Chasing6
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You typed in but they had a 4.4 TE in NE.
Could somebody explain to me why this team drafted a TE in the 2nd round?
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Yes, they did. In a 2 TE set, at least of them must be a speed guy, basically a WR.
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A Ferguson and a Schultz would have worked just fine.
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Nope. Easily covered.
And think about it. If using two TE's who are both of the 4.6 variety worked, then why isn't everyone doing it?
I'm not a Pats fan, so I don't know all the particulars, but from what I know, when they ran a two TE set it was w/ two TE's(Gronk/Hernandez) who were both stellar receivers and both very fast.
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So Ferguson is easy to cover with an 80% completion %. Ok, if you say so.
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Folks had hoped he would be but no one truly knew, sane with other positions. Question would you grab Bowers if he were available?
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Man, you really are having problems comprehending this.
Two chain moving TE's is not what works in a 2 TE set. When NE was running it they had two studs.
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I'd say that we knew. Not sure why you didn't think so, he'd shown the ability to get open, block, and get some YAC. What exactly are you pointing at w/ Fergie that you didn't notice?
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You are not understanding. You don't have to stay in a 2 TE set. When offensive personnel goes on the field, defenses reacts and send out theirs.
We could send out 3 TE's and split 2 of them our if we want to. If our WR's area struggling and we have talent sitting there at TE on the bench , how about using it. They were drafted in the 2nd for a reason right.
What personnel would a defense send out on a short yardage play with 3 TE's? Then what are they going to when you shift and split out Schoonmaker and Ferguson. Are they going to have an extra DT cover him?
It is not hard to figure out.
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I'm saying when Schultz was here didmt see enough to be certain. He had flashes but so did the Hendershot or whatever his name is
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Can someone explain to me why fans insist on living in the past?
Can someone explain to me why some fans don’t understand the entire notion of 2 tightend set, and how important it is to success in the running game?
Can someone explain to me why fans want to negatively judge draft picks after only 1 season?
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Yes. Because then present was supposed to be FA and we did not have one.
Should we live in the future???
If so, I would like to celebrate our 10th SB victory. I choose to skip 6,7,8 and 9.
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Instant gratification society we live in.
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Only if one of the TE's is a freakishly athletic and fast. You're correct, it isn't hard to figure out.
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If you can't get get it then that's your problem. Just look at all of the 2nd rounders drafted by Dallas that hasn't done squat! If you don't like it then tune me out.
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I think it starts with not participating in free agency. How does that improve our team?
We are supposed to be excited thinking somehow our back up players are going to play better than the starters from last year?
We are drafting in the back 3rd of the first 3 rounds, no fourth and comp picks at the end of each round.
Cowboys historically don't know how to use a 2 TE set. We have never involved 2 TE's in the passing game. So go ahead and advertise it is a run play.
First round draft picks should make an impact. Mazi did not. Everything about this pick and what they decided to do with him was a disaster. This year will be like a do-over.
Second round picks should actually be a part of the game plan. Schoon was a blocker only. This is not how he was advertised. Why draft a blocking TE in round 2?
Only excitement about the 2023 draft class so far is the one that did not play. Think about that for a moment. So we have some hope there.
From there down we have to have patients and that those picks can develop, but teams expect the top 3 picks to contribute at least something.
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Probably the first bizarre moment in the 2023 draft was when the Cowboys brain trust wasted a 2nd rd pick on a TE when they already had two TEs, one OUTSATNDING and one VERY GOOD on their roster. The Cowboys should have taken a LBer or another very fat run stopper with the pick.
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It should have been O'Cyrus.
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X gadzillions.
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Team drafted a TE in the very early rounds as high as the 2nd round because .. apparently at the time, they obviously did not
trust or have faith in TE Jake Ferguson.
Not convinced from what little flash or substance that they observed from Ferguson.
To this day i wonder if there could have been mixed views within the organization that suggest we were divided upon needing a new, starting TE,
or could they trust what they saw in Ferguson.
It became apparent that the doubt side won and the word was out that we were frafting a TE .. no matter what.
In fact, Schoomaker was Not the TE, Source reports says the TE the Cowboys really coveted ... that was actually Lions TE Sam Laporta.
who picked Laporta early than before the Cowboys in that 2nd round.
Laporta is not big in blocking, but he creates separation vs coverage, has great knack for pass game, and can run after the catch.
And all indications he will be an annual Pro Bowler for years to come.
Yes, it's too early to judge Schoon, and we just have not seen his best work in pass game. but in this Mac offense early on, he's being used much more
as an in-line blocker than a weapon threat receiver. Only just a handful of catches is not enuff to get the best clue of him and his potential.
trust or have faith in TE Jake Ferguson.
Not convinced from what little flash or substance that they observed from Ferguson.
To this day i wonder if there could have been mixed views within the organization that suggest we were divided upon needing a new, starting TE,
or could they trust what they saw in Ferguson.
It became apparent that the doubt side won and the word was out that we were frafting a TE .. no matter what.
In fact, Schoomaker was Not the TE, Source reports says the TE the Cowboys really coveted ... that was actually Lions TE Sam Laporta.
who picked Laporta early than before the Cowboys in that 2nd round.
Laporta is not big in blocking, but he creates separation vs coverage, has great knack for pass game, and can run after the catch.
And all indications he will be an annual Pro Bowler for years to come.
Yes, it's too early to judge Schoon, and we just have not seen his best work in pass game. but in this Mac offense early on, he's being used much more
as an in-line blocker than a weapon threat receiver. Only just a handful of catches is not enuff to get the best clue of him and his potential.