Bob Papa: Burress Is “Deathly Afraid” Of Going To Jail

[adamknite]

I cut myself shaving this morning, I am clearly a threat to society.

It's not as cut and dry as you make it.

Your politics make it so you can't see my point.

I see yours, and I agree to a certain extent, but each circumstance is different. Each person is different.

I want something constructive out of plax's mistakes, you don't, you want him in jail and are cool with it because the law is the law.

don't and won't ever share your beliefs, but I am more than willing to discuss my own, and I bet I don't talk down to you in the process of doing so.

Are you seriously comparing cutting yourself shaving to carrying a gun into a nightclub and shooting yourself?

 

[Vtwin]

I do believe carrying an illegal firearm is... illegal everywhere even if the punishment varies.

There would have been nothing illegal about this incident if it occured in Vermont.

You nannys crack me up.

 

[Vtwin]

Wrong. Carrying a weapon, concealed, in any state without a CCW, is illegal.
As it stands, your permit obtained in New Mexico will not be valid in the state of Indiana, let's say. There are currently four states allowing the validity of the CCW to be transferred across state lines.



No you don't...............read my above factiod. KNOW your laws before you decide on who get's what. Half-cocked liberals................jack of all knowledge, master at none.



We aren't conversing "illegal" weapons. We're explicitly on the subject of "concealed' weapons. Without a CCW. HUGE difference.



Half? Seriously? Wow. FOUR for president!!! Kinda catchy actually..........




What is a controlled handgun license?




Possessing an un-registered firearm is a whole different gig from carrying a weapon concealed, without a concealed carry weapon's permit. The punshiment would be far worse if one decided upon combining the two. But I guarantee you they'll hit you with both for the original offense.




You nailed this one, brother. CCW or not...........use your head!!

Not one post with accuracy concerning why Plaxico was charged. He was carrying a weapon concealed without the permit. All the other charges compound. Shooting himself, etc.

i.e. - 1) You smashed into the house.
................You are driving without a license.
....................Your drunk,
.......................high on meth and
.........................what is that white crap all around your nostrils?






I have yet, in my short-lived life, read anything that was more wrong than this statement. I'm really at a loss............Seriously.

You wouldn't happen to refer to a drug dealer as an "unlicensed pharmacist' would you?


Apologies for the semi-off-topic rant. I become concerned when the discussion on weapons escapes so many. There is a truth out there. If you own a weapon, find that truth and represent with responsibility.

In all of this, folks like Plaxico gives us responsible gun owners a bad rap. The guy can't even bring himself to carry one responsibly, much less use it correctly. He SHOT himself, Mr. Four. If all that ain't a threat to society, I do not know what is.

You should get your facts straight before you embarras yourself.

There are many states that do not require "registering" a handgun. There are a few states that don't require a CCW.

I have a many handguns, none registered, sometimes carried, no CCW, all legal. It depends where you live.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Four, you really need to stop using the argument that he can do so much more if he doesn't spend 3.5 years behind bars. They had an agreement for 2 months behind bars. I think American children can wait 2 months before hearing the word of reformed Burress and will get much more from his story seeing that he actually had to spend hard time because of his choices.

And your viewpoints on other laws are laughable at best. Do you really think that people taking drugs only hurt themselves? True comedy gold.

 

[Four]

Are you seriously comparing cutting yourself shaving to carrying a gun into a nightclub and shooting yourself?

are you seriously missing my point because I chose an extreme example?

 

[Vtwin]

I guess that's why prostitution, drugs, and animal cruelty are legal and adults are allowed to have sex with minors.

LOL

You just made his point.

 

[Four]

Four, you really need to stop using the argument that he can do so much more if he doesn't spend 3.5 years behind bars. They had an agreement for 2 months behind bars. I think American children can wait 2 months before hearing the word of reformed Burress and will get much more from his story seeing that he actually had to spend hard time because of his choices.

And your viewpoints on other laws are laughable at best. Do you really think that people taking drugs only hurt themselves? True comedy gold.

my uncle and my grandmother took their lives, because of drugs.

My perspective on this isn't based on ignorance. It's based on living through some really crappy stuff.

I came out of it all with my opinions, helped to shape who I am.

I want this to change someone's life for the better.

 

[Vtwin]

You should totally run for president

Nothing like a bunch of people on PCP or paranoid meth heads running around with loaded guns thanks to your liberals gun control laws, that's a really good idea :laugh2:

Like that is happening now?

LOL

You don't get out much do you? Maybe step away form the video game once in awhile and go outside.

 

[adamknite]

are you seriously missing my point because I chose an extreme example?

Your "point" is completely irrelevant because you chose an extreme example. Cutting yourself shaving isn't remotely close to the same thing as carrying a gun into a nightclub and shooting yourself in the leg.

 

[bbgun]

LOL

You just made his point.

He had a point? Recap: He alleged that law should be divorced from "morality." I countered that this was childish, impractical, and unfeasible, noting four or five things that advanced societies have long considered immoral. He then moved the goalposts by contending that anything goes ... so long as nobody gets hurt. Fail.

 

[Four]

Your point is completely invalid because you chose an extreme example. Cutting yourself shaving isn't remotely close to the same thing as carrying a gun into a nightclub and shooting yourself in the leg.

hurting yourself is hurting yourself

dude is a moron, shot himself in the leg

but I wouldn't think twice about him being out in the streets.

he is a threat to himself, those kinds of things work themselves out, without spending my tax dollars on keeping him locked up.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Four, I am curious about your viewpoint regarding Donte Stallworth. Do you rigorously defend him as well?

 

[Four]

donte is a scumbag who took another person's life away.

he ruined a bunch of people's lives because he was selfish and got behind the wheel when he had no business doing so.


nothing related about the two cases, sorry I don't see the link

 

[Vtwin]

He had a point? Recap: He alleged that law should be divorced from "morality." I countered that this was childish, impractical, and unfeasible, noting four or five things that advanced societies have long considered immoral. He then moved the goalposts by contending that anything goes ... so long as nobody gets hurt. Fail.

Not true.

Do some research on how, why and when drugs became illegal.

Prostitution is legal in many places today in this "advanced society".

You made his point by using two examples that could very, very easily be debated. These two examples are laws that came from the self riteous preaching of the morally elite but yet are practiced by very large segment of today's "advanced society". Including some of the morally elite.

Fail!

 

[Four]

by the way, at no point did I say what plax did wasn't wrong.

Just that the punishment isn't constructive when weighed against the bigger picture.

I want him to pay, but I want it to help people in the process.

 

[Four]

Not true.

Do some research on how, why and when drugs became illegal.

Prostitution is legal in many places today in this "advanced society".

You made his point by using two examples that could very, very easily be debated. These two examples are laws that came from the self riteous preaching of the morally elite but yet are practiced by very large segment of today's "advanced society". Including some of the morally elite.

Fail!

I kinda like this guy.

 

[ArmyCowboy]

donte is a scumbag who took another person's life away.

he ruined a bunch of people's lives because he was selfish and got behind the wheel when he had no business doing so.


nothing related about the two cases, sorry I don't see the link

Plax shot himself in the leg because the pistol discharged while he was standing and the gun was pointed towards his leg.

If he had been sitting and the gun had been pointing away from his leg, he could have shot someone else.

Why is this so difficult for you to understand?

I'm in the Army and a negligent discharge can stop a career. Why? Someone can get killed.

 

[dallasfaniac]

I want him to pay, but I want it to help people in the process.

To me, that's what 2 months behind bars and 1700 community service hours accomplishes.

 

[adamknite]

hurting yourself is hurting yourself

dude is a moron, shot himself in the leg

but I wouldn't think twice about him being out in the streets.

he is a threat to himself, those kinds of things work themselves out, without spending my tax dollars on keeping him locked up.

**sigh**

Unless there was some freak accident, your shaving has little chance of hurting somebody else. The act of shaving, usually doesn't harm anybody and when it does, it's typically very minor.

As Burress was being led into a VIP area, with a drink in his hand, the gun slipped down his pants leg. He reached for the weapon, but fumbled it and it went off, sources said. The bullet tore through Burress' already injured right thigh, police said.

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What if the gun had faced a different way when he "fumbled" it? There is much greater chance that carrying a loaded gun into a public place will cause somebody else to be hurt. There's the difference, hurting yourself is hurting yourself, but putting others in danger because you're an idiot...

 

[bbgun]

Prostitution is legal in many places today in this "advanced society".

LOL. Where, besides RI and certain counties in Nevada?