Bob Papa: Burress Is “Deathly Afraid” Of Going To Jail

[TellerMorrow34]

Demonized? In what sense is saying "he should be punished for his actions" calling him a demon?

Some are calling him an idiot and questioning his judgment, especially sense he's "deathly afraid of prison". If you want to make the point that it was smart for him to bring an unlicensed firearm into a club and shoot himself in the leg, then by all means make your case, but nobody is demonizing him by saying he should serve some time for what he did.

Exactly. I don't think he's the worst person to walk earth, or anything like that. He's no where near as bad as some people, and that goes without saying.

He still broke the law, clearly, and did it because he was being stupid. When you knowingly break the law you do so because you're being stupid. If you speed you're being stupid for doing so. You know it's agains the law so if you get in trouble for it are you going to go out and say, "Well this law is just dumb. I shouldn't be in trouble for it."

No. You're going to pay the fine because you're the idiot who broke the law. I know I've been that idiot a few times when it comes to speeding. I didn't blame others, or the law, or this or that. You have to take responsibility for it.

Plax broke the law, and it's not the first time he's done so either, and now he thinks he should just get to walk away from breaking the law because he's not particularly fond of going to prison?

Newsflash Plax. NO ONE WANTS to go to jail. No one gets up on a random morning and says, " You know what would be awesome today? Getting myself put in jail. That would be SWEET!!!"

So if you're afraid of going to jail, not fond of going there, and don't want to be there do yourself a favor and don't break the law.

Again, very simple.

 

[irishline]

you really think burress is a threat to society or you hate him because he played for the giants?

The guy screwed up, he has a bullet hole in his leg to prove it.

Don't send him to prison when he could do a hell of a lot more good out here.

literally he is going to do more time than vick did, you really think that is justice?

If my memory serves me correctly Vick plead out to lesser charges that dropped his prision time to 18 months (ish) from what could have been six years. From what I can tell this has more to do with the fact that Burress doesn't want to plead cause he's scared of jail. If he were to plead down it says he'd get 2 months then have to perform 1500 hours of community service. Then he could spend those 1500 hours doing exactly what you have been complaining they should let him do... "positively impact kids lives".

So if he does 3.5 years (rather than 2 months) it has more to do with him and his decision than it does with, as you call it, justice. This thread seems to be spending too much time talking about whether he should or should not do 3 years for carrying a unlicensed firearm and shooting himself in the leg, and not enough time to the fact that he could serve 2 months for the same thing if he plead out. Wonder if he "celebrity" and his "well paid" lawyers got him that deal, which he's refusing to take, or if one of us can expect the same treatment in the same circumstance.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I have to say bs that he refused community service in lue of jail time, no one does that.

Sorry that the media told you so, but no one facing jail time refuses an out, doesn't happen.

jail sucks, it sucks hard, and we all know it.

Oh so that isn't true. The rest of it's fine but the fact that they're reporting he turned down a deal isn't true. Gotcha. So you'll cherry pick what works for you.

rich background, poor now.

life is life sister, and we deal with what we are dealt.

don't attack me, it's my views you disagree with, don't get it twisted.

That's a stretch different than what you said before. You said you're a rich white kid who now lives in the ghetto. At no point did you say you're now poor. You passed it off as if you're some rich kid who just decided, for whatever reason, to live in the hood. As if you were trying to get the other view in live.

 

[Ren]

hows the world look from your bubble?

answer the question smart guy, what important life lessons will Plax learn from this that he can pass on to our kids if he's not held accountable for his own actions?


The reason they get junkies and criminals to speak to kids is to talk to them about the consequences their choices has had on their lives in Plax's case that would be none since the only thing he's learned is that, yes he's above the law and to keep the safety on next time

 

[irishline]

I look stupid because you don't share my views.

fundamental flaw with western society is we all think we are right.

he goes to jail gets out plays football again.

he doesn't go to jail, spend 3.5 years speaking to kids about the idiocy of burress.

again, on what planet do you not see the value of him helping other stupid people?

Or he could accept the plea agreement, spend two months in jail instead of 3 years. Then spend the next 3 years doing his 1500 hours of community service "speaking to kids about the idiocy of burress." Again, do you not see the value of reading an entire article, digesting it, then commenting about it in it's entirety.

The 3.5 years of prision time has more to do with Burress and less to do with the government as they already offered that plea to him. :bang2:

 

[Doomsday101]

You completely missed the point of everything I said.

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[x] Is not surprised at all

I did not miss you point I disagree with your point and I have no problem following the law and do not feel for idiots who break them. Burris wants to act like a big man with a gun and walk into a bar with it he deserves to go down. Regardless if you like mandatory sentence or not it is the law and you either follow it or deal with the consequence most adults do not have a problem following the law so this is not an issue for the vast majority of people

 

[irishline]

What's he going to tell kids Einstein, come on enlighten us..?

Plax: You shouldn't carry guns in public

Kids: But you did and nothing happened to you..

Plax: that's not true i shot my self in the leg

Kids: what if we're not stupid and keep the safety on, everything will be ok right?

Plax: um... i guess

:laugh2:

No more like this...

Plax: You shouldn't carry guns in public

Kids: But you did and nothing happened to you..

Plax: that's not true i shot my self in the leg

Kids: what if we're not stupid and keep the safety on, everything will be ok right?

Plax: No. Just remember kids when your carrying an unlicensed loaded firearm illegally, if the cops come for you pull it out and shoot yourself in the leg. The say "oops my bad", and all will be forgiven.

 

[CowboyWay]

Rykers Island ain't no joke. However, if its only 2 months, he should easily be able to do that. He is a celebrity, he could ask for solitary confinement, which I believe they would grant him. Stay in a cell by yourself for 2 months, and get it over with.

 

[superpunk]

I did not miss you point

Yes you did. Let me draw you a road map to your oblivion.

I think the mandatory sentence is stupid, in almost all cases. It takes away the ability we as humans have to use reason and common sense in our sentencing of our fellow humans. I understand the reason for the law, but in this case at least, the punishment does not fit the crime. He shot himself in the leg. Many people will serve less time for worse. Mandatory sentencing is ********. Let's start chopping people's hands off for stealing bread, why don't we?

Or how about you don't go into clubs with guns. Blaming the law for Burris stupidity? Please

Please show me where I blamed the law for Burress's stupidity. Then we can continue this conversation.

Or maybe you could just read posts more carefully before rambling?

 

[Dough Boy]

Oh so that isn't true. The rest of it's fine but the fact that they're reporting he turned down a deal isn't true. Gotcha. So you'll cherry pick what works for you.




That's a stretch different than what you said before. You said you're a rich white kid who now lives in the ghetto. At no point did you say you're now poor. You passed it off as if you're some rich kid who just decided, for whatever reason, to live in the hood. As if you were trying to get the other view in live.

He is clearly backtracking. He alluded to the world looking good from his point of view.

 

[Doomsday101]

Yes you did. Let me draw you a road map to your oblivion.





Please show me where I blamed the law for Burress's stupidity. Then we can continue this conversation.

Or maybe you could just read posts more carefully before rambling?

I think the mandatory sentence is stupid, in almost all cases. It takes away the ability we as humans have to use reason and common sense in our sentencing of our fellow humans. I understand the reason for the law, but in this case at least, the punishment does not fit the crime. He shot himself in the leg. Many people will serve less time for worse. Mandatory sentencing is ********. Let's start chopping people's hands off for stealing bread, why don't we?

That is your comment mandatory setence is not stupid I disagree with you what don't you get?

He shot himself in the leg? What does that have to do with anything he is stupid so he should be cut slack because he broke the law and shot himself in the process? You act like because he shot himself well that is punishment enough

 

[superpunk]

I think the mandatory sentence is stupid, in almost all cases. It takes away the ability we as humans have to use reason and common sense in our sentencing of our fellow humans. I understand the reason for the law, but in this case at least, the punishment does not fit the crime. He shot himself in the leg. Many people will serve less time for worse. Mandatory sentencing is ********. Let's start chopping people's hands off for stealing bread, why don't we?

That is your comment mandatory setence is not stupid I disagree with you what don't you get?

He shot himself in the leg? What does that have to do with anything he is stupid so he should be cut slack because he broke the law and shot himself in the process? You act like because he shot himself well that is punishment enough

Please show me where I blamed the law for Burress's stupidity, as you claimed in your first post addressing mine. Then we can continue this conversation.

I understand that you can't do this, because I did no such thing. So maybe it's best if you just drop it.

 

[trickblue]

Dont Drop The Soap Plax!

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[Big Country]

I think the mandatory sentence is stupid, in almost all cases. It takes away the ability we as humans have to use reason and common sense in our sentencing of our fellow humans. I understand the reason for the law, but in this case at least, the punishment does not fit the crime. He shot himself in the leg. Many people will serve less time for worse. Mandatory sentencing is ********. Let's start chopping people's hands off for stealing bread, why don't we?

it's all about da Benjamins B!!

I do agree tho.

BTW, Is that the infamous meatball squid in your avatar.

 

[Doomsday101]

Please show me where I blamed the law for Burress's stupidity, as you claimed in your first post addressing mine. Then we can continue this conversation.

I understand that you can't do this, because I did no such thing. So maybe it's best if you just drop it.

I understand the reason for the law, but in this case at least, the punishment does not fit the crime.

Yes it fits the crime it is the law he broke the law plain and simple. The claim seems to be that somehow that this law does not apply to Burress or that it is unfair or unjust. It is the law he broke that law and it applies to him as it does anyone else.

His getting shot in the process has nothing to do with anything other than the guy has no business owning a gun evidently.

Now If I read more into your statement than you meant then I apologize for misinterpreting you comment

 

[CF74]

Should it be ok to drink and drive too as long as you don't hit anyone?

Turnips and oranges. Altering your physical state with a substance and carrying a weapon don't apply. Nice try Norway...

 

[JoeyBones31]

I hope Plax likes jelly.

KY Jelly ??? :laugh2:

If he was so deathly afraid of prison, he should have used that brain of his and not transported an unregistered firearm across state lines, and then actually shoot himself.

I nominate this guy for the Einstein genius award of the century ! :bang3:

 

[irishline]

Turnips and oranges. Altering your physical state with a substance and carrying a weapon don't apply. Nice try Norway...

Depends on how you look at it.

It's not illegal to drive a car, however you can get in an accident and hurt or possibly kill somone or yourself. You get drunk and get behind the wheel of a car you are introducing something into that which can heighten the possibility of getting in an accident and someone getting hurt therefore it is illegal.

It's not illegal to go to a club, however you can get in a fight or slip and fall and get hurt. You bring a loaded gun to a club you are introducing something into that situation which can possibly increase the potential for serious injury to occur.

See a person in front of you while driving and you react. Is there a chance you hit and seriously hurt them? Sure. See a person in front of you while driving drunk and you react. What are the chances you hit and seriously hurt them? Much better than if you were sober. Go to a club and get in a fight. Is there a chance someone gets seriously hurt? Sure. Go to a club with a loaded gun and get in a fight. Is there a chance someone gets seriously hurt? Chances are better than if you or the other person didn't have a loaded gun. Does it mean either driving drunk or carrying a gun mean something is going to happen? Of course not, but each do in fact increase the possibility.

And I'm not quite sure what you mean with the Norway thing there at the end. Norway has one of the highest ratios of gun owners to total population in the world. They just happen to have a low gun crime rate. However, anyone can (and many there do) own one or several guns. Feel free to look it up.

 

[Jon88]

Go to jail for 2 months or 3.5 years? Hmmmm. I don't know.

 

[CF74]

Depends on how you look at it.

It's not illegal to drive a car, however you can get in an accident and hurt or possibly kill somone or yourself. You get drunk and get behind the wheel of a car you are introducing something into that which can heighten the possibility of getting in an accident and someone getting hurt therefore it is illegal.

It's not illegal to go to a club, however you can get in a fight or slip and fall and get hurt. You bring a loaded gun to a club you are introducing something into that situation which can possibly increase the potential for serious injury to occur.

See a person in front of you while driving and you react. Is there a chance you hit and seriously hurt them? Sure. See a person in front of you while driving drunk and you react. What are the chances you hit and seriously hurt them? Much better than if you were sober. Go to a club and get in a fight. Is there a chance someone gets seriously hurt? Sure. Go to a club with a loaded gun and get in a fight. Is there a chance someone gets seriously hurt? Chances are better than if you or the other person didn't have a loaded gun. Does it mean either driving drunk or carrying a gun mean something is going to happen? Of course not, but each do in fact increase the possibility.

And I'm not quite sure what you mean with the Norway thing there at the end. Norway has one of the highest ratios of gun owners to total population in the world. They just happen to have a low gun crime rate. However, anyone can (and many there do) own one or several guns. Feel free to look it up.

Your point is not deniable but the crime doesn't fit the punishment. Why should he go to jail for carrying a gun in a bar and shooting himself if it's his 1st offense? The Norway comment was because the poster has Norway on his location.