Cobb signs for 4yrs 40mil

[cowboyvic]

Kareem Jackson got 20 million guaranteed. Yes, I can't believe it either. Cobb who has 1 good year and played mostly in the slot is now making 10 million a year and he probably left money on the table. Just wait till McCourty and Maxwell sign a deal.

BINGO. you get it man. Cowboys need to just pay the man. Dez earned it.

 

[Nation]

He is worth every penny of that 30 million guarantee. pay the man his money. he earned it.

Why pay him 30 guaranteed now though when you can pay him 12 this year and 15 next year worry free under the franchise tag? Negotiations are give and takes under the salary cap.

 

[funkytown]

BINGO. you get it man. Cowboys need to just pay the man. Dez earned it.

"Just pay the man" rarely works in the NFL. See Marion Barber, Ken Hamlin, Jay Ratliff, etc,etc.

But if one player is worth the money, its Dez. Love him as a player. Love his passion. He wants to win so bad and he wants to win in Dallas. Pay him.

 

[perrykemp]

I don't think this changes much with a Dez contract too much. It may bring down the guaranteed money some but that may be it.

This.

To me, essentially Dez and Cobb play different positions. Cobb is probably the best slot WR in the NFL at this point, however, the fact of the matter is that slot WRs don't get paid nearly like the Split Ends and Flankers.

If anything, Cobb getting $10m/year tells me Dez's contract will need to come in between $13-14m/year.

 

[LatinMind]

That's a fair deal in my eyes. but give him 30 million up front. Dez may go for that.

I been saying that these WRs were overpricing themselves. Its one thing to want a number, but its another to have a team willing to pay that. I have no doubt that Dallas and dez both have a number on a avg of 12-13mil per yr. Fisher and TC have both said the issue is not the off the field and that influencing the guaranteed. It is the amount of yrs, and that influencing the guaranteed money. What that says to me is Dallas is trying to get a shorter deal and the guaranteed money being on par with the amount of yr. And Dez isnt liking that. Both have said the team doesnt seem to want to be paying money on aging players anymore. And thats on par on what we are hearing with Romo and the team trying to get that big money out of the way now rather then later

 

[Nightman]

Dez 41 touch downs the last 3 years. Cobb is not even close.do not compare the two players. pay this man.

Cobb is a certifiable WR1. Don't fool yourself. 90 catches 1300 yds 12 TDs speaks for itself. They just happen to have 2 #1s in GB.

WR has been trending down and by a lot.

 

[perrykemp]

Taking considerably less money, to stay and play for the team that drafted him. A place where he feels comfortable. Fans who advocate that we sign Dez no matter what, don't understand the business and do very little to promote him being able to return on a team friendly deal.

Cobb only had to look at Greg Jennings and James Jones who took more money and left.

Yes, they are slightly richer men, but now they are now no-bodies who watch the playoffs on TV instead of playing in them.

Playing for a winning team (that drafted you) for a elite QB is worth providing a home-town discount. At least that's the way I hope Dez looks at it.

 

[Jenky]

Cobb- 91 catches 1,287 yards 12 touchdowns
Bryant- 88 catches 1,320 yards 16 touchdowns

While Cobb is not quite on Dez level, he's a big time player. That contract was good for both sides.

I don't think anyone is debating if Cobb is a better receiver than Dez. But I think Cobb is better than your average #2. He and Jordy Nelson are 1a and 1b in my opinion. Looks like Green Bay agrees. They could have let Cobb go and gave the #2 job to Davante Adams. All of us should know who he (Adams) is by now.

That's Cobb's best year and he mostly played in the slot. It yielded him a 10 million / per year contract. Now do the math with Bryant and see that he's doubled Cobb in career TDs.

Also I still say Cobb took a discount, and people are using this number as a baseline?

 

[funkytown]

Cobb is a certifiable WR1. Don't fool yourself. 90 catches 1300 yds 12 TDs speaks for itself. They just happen to have 2 #1s in GB.

WR has been trending down and by a lot.

I agree. Both of those guys are #1's. Regardless where Cobb lines up, slot or on the outside. He's productive. Same numbers as Dez with 4 less touchdowns.

 

[funkytown]

That's Cobbs best year and he mostly played in the slot. It yielded him a 10 million / per year contract. Now do the math with Bryant and see that he's doubled Cobb in career TDs.

Also I still say Cobb took a discount, and people are using this number as baseline?

I agree. I think he took a discount, and he's smart for doing it.

Still doesn't take away the fact he's a really good receiver. Slot receiver or not, he's good.

 

[perrykemp]

Also I still say Cobb took a discount, and people are using this number as a baseline?

My guess is Cobb could have gotten $11m..... maybe $11.5 or $12m had he left GB and took a deal from the Raiders and Jaguars -- both who have tons of cap space.

 

[cowboyvic]

Why pay him 30 guaranteed now though when you can pay him 12 this year and 15 next year worry free under the franchise tag? Negotiations are give and takes under the salary cap.

Green Bay could have done the same with Cobb. but they went on and locked him up for the long run.that's what you do with your play makers.

 

[Nation]

Kareem Jackson got 20 million guaranteed. Yes, I can't believe it either. Cobb who has 1 good year and played mostly in the slot is now making 10 million a year and he probably left money on the table. Just wait till McCourty and Maxwell sign a deal.

Yeah but his 20 million deal was on a 4 year 34 million contract though with 59% of the deal guaranteed. If you did the same thing with Dez on a 30 million deal that would mathematically be 4 years 51 million (12.75 a year) which the Cowboys would do in a heartbeat.

 

[funkytown]

My guess is Cobb could have gotten $11m..... maybe $11.5 or $12m had he left GB and took a deal from the Raiders and Jaguars -- both who have tons of cap space.

12 sounds about right. But with those teams having a ton of cap space, and mandatory that they use it. He may have gotten more.
Greenbay was smart for locking him up before free agency started.

 

[Nightman]

Why pay him 30 guaranteed now though when you can pay him 12 this year and 15 next year worry free under the franchise tag? Negotiations are give and takes under the salary cap.

Because he is a FA after the 2 years instead of under contract for 5 more years. They would have paid 28m, gotten no cap relief and would still lose him.

OTOH Dez is being unreasonable if he won't take 28m guaranteed on a 6-7 year deal. Dez needs to bet on himslef a little and he will stay in Dallas for 6-7 more years. He will get more elsewhere, but is that all he wants???

 

[btcutter]

That's Cobb's best year and he mostly played in the slot. It yielded him a 10 million / per year contract. Now do the math with Bryant and see that he's doubled Cobb in career TDs.

Also I still say Cobb took a discount, and people are using this number as a baseline?

Don't believe this discount thing. Level headed player and agents realize that WRs depends on QB and there only a handful of those QBs who can make you productive and increase your value.

Just look at GB and all their previous all world WRs now playing for bunch of nobodies and we never hear from them again.

 

[Nation]

Green Bay could have done the same with Cobb. but they went on and locked him up for the long run.that's what you do with your play makers.

If our play maker is willing to do a deal that's even somewhat as reasonable as Cobb's he will be locked up too

 

[cowboyvic]

Cobb is a certifiable WR1. Don't fool yourself. 90 catches 1300 yds 12 TDs speaks for itself. They just happen to have 2 #1s in GB.

WR has been trending down and by a lot.

Would the cowboys ever pay 2 WR that much money?NO WAY. keep Romo all his weapons.meaning bring back both Dez and Murray.Jerry has the money to do it. and he needs to use some of that money.

 

[Jenky]

Yeah but his 20 million deal was on a 4 year 34 million contract though with 59% of the deal guaranteed. If you did the same thing with Dez on a 30 million deal that would mathematically be 4 years 51 million (12.75 a year) which the Cowboys would do in a heartbeat.

Right and those guys I mentioned: Jackson, Maxwell, and McCourty aren't even superstar status but are getting paid no matter what. So I don't see why people are balking at the thought of giving Bryant more guaranteed money. Fans would love it if he took a home town discount, but I don't expect any player to do so.

 

[yimyammer]

BINGO. you get it man. Cowboys need to just pay the man. Dez earned it.

Exacty,! Cut everyone and give Dez the entire cap and put him out there by himself, he's that good!