Could Ronald Jones be primary backup RB?

[gimmesix]

I dont see him as aag key role or role because if they go RBBC it is key role as they all have different skill set and deepening on the game, opponent, and situation they all could be KEY week to week. hes ben vey on few SB teams has he now..if hes good enough to back up Fournette and kc backs why not here?? stil this fanbase claled players like heath a Jag and he was a key player but not a star,

I consider RB No. 2 a key role, but it will be interesting to see how they fill it. For instance, if Dallas uses Luepke as a short-yardage back, then that changes the dynamics of how often Pollard needs a break since he's not out there on those downs. We still will need someone who can sub in for Pollard for a few series per game to keep from wearing him down, and that's where either Jones or Vaughn or possibly both come in IMO. If Jones is playing two or three series as the main back, I consider that a key role.

 

[conner01]

What I see from Jones

-North/South style running
-Good power
-Decent vision
-Adequate speed
-Low miles

What I don't see from Jones

-Short area quickness to change direction on a dime
-Regular ability to make people miss


Don't know what to expect but liken the move similarly to Alfred Morris coming in. Experienced vet with production who's just a productive runner that gets yards.

I think they brought him in because he’s a solid vet. The issue is he doesn’t play ST much. I think last year was first time in his career to play ST. Davis does play ST but not as proven
I think we do carry a FB who is capable short yardage guy but a rookie.
It should be a nice little competition in camp

 

[visionary]

Pollard has only missed 2 games in four years.

And as usual, I’ll keep reiterating that with an all purpose type back, it’s more important about “touches” than it is carries.
It’s the combination of run/catch that should present the biggest danger to defenses, and the overall effectiveness and impact of a back like Pollard.
Kellen did not fully exploit the talents of Pollard.

Kellen did not utilize Pollard’s full skill set as a receiver. Moore was even subpar when it came to using RB screens
That should change mightily under McCarthy/Schottenheimer now.

Pollard average rushes/game from NFL.com

2022: 12, injured
2021: 9
2020: 6

And this guy will be able to give us 20+ carries a game for 17-20 games and maintain an effective running threat on a team that wants to run more this year ?

LOL

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Assuming that Vaughn and Luepke would both be poached from the practice squad, they will both make the final 53 if Dallas likes what they see. Pollard makes 3.

Since neither Vaughn or Luepke is an every down back, Dallas has to keep a fourth as Pollard's backup. Davis is the odd man out unless he can beat out Jones.

4 RB's is a full room- but Luepke's versatility earns him a spot and likely limits the team to 3 TE's.

The game day roster is tricky. Do they bring all four active?

 

[CowboyFrog]

Assuming that Vaughn and Luepke would both be poached from the practice squad, they will both make the final 53 if Dallas likes what they see. Pollard makes 3.

Since neither Vaughn or Luepke is an every down back, Dallas has to keep a fourth as Pollard's backup. Davis is the odd man out unless he can beat out Jones.

4 RB's is a full room- but Luepke's versatility earns him a spot and likely limits the team to 3 TE's.

The game day roster is tricky. Do they bring all four active?

I think they do and they probably all see the ball with TP getting the most

 

[Jarntt]

How about we all leave this package all wrapped up and bundled nice and pretty like untill the tc opens and then we see what is in fact inside the said package before we jump to conclusions. Ronald Jones may or may not be the guy we want but can we wait to at least find out?

So shut down all prospective talk about all players on the site until TC? Isn't this what a message board is for in the offseason? I guess we can start another thread discussing whether Dak is the absolute greatest QB in history of the NFL or the absolute worst...those are fun...

 

[quickccc]

Pollard average rushes/game from NFL.com

2022: 12, injured
2021: 9
2020: 6

And this guy will be able to give us 20+ carries a game for 17-20 games and maintain an effective running threat on a team that wants to run more this year ?

LOL

Now you know how Pollard was used his first years in the NFL, is not on him, but on the coaches right ?
And we know well the workings of Garrett, Kellen and a non-McCarthy, right ?


i dunno WTH "injured 2022 " is supposed to mean ?

 

[quickccc]

Assuming that Vaughn and Luepke would both be poached from the practice squad, they will both make the final 53 if Dallas likes what they see. Pollard makes 3.

Since neither Vaughn or Luepke is an every down back, Dallas has to keep a fourth as Pollard's backup. Davis is the odd man out unless he can beat out Jones.

4 RB's is a full room- but Luepke's versatility earns him a spot and likely limits the team to 3 TE's.

The game day roster is tricky. Do they bring all four active?

- I'd be wondering what is about an undrafted big rookie RB (Hunter) with reported medical red flags about his shoulders, that he has such value that he will be poached from a practice squad ?
Also special teams has to come into play when talking about a very limited specialist.

- Past full backs here have always been asked to play special teams regardless of special teams coach.

- Davis is indeed at the back of the depth chart and will have to have a repeated impressive summer to again increase his chances to make the 53 roster.
What gives him a head start edge, is he's heading into his 2nd year here and the coaches are already familiar with him, as well as he has
already contributed on special teams.

 

[quickccc]

Assuming that Vaughn and Luepke would both be poached from the practice squad, they will both make the final 53 if Dallas likes what they see. Pollard makes 3.

Since neither Vaughn or Luepke is an every down back, Dallas has to keep a fourth as Pollard's backup. Davis is the odd man out unless he can beat out Jones.

4 RB's is a full room- but Luepke's versatility earns him a spot and likely limits the team to 3 TE's.

The game day roster is tricky. Do they bring all four active?

I'm just guessing at it, but i cannot recall the last time we only carried 3 TEs, .. If it were ever just 3 TEs, I think it would had to be further back in the old Jason Witten days ,right ?

Vaugh is very likely to be used as a KR on special teams at the least (bye Rico) .. I dunno what Luepke brings or has to offer to the special teams unit.

We've brought in past FBs before (undrafted or street vet) but they never seem to stick around to the 53 roster.., either released or practice squad.

 

[BlindFaith]

I think Vaughn is a lock, because Jerry will see to it that he makes the team regardless how he looks in camp. There was far too much emotion drafting him to turn around and cut him. They’ll find a role for him as a returner and have a few gadget plays for him. They may put him in the slot to give him some receiving opportunities. He’ll be here for at least one season.

So Turpin doesn't make the team? Because Jerry wants a feel good story?

 

[Big_D]

So Turpin doesn't make the team? Because Jerry wants a feel good story?

Turpin and Vaughn should both be on the roster. I don't think they want to make Vaughn the full time return man. He'll get some work there but Turpin has a big role here and that will continue.

 

[Blast From The Past]

So shut down all prospective talk about all players on the site until TC? Isn't this what a message board is for in the offseason? I guess we can start another thread discussing whether Dak is the absolute greatest QB in history of the NFL or the absolute worst...those are fun...

Talk all you want. But face it none of it is fact till the unveiling of one Ronald Jones. Then we will see what we have in him. I don't know one thing about him other than he is a back up rb. Have at ladies and germs.

 

[Typhus]

This is absolutely correct. As the roster stands right now, Jones is the #2 RB. That could change of course.

Believe its Davis and Deuce already ahead of Jones honestly.

 

[BlindFaith]

Assuming that Vaughn and Luepke would both be poached from the practice squad, they will both make the final 53 if Dallas likes what they see. Pollard makes 3.

Since neither Vaughn or Luepke is an every down back, Dallas has to keep a fourth as Pollard's backup. Davis is the odd man out unless he can beat out Jones.

4 RB's is a full room- but Luepke's versatility earns him a spot and likely limits the team to 3 TE's.

The game day roster is tricky. Do they bring all four active?

Good lord we overestimate guys who have yet to play a single snap, yet want to cut guys in their second and third years.

Rush was on the street after camp last year, a QB and no one picked him up. Almost every team has RBs already on their teams that will be cut after camp. 14 RBs were drafted before Vaughn. Lupke wasnt even drafted. But theyd be poached by the same 31 teams that passed them by for 7 rounds. Lmao

 

[mattjames2010]

Now you know how Pollard was used his first years in the NFL, is not on him, but on the coaches right ?
And we know well the workings of Garrett, Kellen and a non-McCarthy, right ?


i dunno WTH "injured 2022 " is supposed to mean ?

Do you guys want Pollard to have to bulk up to get more carries? There are negatives that come with that. Pollard's biggest positive right now is relatively fresh legs being able to take it to the house or have a long run/reception.

Nobody should be against him touching the ball 12-15 times a game.

 

[Typhus]

I consider RB No. 2 a key role, but it will be interesting to see how they fill it. For instance, if Dallas uses Luepke as a short-yardage back, then that changes the dynamics of how often Pollard needs a break since he's not out there on those downs. We still will need someone who can sub in for Pollard for a few series per game to keep from wearing him down, and that's where either Jones or Vaughn or possibly both come in IMO. If Jones is playing two or three series as the main back, I consider that a key role.

Rotate, rotate, rotate... platooning your RBs and having different packages for different defensive looks is a huge advantage.
The glory days of the every down dominant back.. Emmitt, Sanders, etc. have faded and having versatility in the backfield preserves who you have there.

 

[Ekspozed]

Im not excited about Ronald Jones to be honest

im hoping for a rotatation of Pollard, Vaughn and Davis....with Hunter being the up back and getting short yardage goalline carries

He's definitely better than davis.

 

[Big_D]

Rotate, rotate, rotate... platooning your RBs and having different packages for different defensive looks is a huge advantage.
The glory days of the every down dominant back.. Emmitt, Sanders, etc. have faded and having versatility in the backfield preserves who you have there.

This is exqactly what needed to happen. Rotate and have fresh legs.

 

[BlindFaith]

Turpin and Vaughn should both be on the roster. I don't think they want to make Vaughn the full time return man. He'll get some work there but Turpin has a big role here and that will continue.

What big role does Turpin have? Do we watch the same games? Should he have a bigger role? I have no idea. Someone last year figured he shouldnt.

So you think we should split up the 4 or 5 kick returns and 4 or 5 punt returns between two guys that will do virtually nothing else.

I hate the fact we have two guys already, Turpin and Goodwin, that only play special teams. That hurt us last year when we were pulling guys in off the street every week to play corner. All while our special teams ace watched.

And now you want to add another one.

 

[CyberB0b]

Yes. He’s a solid #2.