities looked identical, isn't it more likely I would've agreed with your assessment and expressed nothing but contempt and disdain for the city of Dallas?

Think about it.

I must be perfectly honest with you, ilovejerry. Even if you did understand the argument, it likely wouldn't help you, given your penchant for baseless generalizations, poorly contrived rebuttals, and self-contradiction.

Let's just say your debate skills are somewhat questionable.

You should also know I'm well-versed in city life. I know all about the lights, the annoying traffic, and the large centers of commerce. I grew up in Austin, Texas; I lived in St. Louis for 2 and 1/2 years; and, I visit Dallas and Houston frequently.

And yes, Dallas isn't always like the "rest of Texas," but neither is Austin, Houston, San Antonio, or any other city. They're all unique, and they all have their own personalities. Texas is a very diverse state, so don't confuse "uniqueness" and "diversity" with a desire to emulate New York.


You have no clue what your talking about this isn't about sell outs this is about the greatest football franchise in history. Who are they supposed to be comparable too

The number of sellouts is relevent because it provides a point of comparison between fans on the east coast and fan in Texas. It would provide some measure of evidence--a necessary component when criticizing and making sweeping generalizations about the people in Dallas.

Not providing any evidence is certainly your perogative, but you shouldn't get snippy when the baseless, unfounded nature of your claim is exposed.

There the best and they should be treated like the best not only when there winning but a fair weather fan like yourself wouldn't know that

Fairweather fan, eh?

When I lived in St. Louis, the Cowboys fielded some bad teams. But each and every Sunday, I would trek over to Ozzies (the local sports bar) and watch my beloved Cowboys get shellacked. At a lonely bar stool I would sit until the last second of a 30 point blowout loss ticked off the clock with a glassy perpexled look on my face, enduring relentless and merciless heckling from Rams' fans, Steelers' fan, and all manner of non-Cowboy affiliated fans. Mind you, I don't drink, so I had absolutely nothing to ease the pain.

Its none of your business who I know , its another matter of what I know. and I know you have no idea of what your saying.

Yet it's your business with whom I associate? You're the one who brought up this whole issue of knowing Jerry and his family. Your statement above is a trifle disingenuous, don't you think?


I was also taught loose lips shink ships.

Were you taught anything about baseless generalizations?
 
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