Cobb and Cowboys close to deal

[eternaljester81]

2018 Catch rate
Target 10+ yards
Packers
Cobb 33% (7 of 21) 2 td
others 49% (86 of 177) 15 td

Cowboys
Beasley 75% (18 of 24) 2 td
others 47% (71 of 151) 13 td

Target 10-19 yards ONLY
Cobb 45% (5 of 11) 1 td
Beasley 84% (16 of 19) 1 td

This obviously shows how much more accurate Dak is than Rodgers

 

[Doomsday101]

In theory, yes. But it again has me wondering why Beasley's overall numbers the past three years were better, despite yet another presumed advantage Cobb should have had.

Cobb is supposedly faster, more versatile, and some claim "just better", and yet the production numbers don't support it.

Cobb has been dealing with injury which is why the numbers have been down and a concern I would have with him

Cobb, 28, is entering his eighth campaign after being a second-round pick of Green Bay in the 2011 draft. As a former college quarterback, he has excelled as a slot specialist for the Packers for many of those seasons. His recent production in the last few years has been curtailed by concussion and hamstring issues.

Cobb has missed six different stretches of games due to injury over the last three seasons.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ndall-cobb-clayton-geathers-2019-free-agency/

 

[tyke1doe]

From Aaron Rodgers to Dak Prescott.

 

[SoupcanSam]

cbs sports radio just reported that cowboys and Cobb are close to deal.

Cobb is also only 28 years old. Still a little young. We'd be receiving some decent last years out of him.

I could easily see him here for 4-5 years.

 

[Stash]

Cobb has been dealing with injury which is why the numbers have been down and a concern I would have with him

Cobb, 28, is entering his eighth campaign after being a second-round pick of Green Bay in the 2011 draft. As a former college quarterback, he has excelled as a slot specialist for the Packers for many of those seasons. His recent production in the last few years has been curtailed by concussion and hamstring issues.

Cobb has missed six different stretches of games due to injury over the last three seasons.

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/20...ndall-cobb-clayton-geathers-2019-free-agency/

Exactly the biggest concern I have with the signing, followed by the amount of money they would be paying him.

If you can sign him for what Beasley was making? I'd be OK with the signing. But I feel he's still looking for anything close to the $10 million a year Green Bay was paying him? Yeah, that's a no for me.

 

[CWR]

cbs sports radio just reported that cowboys and Cobb are close to deal.

 

[OmerV]

And the more opportunities the guys receiving better thrown passes - and more of them - get to put up better numbers than others do. Such as guys like Cole Beasley playing with a lesser passer.

We are talking about the distribution of passes among receivers, not the quality of the QB. I haven’t argued that Green Bay receivers don’t get better passes than Cowboy receivers, but it was the same guy throwing balls in Green Bay before Devonte Adams broke out and after, and for Devonte Adams to start getting 120-160 targets a year, somebody else had to lose targets. It doesn’t matter if it’s Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Babe Laughenberg, when a new stud receiver emerges it changes how the passes are distributed among the receivers.

 

[Stash]

We are talking about the distribution of passes among receivers, not the quality of the QB. I haven’t argued that Green Bay receivers don’t get better passes than Cowboy receivers, but it was the same guy throwing balls in Green Bay before Devonte Adams broke out and after, and for Devonte Adams to start getting 120-160 targets a year, somebody else had to lose targets. It doesn’t matter if it’s Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers or Babe Laughenberg, when a new stud receiver emerges it changes how the passes are distributed among the receivers.

And quarterbacks throw to open receivers. If that was Cobb - like in 2014 - he was getting the ball. If he's isn't open, it's going elsewhere. Quarterbacking 101. But it's funny to now read about the reverence for the great Davante Adams, the very latest receiver made by Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Swagger]

Jesus wept.

The guy is always injured.

He would be a horrific signing.

 

[DRella]

Nothing reported yet my guess is Cobb left without a contract. Which normally isn't a good sign.

I think this would have been a terrific signing to replace Beasley. Definitely an upgrade. Unfortunate it couldn't get done.

 

[Carson]

Nothing reported yet my guess is Cobb left without a contract. Which normally isn't a good sign.

I think this would have been a terrific signing to replace Beasley. Definitely an upgrade. Unfortunate it couldn't get done.

I agree. They said they met around 330 and should’ve left after.

Super odd timing to think something happened that late at night

 

[Doomsday101]

Exactly the biggest concern I have with the signing, followed by the amount of money they would be paying him.

If you can sign him for what Beasley was making? I'd be OK with the signing. But I feel he's still looking for anything close to the $10 million a year Green Bay was paying him? Yeah, that's a no for me.

The amount and structure of the contract is important in my view as well. I'm not opposed to him and would think all these guys are getting checked out medically as well. If they can't come to an agreement on a deal then I would expect to see Cowboys look for a slot WR within the draft. Frankly as I have said between Austin, Hurd as well as Cooper running routs from the slot we are not in bad shape. Also would not sleep on some of the young guys like Reggie Davis or Devin Smith. Bottom line I don't think Dallas needs to negotiate from a desperation mindset.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

I like Bease but IMO Cobb is definitely an upgrade

Seems more like an even swap, having Rodgers throwing the ball to Cobb is undoubtedly better than Dak throwing to him, at least at this point. And you have to factor in the fact that Cobb had more passes thrown his way in his best years than Beasley had, not sure Cobb will get enough targets to make his production much better than Beasley.

Guess we'll see...

 

[Miller]

I’m a believer that once a WR loses that “gear” or whatever makes them special due to injuries then it’s gone for good. Can someone tell me a productive guy who took some years being down and then it all comes back? This is “meh” to me like the Austin trade. Im not sure how anyone can call this an upgrade when Bease was healthy and productive

 

[Stash]

The amount and structure of the contract is important in my view as well. I'm not opposed to him and would think all these guys are getting checked out medically as well. If they can't come to an agreement on a deal then I would expect to see Cowboys look for a slot WR within the draft. Frankly as I have said between Austin, Hurd as well as Cooper running routs from the slot we are not in bad shape. Also would not sleep on some of the young guys like Reggie Davis or Devin Smith. Bottom line I don't think Dallas needs to negotiate from a desperation mindset.

Same here. In fact, I'm a bit surprised that they're talking with Cobb at all.

If it were my decision, I'd be looking at adding Duke Johnson and his versatility to backup Elliott and run some plays out of the slot before I'd be looking to pay Cobb.

 

[LACowboysFan1]

Bottom line I don't think Dallas needs to negotiate from a desperation mindset.

Agreed, Dallas has options right now at the slot position, anytime you can upgrade is nice, but to this point slot receiver hasn't been a huge emphasis in the Dallas offense. Moore might change that, of course...

 

[Stash]

I’m a believer that once a WR loses that “gear” or whatever makes them special due to injuries then it’s gone for good. Can someone tell me a productive guy who took some years being down and then it all comes back. This is “meh” to me like the Austin trade. It sure how anyone can call this an upgrade when Bease was healthy and productive

Yep.

It hasn't been just one declining year, it's been three consecutive years. That's a pattern.

In fact, if you look at his career, it's been one huge year surrounded by a few good ones, and the past three mediocre ones. He saved his best for his contract year and then disappointed since.

 

[Swanny]

If healthy Cobb is better than Beasley no doubt. But Cobb is NEVER healthy. I wouldn't mind the signing if it's 1 or 2 years for say 3 million per.

 

[Ranched]

Strange. Earlier said we were far apart???

I read that today.

cbs sports radio just reported that cowboys and Cobb are close to deal.

Cowboys are meeting with Geathers as well.

 

[Doomsday101]

Same here. In fact, I'm a bit surprised that they're talking with Cobb at all.

If it were my decision, I'd be looking at adding Duke Johnson and his versatility to backup Elliott and run some plays out of the slot before I'd be looking to pay Cobb.

Myself I like CJ Anderson who is a FA instead of giving up any pick.