Twitter: Broaddus says "I have thought all along that Carr stays"

[DoomsDayD]

Great. Nothing wrong with keeping a lousy secondary together.

BUT ROMO is coming back..all will be ok!!!

 

[gimmesix]

I always figured he would be back one way or the other. The team just does not have the depth at the position to let him go especially if we want Jones to play safety.

The main goal should be to fix the pass rush anyways, that is the best way to upgrade our secondary.

Depth is definitely the main issue. If Dallas cuts Carr it has to replace him and the players who are out there in FA might be wanting far more than Dallas would be willing to pay for their talent level. Sometimes biting the bullet and just keeping what you've got is the better move.

 

[gimmesix]

Depth? What team is 4 deep at cb? Mo, Scandrick and Hayward is a capable 3 man group. Scandrick, Mo , carr and Carroll arent. Id take a rookie mid round guy over Carr. I n the fandom of anyone using positive words about Carr or Mo's play, sorry.

We're three-deep right now. If we replace Carr, how much is it going to cost us just to get another mediocre player?

 

[jjktkk]

It's funny to watch people try to justify Carr being on this team in 2016.

I don't know if it's justified, or more along the lines that Cowboy fans are resigned to the fact the F.O. wants to keep Carr, albeit, at a reduced price.

 

[stilltheguru88]

We're three-deep right now. If we replace Carr, how much is it going to cost us just to get another mediocre player?

Leon Hall is an upgrade from Carr. Facts

 

[Kaiser]

We're three-deep right now. If we replace Carr, how much is it going to cost us just to get another mediocre player?

But if you save 6.5MM by cutting him, how can you not replace him?

That said, I could see the team keeping him with a paycut that is much smaller than the fan base expects. If Scandrick comes back to form he was playing like a #1 CB when he got hurt. If you follow that is OK to average guys in Claiborne, Carr and Nolan Carroll (maybe Olatoya as well) you should be OK if you have a good passrush and Safeties behind them.

 

[Aliencowboy]

Casey Hayward a 2nd rounder was not offered any money and allowed to walk away as a FA with 9 interceptions over the last 4 years. Green Bay could do this because their 1st and 2nd rounders performed so well: DRandall and QRollins. Meanwhile, Carr and Claiborne have 9 together over the same time. Yet, Dallas keeps them and overpay. Brett Hundley performed so well as a 5th rounder that GB let their back up go too.
http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-p...d-thompson-to-let-casey-hayward-leave-packers

 

[Texas_Pete]

Rumor: Hayward signed with the Bolts.

 

[gimmesix]

But if you save 6.5MM by cutting him, how can you not replace him?

The team would have to believe that someone like Carroll was worth the 1.5 to 2 million we would actually save once you figure in Carroll's salary.

 

[gmoney112]

But if you save 6.5MM by cutting him, how can you not replace him?

That said, I could see the team keeping him with a paycut that is much smaller than the fan base expects. If Scandrick comes back to form he was playing like a #1 CB when he got hurt. If you follow that is OK to average guys in Claiborne, Carr and Nolan Carroll (maybe Olatoya as well) you should be OK if you have a good passrush and Safeties behind them.

Where is this pass rush, and where are the safeties? Right now, we have one reliable pass rusher, an option in FA in Hardy, who by all accounts is a headcase. Rookie DE's need a year. We're still intent on keeping Church who is also a liability in coverage.

I'm not trying to be snarky, but this secondary is mediocre, and I have no idea where this "upgrade", in pass rush or safeties is coming from. I am literally wondering if I'm missing something.

 

[darthseinfeld]

They like to tread water

 

[JoeKing]

Sure you did Bri Bri.

 

[Kaiser]

Where is this pass rush, and where are the safeties? Right now, we have one reliable pass rusher, an option in FA in Hardy, who by all accounts is a headcase. Rookie DE's need a year. We're still intent on keeping Church who is also a liability in coverage.

I'm not trying to be snarky, but this secondary is mediocre, and I have no idea where this "upgrade", in pass rush or safeties is coming from. I am literally wondering if I'm missing something.

The season starts in September, not April. We are less than a week into FA and will have a ton of money to spend - and we have the 4th pick in the draft.

And even before those moves, the pass rush will be better just from the fact we will have Thornton upgrading 1 Tech and Crawford healthy at the 3T.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Meanwhile, Carr and Claiborne have 9 together over the same time.

After Hayward's electric 6 INT rookie season, he's only had 3 INTs in the past 3 season and has missed 13 games due to injury. In that same period, Carr also has 3 INTs and hasn't missed any games. I'm not saying Carr is better. I'm just saying it's easy to pick out stats to make your case. GB didn't seem to love Hayward during his career. GB fans also say he's been a bust since his rookie season. Plus, he's mostly a nickel back and we already have one in Scandrick.

 

[plymkr]

You do realize that last season was probably the first time in Marinelli's years as defensive coordinator that he had this tough of a time forcing turnovers?

The defense was never going to get a lot of turnovers because opposing offenses played us conservative. Offenses played us very conservative and protected the ball and waited for us to beat ourselves on offense. It worked most games. I have no doubt in my mind that Marinelli can coach a defense to force turnovers, I have many years of proof to back that up.

Yeah I agree, last year was a fluke for Marinelli and his defense. I'm a fan of Coach Marinelli. But I'm not a fan of our CB's so I was just venting a little bit of my frustration. I'm still butt hurt about last year and you guys are the only people I can talk to about it. So sometimes I get in these sarcastic, venting moods and just let go. But I am a fan of Coach M just not our DB's with the exception of Jones.

 

[Frozen700]

Be careful. Someone here won't like you disrespecting anyone with a star. Not until they are officially gone.

 

[plymkr]

Like his Bears D from 2010-2012? Yeah, they only averaged around 22 INT's those 3 years

Please do not throw out facts when I'm in one of my mood swings. Facts really hurt my emotional ranting. Lol

 

[StarBoyz83]

The season starts in September, not April. We are less than a week into FA and will have a ton of money to spend - and we have the 4th pick in the draft.

And even before those moves, the pass rush will be better just from the fact we will have Thornton upgrading 1 Tech and Crawford healthy at the 3T.

It'll be the same or worse since we have no DE and the other DE has an injury. Crawford is good but nothing special

 

[big dog cowboy]

Casey Hayward a 2nd rounder was not offered any money and allowed to walk away as a FA with 9 interceptions over the last 4 years. Green Bay could do this because their 1st and 2nd rounders performed so well: DRandall and QRollins. Meanwhile, Carr and Claiborne have 9 together over the same time. Yet, Dallas keeps them and overpay. Brett Hundley performed so well as a 5th rounder that GB let their back up go too.
http://espn.go.com/blog/green-bay-p...d-thompson-to-let-casey-hayward-leave-packers

So you found a ESPN article about another team who has luck drafting CB's and tied this in with Carr and started a new thread about it?

 

[perrykemp]

Packers picked CBs in round 1 AND 2 in 2015 to make sure they had at least one player to replace Tramon Williams who they didn't resign and let go to Cleveland.

Both of the guys they drafted looked pretty good.

Considering they already have Sam Shields as CB1, they really weren't under any pressure to pay Hayward anything close to what the market dictated.