Chaz Green?

[CashMan]

Did you check out what Seattle gave up to move from #95 to #69? They gave up their 3rd (95th overall), 4th (112th overall), 5th (167th overall) and 6th (181st overall). If you wanted Tevin Coleman or really even Duke Johnson, we'd have to jump from #91 to at least #72, assuming that pick was available, which means we likely have to give up a similar package to Seattle.

If you wanted to give up only a 5th, it likely means you targeted David Johnson and I don't think he was worth trading up for.

I am happy with their 2015 draft. Hindsight is 20/20. Would I of wanted Dallas to trade for Duke Johnson, yes. But Dallas needed a possible RT starter.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Did you check out what Seattle gave up to move from #95 to #69? They gave up their 3rd (95th overall), 4th (112th overall), 5th (167th overall) and 6th (181st overall). If you wanted Tevin Coleman or really even Duke Johnson, we'd have to jump from #91 to at least #72, assuming that pick was available, which means we likely have to give up a similar package to Seattle.

Yep, thats why I said I wouldn't have traded up.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did you check out what Seattle gave up to move from #95 to #69? They gave up their 3rd (95th overall), 4th (112th overall), 5th (167th overall) and 6th (181st overall). If you wanted Tevin Coleman or really even Duke Johnson, we'd have to jump from #91 to at least #72, assuming that pick was available, which means we likely have to give up a similar package to Seattle.

If you wanted to give up only a 5th, it likely means you targeted David Johnson and I don't think he was worth trading up for.

Interesting. I would not have given all that up. Its appears that the RB situation just didnt fall our way in this draft from where we were sitting. They all seemed to go early in the rounds. There was another guy I like from Oregon that we could have taken. But others did pass on him as well.

Either way, I didnt and dont like our 3rd round pick. Lets hope he proves me wrong. If he can become a Doug Free type player in two years, then it would be worth it.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Did you check out what Seattle gave up to move from #95 to #69? They gave up their 3rd (95th overall), 4th (112th overall), 5th (167th overall) and 6th (181st overall). If you wanted Tevin Coleman or really even Duke Johnson, we'd have to jump from #91 to at least #72, assuming that pick was available, which means we likely have to give up a similar package to Seattle.

If you wanted to give up only a 5th, it likely means you targeted David Johnson and I don't think he was worth trading up for.

I would have given up a 5th and 6th. Not the 4th.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I would have given up a 5th and 6th. Not the 4th.

no guarantee that giving up the 5th+6th gets the deal done, it was a long way up

 

[CowboyRoy]

no guarantee that giving up the 5th+6th gets the deal done, it was a long way up

No guarantees for sure. I really liked the Oregon back as well and he was available in the 3rd.

 

[dallasdave]

No guarantees for sure. I really liked the Oregon back as well and he was available in the 3rd.

Sure use a RB now !

 

[dallasdave]

Interesting. I would not have given all that up. Its appears that the RB situation just didnt fall our way in this draft from where we were sitting. They all seemed to go early in the rounds. There was another guy I like from Oregon that we could have taken. But others did pass on him as well.

Either way, I didnt and dont like our 3rd round pick. Lets hope he proves me wrong. If he can become a Doug Free type player in two years, then it would be worth it.

Totally agree !!!

 

[Manwiththeplan]

No guarantees for sure. I really liked the Oregon back as well and he was available in the 3rd.

neither Oregon or Oregon state had a RB drafted this year

 

[CashMan]

neither Oregon or Oregon state had a RB drafted this year

We still could of gotten him in the 3rd!

 

[Knotamus]

Nothing I say in this forum is going to change the minds of the people who are panicking ab the running back position... I get that. I should admit that I figured Dallas was going to pick a RB early in the draft too, but they didn't. They know more ab these players than anyone on this site, so I'll "trust the process". Good thing is.. Word out of camp is Randle and McFadden both are looking really good. So that's encouraging for all parties. And to the folks that keep talking ab McFadden's injury history... Same thing can be said ab Murray. Moving on...
As far as Green goes.. It was a bit of a head scratcher for me too, but based on the health of our OL at the moment, I sure wish he was out there right now. If he was healthy and showing promise, we could prob use Leary or Bernadeau as trade bait for another RB to satisfy the doubters. I understand the pick though. Dallas needed a swing Tackle and had no idea Collins would be available. But Green is a beast also as he only gave up one sack in college from what I understand. This move guarantees that are OL will remain strong for a long time and this makes everybody else on offensive that much better, including young RBs, old and rookie Qbs, and pushes are young DL. Whether folks like it or not... The Dallas Cowboys have a plan and are finally sticking to it. Randle and McFadden WILL surprise people! And you can quote me as saying so.

 

[CowboyRoy]

neither Oregon or Oregon state had a RB drafted this year

Ah, you are correct. It was Jay Ajayi out of Boise State.

Really like that guy coming out. I was very puzzled we passed on him. I believe it was an injury concern before the draft that made him drop.

 

[Doomsday101]

Nothing I say in this forum is going to change the minds of the people who are panicking ab the running back position... I get that. I should admit that I figured Dallas was going to pick a RB early in the draft too, but they didn't. They know more ab these players than anyone on this site, so I'll "trust the process". Good thing is.. Word out of camp is Randle and McFadden both are looking really good. So that's encouraging for all parties. And to the folks that keep talking ab McFadden's injury history... Same thing can be said ab Murray. Moving on...
As far as Green goes.. It was a bit of a head scratcher for me too, but based on the health of our OL at the moment, I sure wish he was out there right now. If he was healthy and showing promise, we could prob use Leary or Bernadeau as trade bait for another RB to satisfy the doubters. I understand the pick though. Dallas needed a swing Tackle and had no idea Collins would be available. But Green is a beast also as he only gave up one sack in college from what I understand. This move guarantees that are OL will remain strong for a long time and this makes everybody else on offensive that much better, including young RBs, old and rookie Qbs, and pushes are young DL. Whether folks like it or not... The Dallas Cowboys have a plan and are finally sticking to it. Randle and McFadden WILL surprise people! And you can quote me as saying so.

I'm pulling for Randle and McFadden but I will say McFadden injuries are a concern. You name Murray and in 2 of his 4 years your right he dealt with injuries difference is McFadden has been in the league for 7 season and has yet to post a great season. Career numbers in 7 years McFadden has 4,247 with 25 TD. In 4 years Murray has 4,526 yards and 28 TD despite playing 3 fewer years.

No doubt some of us are concerned about the run game in large part it played a big role in 12-4 and losing your top RB makes it a concern.

McFadden has a chance to come to Dallas and make a difference I hope he does.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Nothing I say in this forum is going to change the minds of the people who are panicking ab the running back position... I get that. I should admit that I figured Dallas was going to pick a RB early in the draft too, but they didn't. They know more ab these players than anyone on this site, so I'll "trust the process". Good thing is.. Word out of camp is Randle and McFadden both are looking really good. So that's encouraging for all parties. And to the folks that keep talking ab McFadden's injury history... Same thing can be said ab Murray. Moving on...
As far as Green goes.. It was a bit of a head scratcher for me too, but based on the health of our OL at the moment, I sure wish he was out there right now. If he was healthy and showing promise, we could prob use Leary or Bernadeau as trade bait for another RB to satisfy the doubters. I understand the pick though. Dallas needed a swing Tackle and had no idea Collins would be available. But Green is a beast also as he only gave up one sack in college from what I understand. This move guarantees that are OL will remain strong for a long time and this makes everybody else on offensive that much better, including young RBs, old and rookie Qbs, and pushes are young DL. Whether folks like it or not... The Dallas Cowboys have a plan and are finally sticking to it. Randle and McFadden WILL surprise people! And you can quote me as saying so.

I guess that is the difference. You seem to trust the process completely. And although they have earned it more of late with the draft, in no way does this team or anyone else make zero mistakes. And its fun to talk about what many of us would or would not have done different.

Randle I like and I am looking forward to him proving people wrong. McFadden has 8 years of history that is not good. And although he will have some big plays behind this line, and could be a weapon used here and there with this line, he is not the answer by any stretch. The RB position is sort of a free flowing position from year to year. And like you said, we were all hoping for a top back in this draft.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I'm pulling for Randle and McFadden but I will say McFadden injuries are a concern. You name Murray and in 2 of his 4 years your right he dealt with injuries difference is McFadden has been in the league for 7 season and has yet to post a great season. Career numbers in 7 years McFadden has 4,247 with 25 TD. In 4 years Murray has 4,526 yards and 28 TD despite playing 3 fewer years.

No doubt some of us are concerned about the run game in large part it played a big role in 12-4 and losing your top RB makes it a concern.

McFadden has a chance to come to Dallas and make a difference I hope he does.

Some of these cats would be behind any and all backs if they Cowboys signed them. They listen to Jerry pump the cool aid and they buy all of it.

The fact remains that although I like Randle the RB position is a weakness with many question marks and 2 injury prone players as backups.

 

[Doomsday101]

Some of these cats would be behind any and all backs if they Cowboys signed them. They listen to Jerry pump the cool aid and they buy all of it.

The fact remains that although I like Randle the RB position is a weakness with many question marks and 2 injury prone players as backups.

I agree it is a question mark, how much if any will it be a weakness is yet to be determined. I would not be shocked to see McFadden do well in Dallas, I think he is a guy that has very good talent and I think he sees this as a great opportunity for him. As I mentioned he is a concern as is the running game in general because none of us know how it will play out.

After 2013 season I was feeling good about Murray and the run game and in 2014 went well beyond expectation so now to revert back to not knowing what to expect has me uneasy.

 

[CowboyRoy]

I agree it is a question mark, how much if any will it be a weakness is yet to be determined. I would not be shocked to see McFadden do well in Dallas, I think he is a guy that has very good talent and I think he sees this as a great opportunity for him. As I mentioned he is a concern as is the running game in general because none of us know how it will play out.

After 2013 season I was feeling good about Murray and the run game and in 2014 went well beyond expectation so now to revert back to not knowing what to expect has me uneasy.

I think that any good back can do well behind this line in this offense. But these same cats that have injury problems continue to be dinged up. Even if they werent, I would be looking at good backs when cut downs happen. Which I am sure they will be.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

Ah, you are correct. It was Jay Ajayi out of Boise State.

Really like that guy coming out. I was very puzzled we passed on him. I believe it was an injury concern before the draft that made him drop.

He'll be available soon. He's stinking it up in Miami.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I hope so. Stating OL is best in the biz, interior backups are best in the biz, swing tackle is worst in the biz.

worst? how do you know?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Unless he becomes a really quality player I'll believe they should've taken an RB in that spot until the death of me.

I disagree unless the available RBs were rated higher than him. plus we took randle a couple of years ago for this very purpose. so why take another 4th round RB? will that RB be better than Randle? if not then he is back up. we also need swing tackle back up as its a thin position as well.