Bob Papa: Burress Is “Deathly Afraid” Of Going To Jail

rational thought has no place in the punishment of criminals.

they all deserve to die, break the law and you will die.

I am the law!
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Four;2791783 said:
rational thought has no place in the punishment of criminals.

they all deserve to die, break the law and you will die.

I am the law!
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No body saying Burris should be killed only face the same law as everyone else.
 
Doomsday101;2791788 said:
No body saying Burris should be killed only face the same law as everyone else.


the law is stupid


not using a celebrity to help impact kids is stupid.

yes, it's special treatment, but dudes like plax can help a kid find the right path.

It's way bigger than some law, I want people out there helping, not in a cell doing no good at all.
 
Four;2791798 said:
the law is stupid


not using a celebrity to help impact kids is stupid.

yes, it's special treatment, but dudes like plax can help a kid find the right path.

It's way bigger than some law, I want people out there helping, not in a cell doing no good at all.

Your opinion it is a stupid law but it is the law and if broken then that is the price you pay. As for helping kids give me a break all you are doing is letting a celebrity get a break that would not be given to others of less stature. If Plax wants to help kids then he can do that after he gets out if he truly wants to help others, if all you are doing is giving him a free ride then he will do it but all for the wrong reason.
 
Doomsday101;2791806 said:
Your opinion it is a stupid law but it is the law and if broken then that is the price you pay. As for helping kids give me a break all you are doing is letting a celebrity get a break that would not be given to others of less stature. If Plax wants to help kids then he can do that after he gets out if he truly wants to help others, if all you are doing is giving him a free ride then he will do it but all for the wrong reason.


thing is man,it's not about any of that.

if plax can put one kid on the right path, it is worth it.

I am a teacher, I can't reach them all, never will, but if I reach one, it's a big friggen deal.

he can't help inside, and "the man" wins.

I don't see the good in him being put inside, I just don't.

whether he wants to or not plays no part in whether he could help kids get their minds right.
 
Four;2790431 said:
no they wouldn't

lawyers are paid very well to do what they do, it's a money thing.

I wish plax the best and don't think he should do time, I mean for cripes sake the guy shot himself in the leg.

That's enough, imo.

I agree in principle, however, the law is the law.
 
Four;2791812 said:
thing is man,it's not about any of that.

if plax can put one kid on the right path, it is worth it.

I am a teacher, I can't reach them all, never will, but if I reach one, it's a big friggen deal.

he can't help inside, and "the man" wins.

I don't see the good in him being put inside, I just don't.

whether he wants to or not plays no part in whether he could help kids get their minds right.

If he cares about putting a kid on the right path then he can do that when he gets out if he is doing it because he has to then it is nothing but a load of BS. He is not special and deserves what anyone else would get for the same crime and it is a crime regardless if you agree with the law or not. Evidently you must think kids are stupid because the only thing they will get out of it is that if you are well known you play by a different set of rules than everyone else.
 
Go to Jail. Go directly to jail, do not serve 2 month, serve the whole ****ing sentence! :laugh2:
 
Four;2791798 said:
the law is stupid


not using a celebrity to help impact kids is stupid.

yes, it's special treatment, but dudes like plax can help a kid find the right path.

It's way bigger than some law, I want people out there helping, not in a cell doing no good at all.

If Burress really wanted to help put kids on the right path, he would have been out there doing it his whole NFL career.

He was given a choice between facing big time or a 2 month sentence and 1500 hours community service (helping kids get on the right path.)

He chose to take his chances.

Screw him.
 
Doomsday101;2791852 said:
If he cares about putting a kid on the right path then he can do that when he gets out if he is doing it because he has to then it is nothing but a load of BS. He is not special and deserves what anyone else would get for the same crime and it is a crime regardless if you agree with the law or not. Evidently you must think kids are stupid because the only thing they will get out of it is that if you are well known you play by a different set of rules than everyone else.


we have a finite life, I wish we didn't but we do.

those 3.5 years would better serve society if he wasn't sitting in a cinder block room with no windows.

doesn't help a soul, and a guy like plax will walk out of prison saying to himself that he "has done enough time"

he won't help then, not at all.

we can use his celebrity or we can be foolish with the power we have now.

I am pretty tired of us being foolish. I want the guy to do a service to society, he owes us, he can't do a thing in a cell.
 
Four;2791925 said:
we have a finite life, I wish we didn't but we do.

those 3.5 years would better serve society if he wasn't sitting in a cinder block room with no windows.

doesn't help a soul, and a guy like plax will walk out of prison saying to himself that he "has done enough time"

he won't help then, not at all.

we can use his celebrity or we can be foolish with the power we have now.

I am pretty tired of us being foolish. I want the guy to do a service to society, he owes us, he can't do a thing in a cell.

Sorry he is the same as anyone else and does not deserve special treatment the law is the law and should be abided by all or none this ideal that he is going to enlighten a kid all he will do is point out that celebrities do not have to pay the price as anyone else that is not a lesson I care for kids to get. It is pretty cut and dry on how to stay out of trouble Plax created this problem for himself with no one else to blame and should suffer the consequences of his own actions
 
Four;2791925 said:
we have a finite life, I wish we didn't but we do.

those 3.5 years would better serve society if he wasn't sitting in a cinder block room with no windows.

doesn't help a soul, and a guy like plax will walk out of prison saying to himself that he "has done enough time"

he won't help then, not at all.

we can use his celebrity or we can be foolish with the power we have now.

I am pretty tired of us being foolish. I want the guy to do a service to society, he owes us, he can't do a thing in a cell.
Why can't he do both?
 
Four;2791798 said:
the law is stupid


not using a celebrity to help impact kids is stupid.

yes, it's special treatment, but dudes like plax can help a kid find the right path.

It's way bigger than some law, I want people out there helping, not in a cell doing no good at all.

Four;2791812 said:
thing is man,it's not about any of that.

if plax can put one kid on the right path, it is worth it.

I am a teacher, I can't reach them all, never will, but if I reach one, it's a big friggen deal.

he can't help inside, and "the man" wins.

I don't see the good in him being put inside, I just don't.

whether he wants to or not plays no part in whether he could help kids get their minds right.


Interesting...the guy has shown no regard to being a good example, or helping kids, to this point, he's turned down an offer that would have allowed him plenty of time, as part of the deal, to help people with community service and such, because he doesn't want to have to do that, and you think, all of the sudden, he's just going to change his mind and decide he wants to help some kids find the right path?

It's a great dream, and I don't doubt it would be nice if he helps one person get right, but the thing is this. The guy actually has to, you know, what to help.

If he doesn't want to, he's not going to, and thus he's doing zero good for anyone. You can say they can force him to do this but he's already been handed a deal that would have gotten him significant less time in jail and community service and he turned it down because he wants no jail time and he doesn't want to have to give up a bunch of time to community service either.

Yet, somehow, you seem to think he's going to go out and help kids get on the right path when he has no intention of having to do any of that.
 
Four;2791925 said:
we have a finite life, I wish we didn't but we do.

those 3.5 years would better serve society if he wasn't sitting in a cinder block room with no windows.

doesn't help a soul, and a guy like plax will walk out of prison saying to himself that he "has done enough time"

he won't help then, not at all.

we can use his celebrity or we can be foolish with the power we have now.

I am pretty tired of us being foolish. I want the guy to do a service to society, he owes us, he can't do a thing in a cell.

I honestly believe that most kids would be able to see through the lip service that Plax would be paying them.

They can tell when a famous athlete is doing something to avoid time as opposed to when one is genuine.
 
All of that posturing from Giants fans about how he wouldn't go to jail was hilarious. Looks like Plaxico is just as delusional as those people were. There is no way out of this without SOME jail time.
 
Four;2791812 said:
thing is man,it's not about any of that.

if plax can put one kid on the right path, it is worth it.

I am a teacher, I can't reach them all, never will, but if I reach one, it's a big friggen deal.

he can't help inside, and "the man" wins.

I don't see the good in him being put inside, I just don't.

whether he wants to or not plays no part in whether he could help kids get their minds right.

Plax can't even put him self on the right path, if he could we wouldn't be having this discussion... :rolleyes:

what exactly is he going to teach kids if he him self is unwilling to learn from and take responsibility for his own actions?
 
interestedobserver;2790952 said:
And yet, if he had done this in Dallas, he wouldn't even be charged with a crime.

Wrong. Carrying a weapon, concealed, in any state without a CCW, is illegal.
As it stands, your permit obtained in New Mexico will not be valid in the state of Indiana, let's say. There are currently four states allowing the validity of the CCW to be transferred across state lines.

Four;2790962 said:
ding ding ding, we have a winner

No you don't...............read my above factiod. KNOW your laws before you decide on who get's what. Half-cocked liberals................jack of all knowledge, master at none.

Ren;2790967 said:
I do believe carrying an illegal firearm is... illegal everywhere even if the punishment varies.

We aren't conversing "illegal" weapons. We're explicitly on the subject of "concealed' weapons. Without a CCW. HUGE difference.

Four;2790981 said:
no I actually do, half the folks in prison shouldn't be there.

Half? Seriously? Wow. FOUR for president!!! Kinda catchy actually..........


SaltwaterServr;2791540 said:
You are so far off it isn't even funny. If he walks into a club, even with his controlled handgun license, and shoots himself in the leg anywhere in Texas he'll do jail time.

What is a controlled handgun license?


SaltwaterServr;2791540 said:
New York has enacted these laws to protect its citizenry from idiots like Plaxico. Many of those faced with the same infraction of possessing an unregistered firearm are only prosecuted for charges that do not include mandatory jail time.

Possessing an un-registered firearm is a whole different gig from carrying a weapon concealed, without a concealed carry weapon's permit. The punshiment would be far worse if one decided upon combining the two. But I guarantee you they'll hit you with both for the original offense.


SaltwaterServr;2791540 said:
The fact of the matter is that Plaxico was in a crowded public establisment, drinking (brings us back to the DWI mentioned earlier) most likely, and fired a pistol. Of all the great luck in the world, he only shot himself.

Any *ing idiot that brings a pistol into a nightclub where he/she will be drinking needs to have their head examined.

You nailed this one, brother. CCW or not...........use your head!!

Not one post with accuracy concerning why Plaxico was charged. He was carrying a weapon concealed without the permit. All the other charges compound. Shooting himself, etc.

i.e. - 1) You smashed into the house.
................You are driving without a license.
....................Your drunk,
.......................high on meth and
.........................what is that white crap all around your nostrils?




Four;2791081 said:
drugs should be legal, again, if it was legal it would hurt no one but the user

I have yet, in my short-lived life, read anything that was more wrong than this statement. I'm really at a loss............Seriously.

You wouldn't happen to refer to a drug dealer as an "unlicensed pharmacist' would you?


Apologies for the semi-off-topic rant. I become concerned when the discussion on weapons escapes so many. There is a truth out there. If you own a weapon, find that truth and represent with responsibility.

In all of this, folks like Plaxico gives us responsible gun owners a bad rap. The guy can't even bring himself to carry one responsibly, much less use it correctly. He SHOT himself, Mr. Four. If all that ain't a threat to society, I do not know what is.
 
Seven;2792235 said:
Wrong. Carrying a weapon, concealed, in any state without a CCW, is illegal.
As it stands, your permit obtained in New Mexico will not be valid in the state of Indiana, let's say. There are currently four states allowing the validity of the CCW to be transferred across state lines.



No you don't...............read my above factiod. KNOW your laws before you decide on who get's what. Half-cocked liberals................jack of all knowledge, master at none.



We aren't conversing "illegal" weapons. We're explicitly on the subject of "concealed' weapons. Without a CCW. HUGE difference.



Half? Seriously? Wow. FOUR for president!!! Kinda catchy actually..........




What is a controlled handgun license?




Possessing an un-registered firearm is a whole different gig from carrying a weapon concealed, without a concealed carry weapon's permit. The punshiment would be far worse if one decided upon combining the two. But I guarantee you they'll hit you with both for the original offense.




You nailed this one, brother. CCW or not...........use your head!!

Not one post with accuracy concerning why Plaxico was charged. He was carrying a weapon concealed without the permit. All the other charges compound. Shooting himself, etc.

i.e. - 1) You smashed into the house.
................You are driving without a license.
....................Your drunk,
.......................high on meth and
.........................what is that white crap all around your nostrils?






I have yet, in my short-lived life, read anything that was more wrong than this statement. I'm really at a loss............Seriously.

You wouldn't happen to refer to a drug dealer as an "unlicensed pharmacist' would you?


Apologies for the semi-off-topic rant. I become concerned when the discussion on weapons escapes so many. There is a truth out there. If you own a weapon, find that truth and represent with responsibility.

In all of this, folks like Plaxico gives us responsible gun owners a bad rap. The guy can't even bring himself to carry one responsibly, much less use it correctly. He SHOT himself, Mr. Four. If all that ain't a threat to society, I do not know what is.

I cut myself shaving this morning, I am clearly a threat to society.

It's not as cut and dry as you make it.

Your politics make it so you can't see my point.

I see yours, and I agree to a certain extent, but each circumstance is different. Each person is different.

I want something constructive out of plax's mistakes, you don't, you want him in jail and are cool with it because the law is the law.

don't and won't ever share your beliefs, but I am more than willing to discuss my own, and I bet I don't talk down to you in the process of doing so.
 
If I ever get in trouble, I pray that "Four" is either the judge or the jury foreman. His kind of leniency is hard to come by these days.
 

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