Broaddus: Starting to look like coaches plan on Kellen Moore as #2 QB

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There are a bunch of zoners here that are setting themselves up for massive disappointment on day 1 of
draft. Broaddus and Spags from DC.com have been saying for some time now that the odds of
Dallas picking a QB at #4 is almost nil. They get to spend quality time with Jerry, Stephen and Will
McClay and they know who they are discussing in the halls of Valley Ranch. Broaddus doesn't even
like Wentz and Goff that much. He has them rated down the line from Paxton Lynch his favorite QB
in this draft. Everyone will be yelling, screaming and cussing on draft day when Dallas goes defense
but the statistical odds and needs of the team favor those picks this year. As Jerry said, every decision
will be made with the idea that Romo is the QB now and for the next 3-5 years and the expectation of
getting to the playoffs.

Not everyone will be disappointed and I like Lynch more than the other 2 as well.
 

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Broaddus has been saying a lot of truly terrifying things lately. Like House of Horrors terrifying.

Talking about Ezekiel Elliott and Myles Jack with the #4 pick, out with Hardy, in with 3-sacks, non-pass-rusher Adrian Clayborn, and now talking about Moore as the backup? Ugh!

I sincerely hope that these guys are just helping to spread disinformation, because if this is what this front office is actually thinking, we're in line for more of the heartbreak, disappointment, and failure that we saw in 2015.

And it will be completely self-inflicted.
 

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Broaddus has been saying a lot of truly terrifying things lately. Like House of Horrors terrifying.

Talking about Ezekiel Elliott and Myles Jack with the #4 pick, out with Hardy, in with 3-sacks, non-pass-rusher Adrian Clayborn, and now talking about Moore as the backup? Ugh!

I sincerely hope that these guys are just helping to spread disinformation, because if this is what this front office is actually thinking, we're in line for more of the same since 1995.

And it will be completely self-inflicted.

FTFY
 

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Just because they see Moore as the #2 doesn't mean they won't draft someone to groom. If it's in the mid to late rounds it would make sense that Moore is still the back-up. The rookie needs to develop.

A rookie does need to develop, but when you start developing a mid-round talent, at the most you may get a backup QB. The odds against him would be slim to none to ever develop into a good backup and it will not solve the problem that Romo's replacement is still needed. For every Brady or Wilson that developed, there are hundreds, if not thousands that have failed to even make a NFL roster. In Dallas's situation, drafting a mid-round QB will be nothing but a waste of a draft pick.
 

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Broaddus has been saying a lot of truly terrifying things lately. Like House of Horrors terrifying.

Talking about Ezekiel Elliott and Myles Jack with the #4 pick, out with Hardy, in with 3-sacks, non-pass-rusher Adrian Clayborn, and now talking about Moore as the backup? Ugh!

I sincerely hope that these guys are just helping to spread disinformation, because if this is what this front office is actually thinking, we're in line for more of the heartbreak, disappointment, and failure that we saw in 2015.

And it will be completely self-inflicted.

Stash, if you think about it, Jerry and the coaches are not known for all these smoke screens that I keep reading about on here. History has shown that Jerry usually means what he says . He is not that good at keeping secrets and he is not that good of a GM to know how to lie on his opinion of most of these players. The smoke screen crowd is giving him too much credit IMO. The leaked draft boards have kind of proven that Jerry talks honest with the press on his evaluations of players.
 

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Stash, if you think about it, Jerry and the coaches are not known for all these smoke screens that I keep reading about on here. History has shown that Jerry usually means what he says . He is not that good at keeping secrets and he is not that good of a GM to know how to lie on his opinion of most of these players. The smoke screen crowd is giving him too much credit IMO. The leaked draft boards have kind of proven that Jerry talks honest with the press on his evaluations of players.

You're right about that. But I've also seen Jerry essentially contradict himself already. He's said that the Cowboys won't pass up a franchise quarterback and then has reportedly said he "unequivocally" won't take one at #4. And then he follows that up by referring to wanting a Brett Favre / Aaron Rodgers succession plan as well. He's muddied the waters pretty well already, so it's hard to tell exactly what he's saying.

But if half the stuff that Broaddus is saying is true, it just sounds like more stupidity. Short-sighted, quick-fix, one or two players away nonsense that has resulted in a .500 team.
 

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My take is that would mean drafting a QB high. They dont want use 3 million a year on a backup like McCoy. Also they took note of what Bradford got and what Osweiller is about to get.

That's what struck me too, which I'm happy about.

That said I think if Romo went down for 2-4 games, Moore might win one or two which is no more that any other veteran QB we're likely to pick up will do and for a lot less money and if he's gone for more games that that, we're screwed anyway.

Maybe we could spend the difference on a decent Free Agent at our position of choice.
 

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Well Jerry has said they want a impact player insinuating 2016.
he also said tony is the qb of next few years.
Then rumor kellen moore will be the # 2

So why pay # 4 $ now for a QB that will have no impact anytime soon.
The upside is later on they may not have a high pick and have to trade up,
but there may be better QB available,
Then again they maybe should get wentz or whoever now.

It is a tough decision .

Jerry also wanted a QB last year when romo had even more time in his career
So who knows where his head really is on a QB. My guess is there is one of the top two they like and if he is there they take him but that's just a guess
 

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The problem is the # 4 pick gets a high minimum contract. So for a player who may not play if Romo holds up, your paying him a lot of $
to sit on bench.
If Tony goes down it is worth it, if he is good, but if tony doesnt miss many games, then it isnt.

Trading down might not be a bad idea.

Kellen with more work and attention. is a ok bkup. He now has game experience and the coaches can look at his film.

I think cowboys want a impact player for 2016 if they use the #4 pick.

The 4th pick irrespective of position will get about $5m.

We paid Miles Austin just over $5m in dead money last season.

Paying the rookie won't be a problem.
 

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It is just a possible positive outcome if Goff/Wentz pick things up quickly.

You don't have to be 'that guy' all the time. We get it.

So no it doesn't happen all the time.

And the potential payout is quite low.

Stahp it.
 

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As I said, this makes no sense. So after the season was over, Jones says the Cowboys have to get more out of the back up QBs. Then weeks ago, backup QB is again listed as the top priority in this offseason.

Now today the solution is someone the Cowboys had on their roster this entire time? Honestly, it's frightening from many angles. Frightening in the sense that they would think Moore is a quality back up. Or frightening in the sense that the Jones' think the rest of the league and agents are stupid enough to believe all their BS.
 

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I promise you that no matter who we draft at 4 and 34, they will not be the single reason we make the playoffs or win the Super Bowl next season.

However, if we draft a QB at 4, they could very well be the single reason we make the playoffs or win the Super Bowl for seasons 2018-2032.

Not so sure about that if we can get Henry in the 2nd.
 

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Outside of the backup QB play, I think the defense was far worse than the offense overall.

Carolina's defense gave their offense the ball back 39 times... The Cowboys defense gave the Cowboy offense the ball back 11. How many of those extra 28 turnovers did Newton & Co. capitalize into points– probably a lot. Now the Cowboys offense wouldn't have turned those turnovers into the same points? NO. But they would have put more points on the board than what they did.

On this team, the quickest way to improve the defense is to have good QB play.

Let's be honest when's the last time the defense carried the team?

Equally, who could we pick at 4 that's going to come in here as a rookie and turn the defense around?

As our QB goes, so goes the rest of the team.
 

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On this team, the quickest way to improve the defense is to have good QB play.

Let's be honest when's the last time the defense carried the team?

Equally, who could we pick at 4 that's going to come in here as a rookie and turn the defense around?

As our QB goes, so goes the rest of the team.

There are other teams out there that have put together decent defenses... Just because the Cowboys haven't done it doesn't mean it can't be done or isn't a good idea.

And no, no single defensive player selected at #4 will do that. But you combine the pick at #4, but the 2nd rounder plus a couple free agent pickups– now you're getting somewhere.

And no QB selected at #4 is going to make a difference this year and probably not next.

And no backup QB is going to make much of a difference.
 

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If he goes for 1800 like Demarco it will be. And I think he can.

Name me the last rookie to run for 1800 yards?

I think Dickerson is the last and only one to do that.

Seems like you have ridiculous lofty expectations for the kid.
 
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