Chaz Green?

[big dog cowboy]

No one really knows. I believe that Garrett was not happy when they selected Randy Gregory and I believe that was the slot where they wanted a runningback. There were still good runningbacks right up till round 4 but instead they took Chaz Green which I believe to be a reach. I think now they are regretting that pick especially since Green hasn't even sniffed the training field and that were still signing UDFA runningback off the streets.

I can't accept the fact that they were satisfied at runningback at that point. Especially when MacFragile has a history of injuries and that Randle has never carried a heavy workload. Sure the FO can say all they want that they are happy with what they have. But MacFragile gets injured or Randles goes off again and steals boys underwear, our entire season is gone out the window.

We will never know if Garrett was on board with the Gregory pick. One thing we do know is they weren't looking at RB's that early. While you may think Green was a reach, why would the Cowboys be regretting that pick? The Cowboys knew he was hurt when they picked him and expected Green to possibly start the season on the PUP. There is no reason to think that they are regretting any picks for that matter. I'm not sure why you can't accept the fact they liked their RB's at that point. They didn't sign any, trade for any or draft for any. Pretty strong endorsement if you ask me. Our season is dependant on many things but the top of the list starts with Romo staying healthy. Down from there are defensive issues but RB isn't high on that list. If something happens we'll go get another. It's August 18th and while ESPN and NFLN are convinced we have a major issue at that position I'm still not seeing the Cowboys making a move for a big name player.

 

[NEODOG]

There were still good runningbacks right up till round 4 but instead they took Chaz Green which I believe to be a reach. I think now they are regretting that pick especially since Green hasn't even sniffed the training field

Luckily we don't base all this on our drafts then....

I'd be more pissed at giving up picks to move up & select MO who hasn't see the field constantly..... Than the 4th we used on Green, who will end up on PUP for 6wks....

 

[Doomsday101]

We will never know if Garrett was on board with the Gregory pick. One thing we do know is they weren't looking at RB's that early. While you may think Green was a reach, why would the Cowboys be regretting that pick? The Cowboys knew he was hurt when they picked him and expected Green to possibly start the season on the PUP. There is no reason to think that they are regretting any picks for that matter. I'm not sure why you can't accept the fact they liked their RB's at that point. They didn't sign any, trade for any or draft for any. Pretty strong endorsement if you ask me. Our season is dependant on many things but the top of the list starts with Romo staying healthy. Down from there are defensive issues but RB isn't high on that list. If something happens we'll go get another. It's August 18th and while ESPN and NFLN are convinced we have a major issue at that position I'm still not seeing the Cowboys making a move for a big name player.

I don't disagree but I think Romo health and the running game go hand in hand. Dropping back 648 as he did in 2012 or 535 times in 2013 compared to 435 last season keeps him at less risk and made him more efficient as Dallas was able to keep defense honest , his TD were the 2nd highest in his career with 34 and tied his lowest total of ints

 

[CATCH17]

I don't disagree but I think Romo health and the running game go hand in hand. Dropping back 648 as he did in 2012 or 535 times in 2013 compared to 435 last season keeps him at less risk and made him more efficient as Dallas was able to keep defense honest , his TD were the 2nd highest in his career with 34 and tied his lowest total of ints

He was under 4000 yards passing too which I found incredible.

Anyways.. The Cowboys have to run the ball well.. It's what this franchise has been built upon and when you're offense isn't dynamic you need to be able to impose your will on the ground.

 

[ConstantReboot]

We will never know if Garrett was on board with the Gregory pick. One thing we do know is they weren't looking at RB's that early. While you may think Green was a reach, why would the Cowboys be regretting that pick? The Cowboys knew he was hurt when they picked him and expected Green to possibly start the season on the PUP. There is no reason to think that they are regretting any picks for that matter. I'm not sure why you can't accept the fact they liked their RB's at that point. They didn't sign any, trade for any or draft for any. Pretty strong endorsement if you ask me. Our season is dependant on many things but the top of the list starts with Romo staying healthy. Down from there are defensive issues but RB isn't high on that list. If something happens we'll go get another. It's August 18th and while ESPN and NFLN are convinced we have a major issue at that position I'm still not seeing the Cowboys making a move for a big name player.

Its just my opinion that they are regretting that pick and nothing else. Especially that now that we have Collins. However, I still think that Green was a reach especially in the 3rd. He could have been had him in the 4th round or even later. Why use a 3rd round pick for a backup that will end up in the PUP? That doesn't make sense. Yet not use that pick to get a runningback while there were still some on board.

Yes the FO is happy with their current set of RBs. I just think we could have done better. This group has not proven that they can carry the load the entire season. Will Macfadden stay healthy the entire year? Will Randle be mature enough to stay focus and not steal any underwear? I don't even want to mention Dunbar because I don't think he should be in the lineup and could have been easily replaced with someone in the draft.

Just because the FO says their fine doesn't actually mean they are. If they were fine then why are they having Clutts sub in for the RB position and why are they still signing UDFA runningbacks off the streets?

I hope they prove me wrong and that Randle and MacFadden will be productive enough to be a factor this year. Just there are still questionmarks that are left unanswered until they prove otherwise.

 

[Doomsday101]

He was under 4000 yards passing too which I found incredible.

Anyways.. The Cowboys have to run the ball well.. It's what this franchise has been built upon and when you're offense isn't dynamic you need to be able to impose your will on the ground.

I agree, I think the more you can keep defense guessing and off balance the more efficient the offense is and besides it keeps defense from just pinning their ears back and going after Romo. I do agree about imposing your will especially late in games.
Lastly our defense benefits from it as well

 

[StarBoyz83]

I don't think he plays this year.

 

[conner01]

No I agreed with the Randy Gregory pick all the way. However, just because your happy with what you have doesn't mean it still NOT a position that need.

Murray left for free agency and there are question marks STILL not answered with the runningback situation. Like I mentioned, MacFragile has a tendency to always be injured and Randle has issues such as stealing underwear outside of football. As for Dumbar he could have easily been replaced with a midround draft pick.
Yes they didn't draft a runningback in mid rounds and there will still some that were available. However, that still leaves some questionmarks on whether this group we have now can handle the load during an entire season. I still not convinced until proven otherwise.

What I'm saying is Dallas could have done better. I'm still not sold on what we have until proven otherwise. Dallas shouldn't be satisfied either.

I also wanted a runninback
I really liked Langford and thought he was a nice fit for this team
But I trust that the staff is probably better at putting together a team than I am
I just don't get locked into any one position
To me the draft is about acquiring talent and if you trust your scouts you just follow your board
Doesn't always work out but does workout more often than chasing a position
I'm nervous about our rb's myself. I think they have the talent. My concern is about health and staying focused on football but over the last few years I've came to trust this staff

 

[big dog cowboy]

I still think that Green was a reach especially in the 3rd. He could have been had him in the 4th round or even later. Why use a 3rd round pick for a backup that will end up in the PUP? That doesn't make sense.

That is a easy trap to fall into saying a player would have been available in the next round. It doesn't always work that way especially in light of what we found out about other teams looking at Green after the draft. Why use the pick on Green? That is easy. They wanted him. You draft for the long term not the next 5 months.

 

[Doomsday101]

I also wanted a runninback
I really liked Langford and thought he was a nice fit for this team
But I trust that the staff is probably better at putting together a team than I am
I just don't get locked into any one position
To me the draft is about acquiring talent and if you trust your scouts you just follow your board
Doesn't always work out but does workout more often than chasing a position
I'm nervous about our rb's myself. I think they have the talent. My concern is about health and staying focused on football but over the last few years I've came to trust this staff

I trust the staff but it is a gamble, trying to get a RB at a cheap price and high production. 3 RB total cost of 3.5 mill for the season that is great if they pan out if not then you still saved money but it cost you on the field.

 

[AdamJT13]

swing tackle is worst in the biz.

Not even close.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The FO viewed swing tackle more valueable. No one knew we would get Collins during any portion of the draft.

Yep, and thats exactly why my point was that I bet they would take that pick back and take the back if they knew they were going to sign Collins. All that aside, I will have my doubts until this kid proves himself worth of the selection and gets on the field.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Which RB?

Great question. I probably would have traded up in the 3rd round to get someone. Not sure where we drafted was good enough. Let me take a look at the 3rd round of the draft.

 

[CowboyRoy]

The FO viewed swing tackle more valueable. No one knew we would get Collins during any portion of the draft.

Duke Johnson and Tevon Coleman were guys I really liked that went in the 3rd round. Loved Duke. Duke went 77th and Coleman went 75th.

So to move up from 91 to 77 that would have taken a 5th rounder? I would have definitely done that one.

 

[CowboyRoy]

If they had wanted a back they could have taken a back
Don't know anything about Garrett being opposed to Gregory but passing on him for a RB would have been a dumb move
Our biggest weakness last year was pass rush
Just because a guy like green doesn't contribute in year one means very little
Free didn't and he has developed into a solid tackle
The draft is not about one season
As to RB, they sure seem content with what they have, they've passed on every free agent and didn't take one in the draft
I do believe they would have taken a RB of the right guy had been there but it's very important to stick to your board and it appears they did that

How can you say a guy not contributing in the first year NOT a big thing? Especially if its a guy that missed most of the season from injury. A 3rd round pick needs to grow and practice, and play if need be. A 3rd round RB would be playing big minutes for us this year and the 2nd year.

 

[davey999]

I don't think he plays this year.

I agree. If he had a torn hip labrum repaired surgically it is a much longer recovery than what they reported.

Unless it was a partially torn one, I guess.

 

[CCBoy]

I'm still holding out hope for Collins at RT, Free as swing T

I'm like a customer entering a fine restaurant, but having his eye on a single thing on the menu: Collins, Frederick, and Martin.

 

[JohnsKey19]

I believe the staff veiws Green as a guy who probably starts after sitting/training 1 season. So the injury isn't that huge of a deal right now assuming he returns around September with no setbacks. Seriously doubt the staff envisioned Green challenging for a starting spot in 2015. This is a strong pick if he's your starting RT in 2016. Worst case, he's the swing OT in 2016.

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Duke Johnson and Tevon Coleman were guys I really liked that went in the 3rd round. Loved Duke. Duke went 77th and Coleman went 75th.

So to move up from 91 to 77 that would have taken a 5th rounder? I would have definitely done that one.

Both Duke Johnson and Tevon Coleman have been hurt in camp if I remember correctly. I think Coleman only started practicing yesterday after getting injured early.

And no thanks on giving up a 5th rounder to move up to grab some RB who would be 3rd or 4th string at best. I would much rather have DL Russell, who I think we took from Purdue with that 5th rounder.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

quote="CowboyRoy, post: 6217707, member: 34847"]Duke Johnson and Tevon Coleman were guys I really liked that went in the 3rd round. Loved Duke. Duke went 77th and Coleman went 75th.

So to move up from 91 to 77 that would have taken a 5th rounder? I would have definitely done that one.[/quote]

lol, check out what seattle gave up to move up from 95 to 69 then get back to us