Bob Papa: Burress Is “Deathly Afraid” Of Going To Jail

[Four]

Plax shot himself in the leg because the pistol discharged while he was standing and the gun was pointed towards his leg.

If he had been sitting and the gun had been pointing away from his leg, he could have shot someone else.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

I'm in the Army and a negligent discharge can stop a career. Why? Someone can get killed.

ifs and buts don't matter, never have never will.

I forget that little rhyme about it, and it would be condescending if I used it.



if I had appied myself in high school I would be in the nfl now.

doesn't matter.

 

[Four]

good thread whoever started it

 

[Doomsday101]

by the way, at no point did I say what plax did wasn't wrong.

Just that the punishment isn't constructive when weighed against the bigger picture.

I want him to pay, but I want it to help people in the process.

And if he does not want to help others? This get out of jail free card is non-sense because he is well known he has the right to break the law and then get away with it? Sorry it does not fly

 

[Four]

LOL. Where, besides RI and certain counties in Nevada?

prostitution should be legal, government needs to bud out of people's lives.

morality shouldn't be legislated.

people will be what they are regardless of the law.

All dumb laws do is make criminals out of decent folks.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

ifs and buts don't matter, never have never will.

I forget that little rhyme about it, and it would be condescending if I used it.



if I had appied myself in high school I would be in the nfl now.

doesn't matter.

So DUI should not be a punishable offense as long as the drunk doesn't hurt anyone?

 

[Vtwin]

Plax shot himself in the leg because the pistol discharged while he was standing and the gun was pointed towards his leg.

If he had been sitting and the gun had been pointing away from his leg, he could have shot someone else.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

I'm in the Army and a negligent discharge can stop a career. Why? Someone can get killed.

If I remember right he commited the cardinal sin of trying to catch the gun as it was falling from his waistband. Finger hits trigger (glock no external safety), gun goes off. Never try and catch a falling gun.

Just for kicks let say NYC allowed everybody (instead of just the criminals) to carry. Maybe then the weapon would have been carried in an appropriate holster instead of being snuck in ghetto style.

 

[Four]

And if he does not want to help others? This get out of jail free card is non-sense because he is well known he has the right to break the law and then get away with it? Sorry it does not fly

he shot himself in the leg.

I cut myself really badly when I was a kid with my pocket knife, I thought I wasn't going to make it.

The blood just poured out of the wound, I got light headed and passed out.


I would imagine shooting yourself in the leg is 10 times worse.

 

[Vtwin]

LOL. Where, besides RI and certain counties in Nevada?

Hint.

The world doesn't end at the borders of the USA.

The places you mention can just be ignored as irrelevent?

And no retort on the drug thing?

Fail.

 

[dallasfaniac]

donte is a scumbag who took another person's life away.

he ruined a bunch of people's lives because he was selfish and got behind the wheel when he had no business doing so.


nothing related about the two cases, sorry I don't see the link

It isn't supposed to link the two cases, merely trying to link your logic. On one hand you say that we need to take advantage of a player's star appeal to reach kids, but not so on this one. On one hand you say that drugs should be legal because it only hurts the one taking it, but not so on this one. Besides the precedent was started by Leonard Little, getting 3 months and 1000 community service hours for vehicular manslaughter to due impairment. He clearly learned his lesson

 

[bbgun]

Hint.

The world doesn't end at the borders of the USA.

The places you mention can just be ignored as irrelevent?

Um, you explicitly said "in this advanced society." Did you have someone other than the US in mind?

 

[Doomsday101]

he shot himself in the leg.

I cut myself really badly when I was a kid with my pocket knife, I thought I wasn't going to make it.

The blood just poured out of the wound, I got light headed and passed out.


I would imagine shooting yourself in the leg is 10 times worse.

He shot himself in the leg because he is an idiot that does not change anything. What if you hurt yourself you don't have to go to jail? Give me break. He put people at risk acting like a moron he could have easily harmed others when the gun went off and the laws are put in place to deter these type of incident from happening so when people take it upon themselves to break the law they be have to be willing to pay the price.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Four
ifs and buts don't matter, never have never will.

I forget that little rhyme about it, and it would be condescending if I used it.



if I had appied myself in high school I would be in the nfl now.

doesn't matter.

So DUI should not be a punishable offense as long as the drunk doesn't hurt anyone?

Waiting for an answer, Four.

 

[Vtwin]

Um, you explicitly said "in this advanced society." Did you have someone other than the US in mind?

WOW.

We both know my words were in response to this:

that advanced societies

If that's all you got left is to play the semantics game then have it at. I'm guessing most reasonable folks got the drift though.

 

[Four]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Four
ifs and buts don't matter, never have never will.

I forget that little rhyme about it, and it would be condescending if I used it.



if I had appied myself in high school I would be in the nfl now.

doesn't matter.

So DUI should not be a punishable offense as long as the drunk doesn't hurt anyone?

Waiting for an answer, Four.

you guys makes some random leaps to suit your opinion.

dui is wrong, what plax did was wrong.

I get where your coming from, in that both put people's lives at risk.

I agree with your point, I just don't think it applies here.

 

[Vtwin]

I kinda like this guy.

I'm real surpised at the beating your taking here. Keep up the good work.

 

[Four]

I'm not, we are a conservative fan base.


I dig conservatives, world needs both sides.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

you guys makes some random leaps to suit your opinion.

dui is wrong, what plax did was wrong.

I get where your coming from, in that both put people's lives at risk.

I agree with your point, I just don't think it applies here.

So, um when does it apply?

Dude discharged a firearm in a crowded nightclub. Fortunately, he discharged it into his own leg and not someone else.

 

[bbgun]

I'm real surpised at the beating your taking here.

Maybe because most people don't want to live a modern-day Sodom and Gomorrah. Imagine that.

 

[Four]

So, um when does it apply?

Dude discharged a firearm in a crowded nightclub. Fortunately, he discharged it into his own leg and not someone else.

and you want to punish him as though he did shoot someone else?

he isn't a risk, I bet he learned his lesson(finally) and could do a hell of a lot more good on the street than off it.

there is another side to my opinion too, what if they let him off and he shoots someone? how big is that risk really?

I would never carry a gun again if I shot myself, holy crap can you imagine how terrifying that must have been?

My dad was in vietnam, got some shrapnel damage, his leg looks pretty cool actually, but as a result I haven't ever shot fireworks off, likely won't.

Life is impacted outside of a jail cell.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I'm real surpised at the beating your taking here.

I am real surprised at the surprise. He wants Plaxico to pay and provide community service to children, both of which are included in his "2 month 1700 cummunity service hours" deal. We aren't talking about 3.5 years (60 months) he keeps referring to, we are talking 2 months. That's practically training camp.