Charlton is wasted draft pick

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

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[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Anyone who was a fan of the Gregory pick should have been Watt over Taco all the way.

This, with yours and Risen Star response.

 

[Typhus]

i always make an effort to watch him. he was terrible yesterday. he's also got the body language of someone who doesn't care about football. i don't know how he passed the mental eval with our scouts.

I do the same as well Zordon.
Im just hoping that he is pissed for being dissed, and now that Crawford is hurt, baby boy can wipe away his gifted tears and play like he was drafted to?
As great as McClay has been at his job, even the best can make a bad judgement call.
Im letting this playout before I make a final call on homeboy.
Its show up time or bust right now, at this point, time to be an xtra large crunchy taco with all the fixings!!!!

 

[Macnalty]

I will give the OP +1 for rubbing salt in the wound making another thread on this topic. You can never have enough bash Taco threads.

That's what happens when you force a pick like we did in that particular draft. All of the other top draft picks that we have hit on we took the BPA rather than reached for need. This was a classic need pick. We took a 3rd or 4th round pick in Taco (developmental player) in the first round. His speed numbers are pedestrian for a top DE pick.

He still has time to become a player but he was significantly over drafted.

My feeling exactly we were going to leave the first round with a DE no matter what that year. Most back half of the first rd DE take a while to mature unless you hit on an outlier. I think he is normal but I am disappointed that we did not win the lottery again with his pick. I think we are spoiled...

 

[pugilist]

Meh, the front office and McClay get a pass from me. They’ve nailed so many draft picks over the last 5-6 years.

Can’t get a home run every time

 

[Pants]

jury is still out on taco for me, but in my mind, things are trending to the "dead to me" area....as others have stated, we needed a DE, not a LB in a 3-4 scheme (Watt)...so I have no issues with Taco over Watt at the time...even now, Watt is a 3-4 positive player, I don't think he would be in a 4-3 (hard to say)

Taco is a luxury to me, similar to Irving but for different reasons

 

[CowboyRoy]

i was rewatching the game this morning since I do not have to work today and was watching all of charltons snaps. the guy gets no push whatsoever. I just wonder what was the scouting department thinking when they drafted him. Armstrong needs to be active in playoffs instead of Charlton. the guy cannot stop the run or even get close to qb. I guess you cannot hit every first round pick.

Yep and this is what I was seeing every time for the last two years when watching him. He gets absolutely abused by everyone. The few times he makes a play is when he is completely unblocked.

 

[CowboyRoy]

jury is still out on taco for me, but in my mind, things are trending to the "dead to me" area....as others have stated, we needed a DE, not a LB in a 3-4 scheme (Watt)...so I have no issues with Taco over Watt at the time...even now, Watt is a 3-4 positive player, I don't think he would be in a 4-3 (hard to say)

Taco is a luxury to me, similar to Irving but for different reasons

Taco is even worse then what I had predicted and have been saying. Now you have to throw in attitude and commitment. The guy has NO shot.

Luxury? You only say that because of Gregory. One failed drug test and we will be without a DE. Unless Armstrong develops

 

[Scotman]

I wanted Watt, just because of the last name. And he's been significantly better than Taco. But, I'm still hoping Taco gets it while he's still ours.

 

[Pants]

Taco is even worse then what I had predicted and have been saying. Now you have to throw in attitude and commitment. The guy has NO shot.

Luxury? You only say that because of Gregory. One failed drug test and we will be without a DE. Unless Armstrong develops

I just mean that I expect nothing from him, so if he EVER produces anything, it will be a luxury...basically, a big surprise for me to hear "Charlton with the sack"

 

[CowboyRoy]

I just mean that I expect nothing from him, so if he EVER produces anything, it will be a luxury...basically, a big surprise for me to hear "Charlton with the sack"

 

[DasSchnitzel]

I wouldn't call it a "wasted" pick because misses happen. They needed a DE so they grabbed the one they felt was the best fit for Dallas and it ended up being a miss.

We Dallas fans are just spoiled because the Jones boys have been money in the first round lately.

I just can't get angry for one 1st round miss miss when their first round picks lately have included a rookie LB that's already in the conversation of "NFL Best", a guard who has cemented himself as a top guard in the NFL, a guy who gave you a few good years as a safety and then has been a league leading CB this year, a guy who seems like a lock for annual rushing titles, and a WR with almost 1000 yards and 10 TDs despite having two bye weeks and almost no production for 5 games in Oakland (for all intents and purposes, Cooper is our 2019 1st round pick).

TLDR: I'm at the point where I trust their evaluations and Taco just busted because draft picks sometimes do that.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I just wonder what was the scouting department thinking when they drafted him.

Whoever drafted him was thinking, "Oh my god, we desperately need a pass rusher and all the top guys are gone, we have to take this guy." An obvious bust waiting to happen: only one great college year and it came when he was a senior. I remember Football Outsiders's projection system despised him (not that their system is so great, but it's worth a second look when somebody looks really terrible in an objective analysis like that).

I thought Lawrence was a bad reach, but he sure worked out in the end. But the lesson from that isn't, "go ahead and make more picks that look like bad reaches," because usually they are.

 

[BoysForLife]

i was rewatching the game this morning since I do not have to work today and was watching all of charltons snaps. the guy gets no push whatsoever. I just wonder what was the scouting department thinking when they drafted him. Armstrong needs to be active in playoffs instead of Charlton. the guy cannot stop the run or even get close to qb. I guess you cannot hit every first round pick.

I'll repeat what I said the day we drafted him

Really talented, garbage motor

At Michigan he would be average and then all of a sudden decide he wanted to play, and when he flipped the switch he was really disruptive to the opposing offense

This is consistent with what you are hearing from "sources" on the inside. With Taco it's an attitude issue

If they could somehow figure out a way to get him mentally invested, he will make plays. (And I'm not blaming the coaches, this is Taco's fault. I'm just saying, if somehow someone can figure out what makes him tick)

He can do it. Will he? Remains to be seen. My guess is no, and if he doesn't figure it out soon they need to move on. But it would be a shame because somewhere down there the ability is there

What's missing is the desire

 

[Flamma]

But TJ Watt doesnt fit the system they said.

if this isnt a lesson that you always TAKE THE BEST PLAYER I don't know what is.

TJ Watt was the obvious pick at that time. When I heard who we picked I said, who? I really thought we were going to take Watt. But all of this is in hindsight. I'm still not giving up on Taco. He does show flashes at times. He may just be a late bloomer. But I will admit chances are he is a bust.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

TJ Watt should have been the pick.
I don't care about the he is not a pure DE argument. He holds up well enough at the point of attack. Also if we just wanted a guy to occupy a blocker i don't think you need to spend a first on that. IMO Taco is a sort of a functional Marcus Spears type player.

We could have used Watt as a situational pass rusher and part time DE and he would have been a huge asset for us. Offense has to account for his presence because he gets to the QB fast and embarrasses LTs.

Ding...ding...ding...agreed.

I would love to know who signed off on that. Wonder if it was Rod.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

I’m predicting Taco is part of draft day trade that nets us like 4th-5th round pick.

 

[Ekspozed]

If not for his draft status, i think he'd be a nice backup to tank on the left side, flip flopping Armstrong to the right.

Unfortuntely he was a first round pick and would be looked at as so. Thus far he has had a reported bad attitude to go along with not really excelling at anything. Here's to hoping that changes. Another offseason at tanks hip may do him some good. Gotta find that hunger.

 

[cnuball21]

Isn’t this year 2? Let’s see what happens next year and if he doesn’t show more I’m ok with labeling him a disappointment.

We drafted him knowing he was raw with great tools so he might take longer.

 

[Gangsta Spanksta]

I'm willing to wait a bit more on taco. I mean while most people see that as a first round pick, I tend to think of bottom of the first round as being high second round picks.