Bradie James - Getting Better?

[theogt]

See, now you are trying to win points by suggesting that Superpunk was on board with you.

You are the one twisting words and flip flopping your position - you have no legs to stand on in this regard.

See, this is what I'm talking about. Win points by suggesting that SP was on board with me? What on earth are you talking about?

It's like you can almost tell that there are coherent thoughts running through your mind and they want to get on screen, but the synapses just aren't firing. I really want you to try. Try hard, please.

 

[superpunk]

I think posts 47 and 49 are responsible for this whole thing. I went back and read them, and they really don't seem to have anything to do with eachother.

But they sure sparked a long spirited debate that noone else read or cares about.

 

[Stautner]

The trick/common distinction isn't meaningful, so there's no need to latch onto that. If Julius is lined up as QB and plays the QB position, he's a QB.

I agree - the trick, common distinction isn't meaningful.

But you avoided the question.

But originally you said that he wouldn't be a QB because it was a trick play.

Now you are flip flopping again by saying whether it was a trick play doesn't matter.


You position is contantly changing, so I don't get why you can't understand that the OLB position requires constantly changing where he lines up.

 

[Stautner]

See, this is what I'm talking about. Win points by suggesting that SP was on board with me? What on earth are you talking about?

It's like you can almost tell that there are coherent thoughts running through your mind and they want to get on screen, but the synapses just aren't firing. I really want you to try. Try hard, please.

You used his quote to support your position ..... I don't see it.

 

[theogt]

I agree - the trick, common distinction isn't meaningful.

But you avoided the question.

But originally you said that he wouldn't be a QB because it was a trick play.

Now you are flip flopping again by saying whether it was a trick play doesn't matter.


You position is contantly changing, so I don't get why you can't understand that the OLB position requires constantly changing where he lines up.

My position didn't change one bit. If he's playing RB and it's a direct snap to the RB, he's a RB. If he's playing QB and it's a direct snap the QB, he's a QB.

It's pretty simple.

 

[Stautner]

I think posts 47 and 49 are responsible for this whole thing. I went back and read them, and they really don't seem to have anything to do with eachother.

But they sure sparked a long spirited debate that noone else read or cares about.

I looked at those posts.

HE said that Carp didn't play any OLB, and I said he played in the same OLB capacity as Ware, which includes rushing from the LOS at times.

My point was that what Carp was doing was merely part of the OLB's role.

Maybe he was doing it more frequently than ususual because Indy was passing a lot, but he wasn't doing something that was exclusinve to nickle situations.

 

[theogt]

I think posts 47 and 49 are responsible for this whole thing. I went back and read them, and they really don't seem to have anything to do with eachother.

But they sure sparked a long spirited debate that noone else read or cares about.

You're right. He has a problem of replying to something with a statement that is completely irrelevant and/or nonsensical. When I try to makes sense of his statements, we argue. I think English may be a second language to Stautner.

You used his quote to support your position ..... I don't see it.

No, I didn't.

 

[Stautner]

My position didn't change one bit. If he's playing RB and it's a direct snap to the RB, he's a RB. If he's playing QB and it's a direct snap the QB, he's a QB.

It's pretty simple.

Why isn't he the QB ... is it because he isn't lined up under center?


If that's the case, then I guess when Romo is in the shotgun he must be a RB ........

 

[theogt]

I looked at those posts.

HE said that Carp didn't play any OLB, and I said he played in the same OLB capacity as Ware, which includes rushing from the LOS at times.

My point was that what Carp was doing was merely part of the OLB's role.

Maybe he was doing it more frequently than ususual because Indy was passing a lot, but he wasn't doing something that was exclusinve to nickle situations.

Wait a second. He played in the same OLB capacity as Ware? How'd he do that? By playing nickel DE? Are you now saying that playing nickel DE somehow makes someone an OLB?

 

[theogt]

Why isn't he the QB ... is it because he isn't lined up under center?


If that's the case, then I guess when Romo is in the shotgun he must be a RB ........

No, if he's lined up as QB, then he's a QB. If he's lined up as a RB, then he's a RB.

 

[Stautner]

You're right. He has a problem of replying to something with a statement that is completely irrelevant and/or nonsensical. When I try to makes sense of his statements, we argue. I think English may be a second language to Stautner.

Read my explanqation above.

And, again, you are interpereting Superpunk as agreeing with you.

He never said I replied in a nonsensical way - you put those words into his mouth for him.

 

[theogt]

Read my explanqation above.

And, again, you are interpereting Superpunk as agreeing with you.

He never said I replied in a nonsensical way - you put those words into his mouth for him.

He said that that is where the confusion began. I said that I agreed with him and then added that the confusion began because of your nonsensical statement. I think you're losing your mind.

 

[Stautner]

No, if he's lined up as QB, then he's a QB. If he's lined up as a RB, then he's a RB.

Well then, if the QB goes in motion and the RB is the only one in the backfiled, wouldn't he be the guy lined up as the QB ....... ?

After all, the QB isn't even behind the center at that point.


Think carefully, and remember that before you said the RB WOULD NOT BE THE QB because it was a trick play .......

 

[Stautner]

He said that that is where the confusion began. I said that I agreed with him and then added that the confusion began because of your nonsensical statement. I think you're losing your mind.

And always means sometimes and most likely means every time and OLB's moving to the LOS is the same as D-linemen playing LB, and .........

It's a crazy world full of contradictions, isn't it.

 

[theogt]

Well then, if the QB goes in motion and the RB is the only one in the backfiled, wouldn't he be the guy lined up as the QB ....... ?

After all, the QB isn't even behind the center at that point.


Think carefully, and remember that before you said the RB WOULD NOT BE THE QB because it was a trick play .......

No, there the QB motioned out wide and the RB took a direct snap.

Please, do respond to this post: http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1589316&postcount=209

 

[theogt]

And always means sometimes and most likely means every time and OLB's moving to the LOS is the same as D-linemen playing LB, and .........

It's a crazy world full of contradictions, isn't it.

Are you aware of what the term "mutually exclusive" means?

 

[superpunk]

I looked at those posts.

HE said that Carp didn't play any OLB, and I said he played in the same OLB capacity as Ware, which includes rushing from the LOS at times.

My point was that what Carp was doing was merely part of the OLB's role.

Maybe he was doing it more frequently than ususual because Indy was passing a lot, but he wasn't doing something that was exclusinve to nickle situations.

I'm not going to try and make sense out of who's position was what.

I'm just saying that those posts seem to have sparked this whole thing, and that they seem to have nothing to do with one another. My gut tells me that the reason for that is that you were trying to somehow suggest that Carpenter is an OLB because of another long-*** thread you and theogt had before - but I don't care whether that's true or not.

All I know is that post 49 responded to post 47 - and seemed (at least to me) to have absolutely nothing to do with post 47.

Sometimes OLBs play DE in a nickel package. Sometimes ILBs play DE in a nickel package. Sometimes Richard Seymour plays DT in a nickel package. But playing defensive end in a nickel package is not exclusively the responsibility of an OLB - I think you've acknowledged that.

Honestly, I have no idea what is being argued about now. It all seems like a misunderstanding that stemmed from two posts 150 posts ago.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Just got through reviewing the game (I was on vacation last week).

Dude still looks like the same ol' Bradie James to me -- slow and lost.

Sure he had the nice stop on short yardage, but he even looked bad against the run on a few plays other plays to me.

I didn't see much talk on this recently. Thoughts?

I thought he looked good on the run. Thing is that the Colts didn't run on the perimeter like they usually do. James does take blockers on well and can handle runs up the middle pretty well, but is usually slow on the runs on the perimeter. The thing that concerned me was on a pass play to Harrison. I'm pretty sure that James was supposed to play short zone coverage. The TE (Fletcher, I believe) ran a seam route and Bradie ran right with him and that left Harrison wide open underneath as Bradie wound up screening Newman. If he stays underneath, Harrison probably doesn't get the wide open reception. He was slow last year and lost the weight, so he should be faster, but I believe we had an issue with him knowing how to play coverages and diagnosing pass plays as much as anything. I could be wrong on the zone coverage on this play, but if I'm right than yeah, I'm concerned.





YAKUZ

 

[Stautner]

No, there the QB motioned out wide and the RB took a direct snap.

Please, do respond to this post: http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1589316&postcount=209

So, even though he was in a formation where he was essentially taking the snap as a shotgun QB would, he is still a RB ...........

yet when Ware lines up in a position on the LOS like a DE, he is no longer an OLB .........


As for that link you showed - that was merely you asking if I thought playing nickle DE automatically makes someone an OLB .........

so what if you asked that, I never said it did.

Are you really trying to prove I said something by quoting YOUR WORDS?

If you want to prove I said something I believe you need to quote my words ......

And I'm still waiting.

 

[superpunk]

So, even though he was in a formation where he was essentially taking the snap as a shotgun QB would, he is still a RB ...........

yet when Ware lines up in a position on the LOS like a DE, he is no longer an OLB .........


As for that link you showed - that was merely you asking if I thought playing nickle DE automatically makes someone an OLB .........

so what if you asked that, I never said it did.

Are you really trying to prove I said something by quoting YOUR WORDS?

If you want to prove I said something I believe you need to quote my words ......

And I'm still waiting.

If you'll allow me to arbitrate a bit....

There is no instance where you specifically said that playing nickle De....blah blah blah.

But in post 49, you certainly suggest that Carpenter is an OLB (or played OLB against Indy, since ogt said he didn't) BECAUSE he played some nickle defensive end.

That may not have been your intent, but that's how I read it.

If that was not your intent, you two can probably just hug and move on.