Broaddus take on Garrett being fired after this season

Beast_from_East

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In fairness, Wade was 1-7 when he was fired. They were not doing "alright."

But all Garret has done is gotten them back to being mediocre. I'd almost rather them be horrible though, the draft picks are better and my stress levels would be lower.

Wade also won 2 division titles and a playoff game in the previous 3 seasons before that 1-7 start.

Opie was also the copilot of that 1-7 start.
 

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Wade also won 2 division titles and a playoff game in the previous 3 seasons before that 1-7 start.

Opie was also the copilot of that 1-7 start.

Wade also presided over 44-6 before the 1-7. He had lost the team.

I'm not giving JG a pass, but I am saying we were not all rainbows and lollipops before Garret took over.
 

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Wade also presided over 44-6 before the 1-7. He had lost the team.

I'm not giving JG a pass, but I am saying we were not all rainbows and lollipops before Garret took over.

I dont know if you have been keeping up with current events, but every team with more than 2 or 3 wins is dropping 40 burgers on us...................if that is the standard we are using, then Garrett has lost this team multiple times already.
 

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This team didn't fold. The talent on defense stinks.

The poor results are not surprising to me. Get some NFL level defensive talent then we'll talk.

At some point the injuries and lack of talent excuses have to be put to rest don't you think?
Every team goes through them, some with more talent some with less but most of them are not this mediocre, taking out the obvious bad teams, the rest of them have mostly been to the playoffs in the past 4 years and that's on Garrett.
 

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I dont know if you have been keeping up with current events, but every team with more than 2 or 3 wins is dropping 40 burgers on us...................if that is the standard we are using, then Garrett has lost this team multiple times already.

I'm not sure how pointing out that Wade sucked before Garrett got this team means I am in any way defending what he has done since he took over, but I assure you I have been keeping up with current events and all of the burgers being dropped on us.

And now I'm hungry.
 

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Since Jerry's enormous ego won't let him fire the real problem in Dallas, the GM, it then falls to the "next man up" and that is Garrett...Wade do no less than what Garrett has (take butt kickings regularly), so why should Garrett not get the boot? Time for the "process" to proceed on down the road...
 

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I'm not sure how pointing out that Wade sucked before Garrett got this team means I am in any way defending what he has done since he took over, but I assure you I have been keeping up with current events and all of the burgers being dropped on us.

And now I'm hungry.

LOL..............I am hungry too now..........nothing like a 5000 calorie burger from a fast food joint to get over a loss.
 

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That's just not true, they were doing allright before Garrett was named coach. Go and check the records. Garrett being named head coach is what wrecked this team.

I'd say it goes back to Garrett being the full-time OC. Jerry gave this guy unequivocal support from the very beginning. By the end of Wade's tenure, you could tell something was not right. You just had to read the signs of grumbling in the locker room, including the offense's inability to sustain drives which was putting a lot of pressure on the defense. Often times, they put the blame on the defense not producing TOs, but his can you play aggressive when your offense is three and out. This defense also wasn't given any CBs, and Jerry eventually brought in Campo as well. The biggest indicator of the disarray was Wade wanting to bring in Dan Reeves as a consultant.

Jerry is now facing karma. He's had to get his own baby-sitters for his golden boy.
 

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Yeah blame Jerry, but it's Jerry that brought in Garrett. Again, it should be emphasized Garrett's father is apparently just as close, if not closer to Jerry than Lacewell. In 2004, during Parcell's tenure, they BOTH resigned. They are both back. If you think Lacewell is in Jerry's ear, which seems to be the case with the Kiffin hire, then there is no reason for you to disown Jim from the picture. This is the elite inner circle.
 

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Remember the term "culture" during Wade's tenure. There has been a scapegoat for Garrett since the beginning. It was TOs fault. Problem with that clown is he couldn't shut his mouth and his character preceded him. He just escalated an already bad situation. Miles Austin bailed Garrett out in that KC game where he just broke tackles. Problem is, you can't mask a flaws offense in deism. Roy sucked, but people forget Jerry traded three picks to get him for Garrett to assist that flawed offense. The OL was the issue and last night, we still couldn't stop a blitz up the middle when it counted.

Now, it's either Romo on offense or the defense as a whole, as if the discussion about Dallas being the worst team on third down ever was aeons ago, and not just during this whole season.
 

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three strikes and you are out

Sure but everyone and there brother has been standing around with shovels ready to bury Garrett for no other reason than he's Jerry's guy. I never seen a HC micro analyzed as much as him. The bad part is that he's probably gonna move on to another team and be successful. Rule number one is beat your division rivals and he's done that this year so far , I don't think Broaddus is taking that into account.. I can't see any coach being fired if they're beating division rivals. It would be more likely he'd be fired if what he's telling Jerry isn't adding up when they take the field. But there isn't a coach alive that could keep this defense healthy.
 

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Micro-analyzed? LOL...The clown's had the support of the media since the beginning. He's been viewed as the golden-boy without meritt. Everybody says he's been hamstrung, by Wade, by Rob Ryan, by some vague 'culture' of losing that he's had to clean out. Now it's Kiffin's fault and Callahan's...

Now, he's finally getting what he deserves after hiding behind other people for his own failures... The guy is smoke and mirrors..
 

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Remember the term "culture" during Wade's tenure. There has been a scapegoat for Garrett since the beginning. It was TOs fault. Problem with that clown is he couldn't shut his mouth and his character preceded him. He just escalated an already bad situation. Miles Austin bailed Garrett out in that KC game where he just broke tackles. Problem is, you can't mask a flaws offense in deism. Roy sucked, but people forget Jerry traded three picks to get him for Garrett to assist that flawed offense. The OL was the issue and last night, we still couldn't stop a blitz up the middle when it counted.

Now, it's either Romo on offense or the defense as a whole, as if the discussion about Dallas being the worst team on third down ever was aeons ago, and not just during this whole season.

No one forget's about the Roy trade. I haven't went more than a month without reading it at least once somewhere in the last 3 years. You just met my quota for this month. That horse aint gettin up.
 

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And yet, nobdy blames that Roy trade on Jason Garrett, but primarily Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones. Wade has many a time made it clear that he wld nevr spend a first-round pick on a WR, let alone throw away 3 picks. Jason Garrett again, hiding...

Now people are seeing the light that this Roy Williams was part of JGs failures...
 

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Micro-analyzed? LOL...The clown's had the support of the media since the beginning. He's been viewed as te golde-boy without Merritt. Everybody says he's been hamstrung, by Wade, by Rob Ryan, by some vague 'culture' of losing that he's had to clean out. Now it's Kiffin's fault and Callahan's...

Now, he's finally getting what he deserves after hiding behind other people for his own failures... The guy is smoke and mirrors..

BS for every one person thats said anything good theres been 4 that sarcastically call him Jerry's golden boy. There weren't people waiting around any of the past head coaches offices waiting to see who's gonna call the plays.
 

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BS for every one person thats said anything good theres been 4 that sarcastically call him Jerry's golden boy. There weren't people waiting around any of the past head coaches offices waiting to see who's gonna call the plays.

Oh please.. All throughour Wade's tenure, we head abou Camp Cupcake and a losing culture, while the guy won two division titlesand our first playoof game in 17 years. Then JG comes along, and suddenly it's about a change in culture and discipline. Hell, we were inundated with articles about how JG didn't start Marion Barber because he didn't wear a tie. How often did people attribute Sean Lee as a RKG of Jason, when Wade drafted him... BS...

Jason Garrett's brother was brought in as a TE coach and promoted to Passing Game Coordinator here and we got worse... His other brother was brought into the personnel department and he's still here.
 

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And yet, nobdy blames that Roy trade on Jason Garrett, but primarily Wade Phillips and Jerry Jones. Wade has many a time made it clear that he wld nevr spend a first-round pick on a WR, let alone throw away 3 picks. Jason Garrett again, hiding...

Now people are seeing the light that this Roy Williams was part of JGs failures...

That trade was almost identical to what they done for Terry Glenn. That was classic Jerry thinkin one guy could keep the team rolling.
 

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It's gonna be tough to get anywhere in the playoffs with the likes of SF, Seattle, NO, Carolina in the way. If we win the division and go one and done I think Garrett still keeps his job. If we miss the playoffs... I still think Jerry will lean toward keeping him unless we really embarrass ourselves.


We will be embarrassed.
We can't stop anyone from scoring.
We are not potent enough on offense to score when we need to.
 

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Wade also presided over 44-6 before the 1-7. He had lost the team.

I'm not giving JG a pass, but I am saying we were not all rainbows and lollipops before Garret took over.

Garrett also got a bounce when he took over. I think that while these players appear to be programmed a little differently than in the past, there are still systemic things that are very wrong.

I think Garrett's offensive outlook is well overdue to go away. He has had sustained tenure as the offensive mind and a QB that most teams cannot even hope for and there is no excuse for things to continue to sputter with very little to no consistency from year to year. This should be a well-oiled machine that is carrying this football team each season, even with the defensive struggles. It is not even close to that.
 

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Oh please.. All throughour Wade's tenure, we head abou Camp Cupcake and a losing culture, while the guy won two division titlesand our first playoof game in 17 years. Then JG comes along, and suddenly it's about a change in culture and discipline. Hell, we were inundated with articles about how JG didn't start Marion Barber because he didn't wear a tie. How often did people attribute Sean Lee as a RKG of Jason, when Wade drafted him... BS...

Jason Garrett's brother was brought in as a TE coach and promoted to Passing Game Coordinator here and we got worse... His other brother was brought into the personnel department and he's still here.

LOL I suspect you were one of the ones calling it camp cupcake. Garrett just tried to put in his system that doesn't mean he blames Wade for going 1-7 when most people know the team got old and there wasn't any depth there.
 
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