Broaddus's take on issues with Dez

[Clove]

Dez just isn't the same without an elite QB. He runs limited routes and has a very specific skill set. Unless he is used in just the right way, he becomes much more of a JAG. Until Dak develops and learns how to use him, this is what he is IMO. There could be some truth to the injury concerns, but we won't know that tell end of season, if at all. I believe another part of this is Dak's unwillingness to make some of the throws that Dez is elite at. These throws have much more risk, which goes against the very trait that made Dak so good last year, risk aversion.

What elite QB are you referring to? Peyton Manning is retired and Tom Brady plays for New England.

 

[Clove]

It has nothing to do with elite. He needs a QB that is accurate outside the has past 15 yards. Dak is all over the place.

So what should Dez do when the ball hits him in the HANDS?

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

What elite QB are you referring to? Peyton Manning is retired and Tom Brady plays for New England.

Like I said earlier in the thread, its fine if you don't believe Tony was playing at an elite level, but the 9-88 connection was elite.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Brown minus Big Ben has been average, when Vick and Landry has been his qb his stats suffer like most wrs.

True, but for several reasons. Dak is a 2nd year QB that just lost his most reliable offensive friend. Dez has been running bad routes for 10 years and declining in production and abilities for 3 years.

You want to blame Dak and say he isnt a good QB, be my guest. Romo was special at throwing the football. I would give Romo a 9 out of 10 in throwing the football. I would give him a 2 in using his legs and running. I would give him a 6 in leadership and intangibles.

Dak I would say is a 7 in throwing the football. I would give him a 9 in using his legs and running. I would give him an 8 in leadership and intangibles. So yah, Romo thew the ball better, but Dak will be the better QB overall. Now if you want to give me a bad team with no run game, then give me Romo all day long. But if you have a good team and you want to win championships then Ill take Dak.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Like I said earlier in the thread, its fine if you don't believe Tony was playing at an elite level, but the 9-88 connection was elite.

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The problem is that Romo is not longer elite and neither is Dez. End of story. Time to move on for you and now Dez.

 

[Clove]

Like I said earlier in the thread, its fine if you don't believe Tony was playing at an elite level, but the 9-88 connection was elite.

Please please, don't ever say Tony was elite again. Don't embarrass yourself.

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

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The problem is that Romo is not longer elite and neither is Dez. End of story. Time to move on for you and now Dez.

Ignoring the past facts is a dumb as saying history doesn't matter. Dez can still win the jump ball and be unstoppable on the back shoulder throws. The bottom line is both Dez and Dak need to improve on working together.

 

[birdwells1]

Dez can't get open because he doesn't run precise routes as he is prescribed to do in the playbook that everyone else is going by. You can tell Dak tries to compensate for Dez's lazy route running but that's not always possible. And Dak wrongly gets the blame sometimes when he throws the ball where Dak suppose to be rather than where he is.

Really? Some of you guys are just throwing stuff up against a wall to see if it sticks. On the int the reporter showed that Dak read man coverage but it was a zone so Dez settled in the zone but dak threw in front of him like it was man. It happens with a young qb but somehow y'all want to pin it on Dez. Your mind is made up and there is no changing it.

 

[Clove]

When the ball IS thrown to Dez, and it hits him in the hands/arms/body, he catches it some of the time. He's not fast like TO. TO dropped balls, but when he caught them, look out. Dez drops balls, can't get open, can't run routes consistently sharp, short arms and make business decisions, you know because he has a big contract and all, Dez is a #2 WR at best. This coming from a HUGE Dez fan 3 years ago.

 

[Clove]

Let me add this. I think that QB is the most important person on the team, and to me, Dak has definitely under performed this year. He's not showing the moxie he showed last year, and he's rushing things based on the pass rush, which isn't there sometimes. He's hesitant to make the dangerous throw, and he basically doesn't make super quick reads all of the time, so yeah, I don't think he's playing good at all. HOWEVER; he is a 2nd year QB and we all know that Rome wasn't built in a day.

For those comparing him to Romo is pure idiocy. You're just dumb. You're comparing a 14 year VET, to a 2 year player. hahahahaha. It's like asking a 2 year old to beat a 14 year old running.

 

[jobberone]

Please please, don't ever say Tony was elite again. Don't embarrass yourself.

He's not embarrassing himself but you are. He is entitled to his opinion just as you and everyone else here. It's not your place to tell him what to say. You're welcome to disagree with anyone as long as it is done civilly.

/Mod hat off

 

[Clove]

He's not embarrassing himself but you are. He is entitled to his opinion just as you and everyone else here. It's not your place to tell him what to say. You're welcome to disagree with anyone as long as it is done civilly.

/Mod hat off

Okay, Quincy Carter was elite and should be in the HOF. Feel better?

 

[ABQcowboyJR]

Please please, don't ever say Tony was elite again. Don't embarrass yourself.

In case it flew over your head, i'm not comparing Dak to Tony. Its important to look at how Dez performs with both QB's and compare and contrast. Yes Dak isn't Tony, but there were things that 9 was able to do that enabled Dez to by very successful. Until Dak incorporates some of those things into his game, Dez will not be as successful.

 

[Clove]

In case it flew over your head, i'm not comparing Dak to Tony. Its important to look at how Dez performs with both QB's and compare and contrast. Yes Dak isn't Tony, but there were things that 9 was able to do that enabled Dez to by very successful. Until Dak incorporates some of those things into his game, Dez will not be as successful.

He can start by CATCHING THE BALL! Send him that note.

 

[JoeKing]

Really? Some of you guys are just throwing stuff up against a wall to see if it sticks. On the int the reporter showed that Dak read man coverage but it was a zone so Dez settled in the zone but dak threw in front of him like it was man. It happens with a young qb but somehow y'all want to pin it on Dez. Your mind is made up and there is no changing it.

You are talking about one specific play. I'm giving it to you. But I'm not talking about one specific play so you aren't even addressing what I said. Dez is a poor route runner. Period, point blank. end of discussion.

 

[Clove]

This is the one thing that rubs my hide wrong. Is when receivers consistently run bad routes, short arm throws, and won't catch the ball. Catch the ball just like Pittsburgh catches it. This is how you help out your young QB, you catch the stinking ball. If it's in the vicinity , catch it.

 

[JoeKing]

This is the one thing that rubs my hide wrong. Is when receivers consistently run bad routes, short arm throws, and won't catch the ball. Catch the ball just like Pittsburgh catches it. This is how you help out your young QB, you catch the stinking ball. If it's in the vicinity , catch it.

 

[Clove]

This is my final rant so pay close attention. I used to be a WR back in my day. I've played with different QBs. I've played with QBs who threw it mid power but accurately, I've played with QBs who threw it extremely hard and accurate, I've played with QBs who threw it hard an inaccurately, and I've played with QBs who threw it extremely soft with very little zip, so he would loft it out there early. The one thing I do know is, if it comes to you at all, YOU HAVE TO CATCH IT.
I sat there and watch Dez consistently drop balls, not fight for balls, allow DBs to block him out, doesn't finish routes. What happens when Dak throws to Witten? He catches it.

 

[Cowboyz88]

Just throwing it out there, but isn't it possible that Dez (aging, injuries, limited route running, etc.) and Dak (youth, footwork, accuracy, etc.) are both responsible for the lack of chemistry?

 

[Clove]

This is my final rant so pay close attention. I used to be a WR back in my day. I've played with different QBs. I've played with QBs who threw it mid power but accurately, I've played with QBs who threw it extremely hard and accurate, I've played with QBs who threw it hard an inaccurately, and I've played with QBs who threw it extremely soft with very little zip, so he would loft it out there early. The one thing I do know is, if it comes to you at all, YOU HAVE TO CATCH IT.
I sat there and watch Dez consistently drop balls, not fight for balls, allow DBs to block him out, doesn't finish routes. What happens when Dak throws to Witten? He catches it.

Let me add this. I was a 4.6 guy recorded by hand when I was 23, so it was probably a tad slower or faster. Why was I always open? Because I knew how to run my routes very crisp.