Bob Papa: Burress Is “Deathly Afraid” Of Going To Jail

[Doomsday101]

and you want to punish him as though he did shoot someone else?

he isn't a risk, I bet he learned his lesson(finally) and could do a hell of a lot more good on the street than off it.

there is another side to my opinion too, what if they let him off and he shoots someone? how big is that risk really?

I would never carry a gun again if I shot myself, holy crap can you imagine how terrifying that must have been?

My dad was in vietnam, got some shrapnel damage, his leg looks pretty cool actually, but as a result I haven't ever shot fireworks off, likely won't.

Life is impacted outside of a jail cell.

He learned his lesson and shows it by pleading not guilty? What part was he not guilty of and how did he learn the lesson. Hell if he was at home and shot himself in the leg I would make fun of him but not expect him to go to jail however he did go to a public nightclub and broke the law when he entered the establishment with a firearm. No one cares if you like this law or that law but we are all expected to abide by it and when we fail we pay the price for doing it.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

and you want to punish him as though he did shoot someone else?

he isn't a risk, I bet he learned his lesson(finally) and could do a hell of a lot more good on the street than off it.

there is another side to my opinion too, what if they let him off and he shoots someone? how big is that risk really?

I would never carry a gun again if I shot myself, holy crap can you imagine how terrifying that must have been?

My dad was in vietnam, got some shrapnel damage, his leg looks pretty cool actually, but as a result I haven't ever shot fireworks off, likely won't.

Life is impacted outside of a jail cell.

You're assuming intelligence and remourse.

You would think after going to prison for a number of years that a guy would learn his lesson and never put himself in position to go back.

Yet.....many do.

 

[Four]

I am real surprised at the surprise. He wants Plaxico to pay and provide community service to children, both of which are included in his "2 month 1700 cummunity service hours" deal. We aren't talking about 3.5 years (60 months) he keeps referring to, we are talking 2 months. That's practically training camp.

and that isn't a punishment to suit his crime.

you guys think 2 months is enough?

and as someone who spent a couple weeks in jail as a youth, it's not training camp and it sucks sucks sucks.

he isn't going to do a damned thing positive for the world the way it is playing out, I want that to change, I really am not at all caught up in whether he goes to prison or not. I want him to be used to help people.

helping people is good right?

 

[Four]

You're assuming intelligence and remourse.

You would think after going to prison for a number of years that a guy would learn his lesson and never put himself in position to go back.

Yet.....many do.

it's a leap to call plax a career criminal.

some people aren't capable of change, some people honestly don't deserve the breath they take, they are so awful.

plax is a dummy, big ole dummy. What is he? like 6 foot 5? big ole dummy.

but he isn't a threat.

 

[burmafrd]

All really stupid people belong in prison.

 

[dallasfaniac]

and that isn't a punishment to suit his crime.

you guys think 2 months is enough?

and as someone who spent a couple weeks in jail as a youth, it's not training camp and it sucks sucks sucks.

he isn't going to do a damned thing positive for the world the way it is playing out, I want that to change, I really am not at all caught up in whether he goes to prison or not. I want him to be used to help people.

helping people is good right?

You just seem to keep coming up with these good stories. You came from a rich family where you spent weeks in jail as a youth, at one point stabbed your leg with a knife so deep you passed out from loss of blood and purposely decided to become a poor teacher in the hood. You would like to see drugs legalized even though a couple of your family members took their own lives. This so has Hollywood written all over it.

What part of 1700 community hours does not help people?

 

[Four]

All really stupid people belong in prison.

no they don't, I wouldn't be able to post in prison.

 

[Doomsday101]

and that isn't a punishment to suit his crime.

you guys think 2 months is enough?

and as someone who spent a couple weeks in jail as a youth, it's not training camp and it sucks sucks sucks.

he isn't going to do a damned thing positive for the world the way it is playing out, I want that to change, I really am not at all caught up in whether he goes to prison or not. I want him to be used to help people.

helping people is good right?

I did 30 days in jail and it was not a jail for youths it was the real deal and it does suck and it is suppose to suck to the point that you don't want to return. You talk about him helping people yet he has not said that you seem to be thinking this is what he wants right now all he wants is not to go to jail and if means he stands up and says kids don't play with guns that is not going to teach anyone a damn thing because in the end he and everyone else will know the only reason he did it was to save is own butt and kids will see right through that because kids are not that stupid. Only lesson that will be taught is that if you are a pro athlete you can do what you want.

 

[Four]

You just seem to keep coming up with these good stories. You came from a rich family where you spent weeks in jail as a youth, at one point stabbing your leg with a knife so deep you passed out from loss of blood and purposely decided to become a poor teacher in the hood. You would like to see drugs legalized even though a couple of your family members took their own lives. This so has Hollywood written all over it.

What part of 1700 community hours does not help people?

community service is picking up trash on the highway. not making a difference.

and I didn't cut my leg, cut my forearm, middle of it. still have a totally rocking scar as a result. Man I freaked out when I came to and saw them stitching me up. That's scary man. kind of scary that changes your life.

the drugs thing, it hurt my family more to deal with the legality of the situation, hurt us bad, tore us apart actually. Government shouldn't rip families apart. we could have helped him, I know it in my heart, we could have. too bad we were trying to figure out how to pay for lawyers and who was going to go bail him out.

 

[Four]

I did 30 days in jail and it was not a jail for youths it was the real deal and it does suck and it is suppose to suck to the point that you don't want to return. You talk about him helping people yet he has not said that you seem to be thinking this is what he wants right now all he wants is not to go to jail and if means he stands up and says kids don't play with guns that is not going to teach anyone a damn thing because in the end he and everyone else will know the only reason he did it was to save is own butt and kids will see right through that because kids are not that stupid. Only lesson that will be taught is that if you are a pro athlete you can do what you want.

I said I was a youth, but I was in my 20s, so I was in real deal jail.

Scary folks in there.

money makes the world spin, it's just how it is. I just don't see the value in putting him away.

When I tell kids my story it makes a difference to them, I think his story can make a difference too. It's silly to not even try.

 

[dallasfaniac]

community service is picking up trash on the highway. not making a difference.

and I didn't cut my leg, cut my forearm, middle of it. still have a totally rocking scar as a result. Man I freaked out when I came to and saw them stitching me up. That's scary man. kind of scary that changes your life.

the drugs thing, it hurt my family more to deal with the legality of the situation, hurt us bad, tore us apart actually. Government shouldn't rip families apart. we could have helped him, I know it in my heart, we could have. too bad we were trying to figure out how to pay for lawyers and who was going to go bail him out.

First off, community service is not just picking up trash on the side of the road, despite what you want to think for your argument.

Second, I apologize if I cause you any hurt over past issues, but honestly I don't believe a word you say becausee your stories keep changing. Again, you mention that you were trying to figure out how to pay for lawyers etc. but earlier you mentioned that your family is rich. You keep coming up with these little stories to make it seem like you understand the issue better than everyone else, but you just fail to see that 2 months and 1700 community service hours would be jumped at in a second by everyone but him. You want him to tell his story and he can tell it over and over 1700 times.

 

[Four]

First off, community service is not just picking up trash on the side of the road, despite what you want to think for your argument.

Second, I apologize if I cause you any hurt over past issues, but honestly I don't believe a word you say becausee your stories keep changing. Again, you mention that you were trying to figure out how to pay for lawyers etc. but earlier you mentioned that your family is rich. You keep coming up with these little stories to make it seem like you understand the issue better than everyone else, but you just fail to see that 2 months and 1700 community service hours would be jumped at in a second by everyone but him. You want him to tell his story and he can tell it over and over 1700 times.

your definition of rich differs from my own. I never had to worry about food, had a car when I was 16, went to private schools, that's rich to me.

felony charges cost upwards of 10k to defend. We didn't have 10 grand sitting on the coffee table.

and you haven't ever done court ordered community service, because if you did you would realize it's not really serving anyone.

oh and you can't hurt me about my past, I cried those tears a long time ago.

 

[bbgun]

Is Four a Dallas fan or a Burress groupie? Confused.

 

[Four]

I bleed silver and blue, I love the dallas cowboys.

I remember when people booed troy and I still can't stand that it happened.

 

[Seven]

You should get your facts straight before you embarras yourself.

There are many states that do not require "registering" a handgun. There are a few states that don't require a CCW.

I have a many handguns, none registered, sometimes carried, no CCW, all legal. It depends where you live.

I never said that all states require registration. Show me where I said that. I'll eat it. I live in a state that doesn't require it.

Secondly you may carry your weapon in plain sight just about anywhere U.S.A. Excluding government buildings and where the proprieter(sp?) ask you not to.(You could push the latter). i.e. holster. "Concealed" ANYWHERE without a CCW is ILLEGAL. Period. You need to do your homework.

Just because you own a handgun doesn't impress me as to your knowledge. Or in this case the lack thereof.

 

[Jon88]

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[Section446]

He's afraid of going to jail but he's not afraid to walk around with a handgun next to his genitals?

 

[Ren]

Is Four a Dallas fan or a Burress groupie? Confused.

Either way they really need to limit internet access in the special schools these days

 

[Four]

Either way they really need to limit internet access in the special schools these days

see man, I don't insult you guys because I disagree with you.

I Don't call you stupid because I can't understand your views.

if everyone was just like you the world would be pretty boring, and likely in prison.

 

[CF74]

If I ever get in trouble, I pray that "Four" is either the judge or the jury foreman. His kind of leniency is hard to come by these days.

WTH are you talking about, California is full of ideas like his...:laugh2: