Career high rating for Drew? What he needs:

[SuspectCorner]

i'm of the school that believes having HOFers WR charlie joiner and TE kellen winslow (and don't forget the under-rated WR wes chandler) didn't exactly hurt fouts either. he was def a slinging fool - but he sure had some amazing talent to sling it to.

 

[big_neil]

The one stat Bledsoe is superior to Fouts is interceptions.

To me, the most important QB stats (not including won/loss record) are yards per attempt and passer rating.

YPA is important, but not as important as TD/INT or Completion percentage. Drew is right there with the top at Completion percentage, hence he is #5 in Attempts and #5 in Completions. He is #7 in Yards, but he has nearly as many TDs as Fouts with about 50 fewer INTs. And for the record, Fouts once threw 6 INTs in a Playoff game.

 

[big_neil]

Rating is too much a function of the team and the opponent than individual performance, hence they never show rating in the NFL Top lists.

 

[big_neil]

Wait a minute, we're talking about how Drew is not that good because his YPA is not that good? Here are the top 5 Yards leaders and YPA:

Marino 7.3.
Favre 7.1
Elway 7.1
Moon 7.2
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Avg. 7.2

Drew's YPA in 2005: 7.4

 

[Avenging Hayseed]

Bledsoe is what he is....A VERY GOOD QB that needs a team around him if he's ever gonna win a Superbowl. Thats not so bad after all. I can think of MAYBE three QB's who could have won superbowls with sub par talent around them. Montana, Favre in his heyday, and Staubach. Thats about it. Marino with all his talent couldnt do it. Elway with all his talent couldnt do it untill he had a legit team around him. Montana, Roger, and Favre, thats about it. And really, even with those guys one never knows because they did in fact have awesome talent surrounding them. Although I will say Montana DIDNT when he won his 1st superbowl, BUT the wco was brand new back then so that helped.

 

[TNCowboy]

YPA is important, but not as important as TD/INT or Completion percentage. Drew is right there with the top at Completion percentage, hence he is #5 in Attempts and #5 in Completions. He is #7 in Yards, but he has nearly as many TDs as Fouts with about 50 fewer INTs. And for the record, Fouts once threw 6 INTs in a Playoff game.

Completion % pales next to YPA in importance. If you have a good YPA, you're not only completing a high %, but you're getting the ball downfield as well.

You made my point for me: Bledsoe has almost as many yards and TDs as Fouts, but has thrown almost 900 more passes than Fouts. In other words, it's taken the equivalent of 2 extra seasons for Bledsoe to match Fouts in yards and TDs.

And I'm not sure how rating is more of a function of the team than any of the other stats are.....perhaps you don't understand how the QB rating is calculated?

And I don't disagree on Bledsoe's #s this year. This is one of the top 2 or 3 years in his career, but for the other QBs mentioned by other posters - Marino, Fouts, etc - Bledsoe's season would have been merely average for them.

I don't think anyone is saying he's not a good QB. What I'm saying is that he is a good QB, he's just not a great one. His #s just aren't as good as most of the other guys, and he hasn't won a SB (except as a backup) either.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Drew has had a very good year! Congrats

 

[big_neil]

Bledsoe has almost as many yards and TDs as Fouts, but has thrown almost 900 more passes than Fouts.

Wow - and to think he has 56 fewer INTs with 900 more attempts than the HOF'er Fouts.

 

[big_neil]

PS - you keep saying the same thing in different ways. First it's YPA. Then it's how many attempts it took him to get that many yards. As if it's several strikes against Drew. That is about the only bad stat you can come up with on Drew.

 

[Hostile]

Stats have very little if anything to do with greatness.

 

[Nors]

Greatness?

Aikman the great example. Early and Late in career without weapons he floundered. With the nucleus in place he was great. Would Aikman have led this team to 11,12 wins with this running game and protection? Not so sure.

Bledsoe wins a SB in his years here he'll be elevated to great.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

PS - you keep saying the same thing in different ways. First it's YPA. Then it's how many attempts it took him to get that many yards. As if it's several strikes against Drew. That is about the only bad stat you can come up with on Drew.

BN you seem particulary perturbed because many of us refuse to annoit Bledsoe as the best QB ever! Not to mention the best to ever wear the Star...

To me he doesn't even make the top-5 of best Cowboy QB's once you figure in W-L plus the current rules in place at the time to judge how effective the Cowboy's passing game actually was.

Staubach
Aikman
White
Morton
Meredith

All better than Bledsoe within the context of the Cowboys...

Now if you look at it from the larger picture:

Staubach
Aikman
Bledsoe

To me Bledsoe is not currently superior to Staubach or Aikman.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Greatness?

Aikman the great example. Early and Late in career without weapons he floundered. With the nucleus in place he was great. Would Aikman have led this team to 11,12 wins with this running game and protection? Not so sure.

Bledsoe wins a SB in his years here he'll be elevated to great.

He has to win it first Norsey...

 

[Hostile]

He has to win it first Norsey...

Fatal flaw. Aikman never played for the Pats. Therefore the 3 Super Bowls are probably a mirage. The Hall of Fame induction forthcoming...smoke and mirrors.

 

[Doomsday101]

I'm too the point that I really don't care how some feel about Bledsoe, I like having a QB who has a clue, something this team has not had since Troy Aikman was here. Great? Good? Bad? I guess that is in the eye of the beholder but looking around the league I think we have a damn fine QB who has had to carry a bigger load due to trouble with the running game and more importantly the offensive line.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'm too the point that I really don't care how some feel about Bledsoe, I like having a QB who has a clue, something this team has not had since Troy Aikman was here. Great? Good? Bad? I guess that is in the eye of the beholder but looking around the league I think we have a damn fine QB who has had to carry a bigger load due to trouble with the running game and more importantly the offensive line.

Doom there isn't one person here that is saying Bledsoe is a POS... not one.

I think everyone has said that he is the best QB we've had since Aikman.

The discussion is more based upon Bledsoe's standings with the all-time greats which I think has been a good debate all the way around.

 

[Doomsday101]

Doom there isn't one person here that is saying Bledsoe is a POS... not one.

I think everyone has said that he is the best QB we've had since Aikman.

The discussion is more based upon Bledsoe's standings with the all-time greats which I think has been a good debate all the way around.

You act as if I was directing this to you? I don't care how anyone around here feels about Bledsoe I like him and that for me is the bottom line. I'm sick of the weekly nay Sayers at every turn people and their opinion change from game to game or play to play. It is ridicules. So for those who don't care for Bledsoe good for you myself I'll take him any day of the week and that mindset has not changed one bit as so many others have.

 

[Nors]

Aikman is on my list of greats. But a perfect example of a QB that has benefitted from a Hall of fame line, greatest RB ever and Future Haller in Irvin, Vovacek, Johnston.

And oh by the way a dominant defense. Aikman floundered early and late in career without that.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

You act as if I was directing this to you? I don't care how anyone around here feels about Bledsoe I like him and that for me is the bottom line. I'm sick of the weekly nay Sayers at every turn people and their opinion change from game to game or play to play. It is ridicules. So for those who don't care for Bledsoe good for you myself I'll take him any day of the week and that mindset has not changed one bit as so many others have.

Doom you sound like someone shorted you a present for Christmas.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Aikman is on my list of greats. But a perfect example of a QB that has benefitted from a Hall of fame line, greatest RB ever and Future Haller in Irvin, Vovacek, Johnston.

And oh by the way a dominant defense. Aikman floundered early and late in career without that.

It is what it is Nors... I would think for most on this board the consensus is that Aikman was still a better QB than Bledsoe.

I'm sorry you hate Troy so much, but you being a loyal Pats fan first I can understand.