Bucky Brooks: "It's a myth that elite QBs single-handedly carry their teams to wins"

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But the defense plays the QB. The design isnt at fault, it's that the LB doesnt bite on the half -hearted 'look' of a play action, instead played the one GUARANTEE, which was that if it turned out to be a pass, it would go between the hashes and they could counter with a high Safety coming down.....WHICH IS DAK's BLINDSPOT.

It was 2nd and 2, the Defense had nothing to lose, they expected to concede the 1st down......give up the run, and played on the (admittedly low % chance) that Dak would throw. Rather than play percentage (WHICH DAK DOES WELL), Dak moves out of his comfort zone (which Dak does when he panics).

It's not about carrying the team, it's more about whether he can maintain composure when trailing.....or whether teams can play on that anxiety that appears to take over.
You still don't get it. The play-action SHOULD NEVER have been included in this quick-hitting pass play. If anything, the play should have included setting the RB in motion fast towards the sideline in order to carry the LB or CB with him, thus forcing the defense to either switch to man-coverage or force the Safety to drop back in zone coverage. Instead, this play design with crazy play-action included crammed everything inside and allowed our WRs to be covered easily on only those 2 yards needed for a 1st down. No play-action needed. 1 step drop...pass it! Plus, with CeeDee and Cooks lined up twins left, Cooks should have cut hard after 2 yards while CeeDee going 5 yards before cutting inside on a slant, thus forcing the creeping Safety to choose either Cooks slanting in right away or CeeDee slanting in a few seconds later. One of our WRs would have been open. Instead, the dumb play-action and our twin set left WRs running the same depth (5 yards) before slanting inside allowed the Safety to step in between and cover both, thus resulting in Dak not able to see the creeping Safety (due to Dak being forced by play design to run a dumb and unnecessary play-action) before having to immediately get rid of the pass which resulted in a blind thrown pick-6.
 
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You still don't get it. The play-action SHOULD NEVER have been included in this quick-hitting pass play. If anything, the play should have included setting the RB in motion fast towards the sideline in order to carry the LB or CB with him, thus forcing the defense to either switch to man-coverage or force the Safety to drop back in zone coverage. Instead, this play design with crazy play-action included crammed evetything inside and allowed our WRs to be covered easily on only those 2 yards needed for a 1st down. No play-action needed. 1 step drop...pass it! Plus, with CeeDee and Cooks lined up twins left, Cooks should have cut hard after 2 yards while CeeDee going 5 yards before cutting inside on a slant, thus forcing the creeping Safety to choose either Cooks slanting in right away or Ceede slanting in a few seconds later. One of our WRs would have been open. Instead, the dumb play-action and our twin set left WRs running the same depth (5 yards) before slanting inside allowed the Safety to step in between and cover both, thus resulting in Dak not able to see the creeping Safety (due to Dak bring forced by play design to run a dumb and unnecessary play-action) before having to immediately get rid of the pass which resulted in a blind thrown pick-6.

You would understand this if you played QB or WR.
So we're taking out any play-action plays, as Dak needs to be looking at the Defense. Surely, Dak could of worked out that there was a high percentage chance that GB were going to enact the Blueprint on that play, especially when he saw that the LB hadnt bought the run?

The play was to Cooks (CeeDee took BOTH Safeties), Dak was spooked as Quay Walker hadnt bought the run. It looks like Dak saw Walker, panicked and tried/HOPED to get the ball to CeeDee as Dak was looking in that direction.

It's that composure issue, you can argue that play-design was part to blame, but then again it was 2nd and 2, why throw the ball as CeeDee had those two Safeties in his vicinity.
 

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AC is still focusing on the play design as the problem. Plays are inanimate beings. They don’t do nor cause anything. Passing plays are blueprints to get receivers open. They don’t do half-assed play action, nor do they throw into traffic, nor throw ball late, nor stare down the first read receiver.
 

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LOL.

And I said the highlighted part, where? I'll wait. Don't scurry off or ignore this. Where did I say that the 90s teams were all Troy?
Some actually believe it was everybody but Troy who was just along for the ride. lol
 

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Elite quarterbacks supposed to step up in the biggest moments and make the most of the moments that are given to them.... then why are there "elite" quarterbacks who have less Superbowl success than some non elite quarterbacks?
They are using winning the Super Bowl as the standard for "elite" QBs and that is wrong on every level........

I mean what about the QBs who have won only one Super Bowl? Does that mean they were elite for only a year? It's crazy.....LOL
 

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Elite QBs can do more than just play well. They inspire a lesser player to reach his potential. On the flip side a mediocre QB like Dak inspires his defense to play worse because he plays worse.
 

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Funny how the only names thrown around this thread is Mahomes and Brady like Cowboys ever came close to grabbing either of those 2.

Unless we're to expect Cowboys saw something in 3 star high school QB Mahomes that the scouts who had Trubisky and Watson over him didn't see
Dallas might of been in an NFC championship game had Dak not played well enough to prevent Dallas from drafting Watson.
 

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The problems are the same thing every time. Dak ignores the outside guy that is one on one and wide open. He stares down the inside guy who runs a sloppy route. He forces it into a tight window. Disaster ensues. A 60 million dollar veteran QB has to do a number of things:

1. Recognize what is happening and take advantage of soft spots.
2. If it isn't there just eat it. Live to fight another day.
3. If players are not running good routes yell at them until they do.
4. If the play designs do not work for you tell the coaches and get them changed.

It may not be fair but it is the reality of the situation. As the 60 million dollar QB you will have to be the driving force that makes it all work. You no longer have the luxury of excuses. You are the CEO of the entire team. You are the highest paid employee. You are the boss and you are responsible.
 

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So we're taking out any play-action plays, as Dak needs to be looking at the Defense. Surely, Dak could of worked out that there was a high percentage chance that GB were going to enact the Blueprint on that play, especially when he saw that the LB hadnt bought the run?

The play was to Cooks (CeeDee took BOTH Safeties), Dak was spooked as Quay Walker hadnt bought the run. It looks like Dak saw Walker, panicked and tried/HOPED to get the ball to CeeDee as Dak was looking in that direction.

It's that composure issue, you can argue that play-design was part to blame, but then again it was 2nd and 2, why throw the ball as CeeDee had those two Safeties in his vicinity.
The play was not to Cooks. It was to CeeDee. It would have worked better if the play was to Cooks, but sloppy route running and terrible play design had that play doomed before it started. Same thing happened the 2 previous years' playoff losses against the 49ers. Same darn mistakes that have yet to be corrected. Even Kurt Warner hinted at this.
 

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The problems are the same thing every time. Dak ignores the outside guy that is one on one and wide open. He stares down the inside guy who runs a sloppy route. He forces it into a tight window. Disaster ensues. A 60 million dollar veteran QB has to do a number of things:

1. Recognize what is happening and take advantage of soft spots.
2. If it isn't there just eat it. Live to fight another day.
3. If players are not running good routes yell at them until they do.
4. If the play designs do not work for you tell the coaches and get them changed.

It may not be fair but it is the reality of the situation. As the 60 million dollar QB you will have to be the driving force that makes it all work. You no longer have the luxury of excuses. You are the CEO of the entire team. You are the highest paid employee. You are the boss and you are responsible.
100% spot on. :hammer:
 

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Dak is like the CEO of a large corporation that is happy to place the blame at the feet of a guy making minimum wage. The guy making minimum wage does not get paid enough to care. He is not responsible for making it all work. This is your show big guy and the performance against Green Bay was the worst show I have ever seen in my life.
 

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The play was not to Cooks. It was to CeeDee. It would have worked better if the play was to Cooks, but sloppy route running and terrible play design had that play doomed before it started. Same thing happened the 2 previous years' playoff losses against the 49ers. Same darn mistakes that have yet to be corrected. Even Kurt Warner hinted at this.
Exactly. It is always the same thing. Teams give us the one on one outside stuff knowing that we will not take advantage then they clog up the middle stuff with zones. It is only a matter of time before the throw everyone knows is coming happens. The team breaks down it is over.

The part that hurts the most is that the throws that kill us are never super aggressive throws that are trying to take advantage of something or throws that are aggressive down the field. It is always defensive conservative stuff. The defense is sitting waiting patiently. They are never stressed.
 

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Because you don't understand football or the schematics of terrible play designs. Got it.
So you know more than the OC, HC and all the other offensive coaches, the same O that was top. 3 in most categories, you watch a few you tube videos and your a expert, just have to laugh, you need to go down to the star and apply for the HC position, make sure you tell them that KW said it’s not Dak fault
 

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So you know more than the OC, HC and all the other offensive coaches, the same O that was top. 3 in most categories, you watch a few you tube videos and your a expert, just have to laugh, you need to go down to the star and apply for the HC position, make sure you tell them that KW said it’s not Dak fault
Kurt Warner has called out the same dumb play designs, sloppy routes and poor decisions 3 playoff loss seasons in a row. He said the Cowboys have failed to correct the same mistakes. So, yes, absolutely yes I'm calling out the coaches and players. For this they get paid millions?
 
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