Cowboys could go Effiert @18

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Bagby;5053361 said:
Yes, but that is the kind of scenario we seem to be staring in the face. The choice may come down to Eifert and Vaccaro and there is a big difference between the best TE in the class and the next best while at safety I'm not sure you can make that claim.

Why are we staring that scenario in the face? We've got the 18th pick in the 1st round, are we really suggesting that by 18, every other draftable prospect will be gone and we'll HAVE to go TE? That's crazy.
 

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TheCount;5053365 said:
Why are we staring that scenario in the face? We've got the 18th pick in the 1st round, are we really suggesting that by 18, every other draftable prospect will be gone and we'll HAVE to go TE? That's crazy.

Nope, just that Eifert may represent the beat value at 18.
 

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The Cowboys don't use a chalkboard (or dry erase board) for the draftboard and the draftboard isn't going to be visible to theticket idiots. What was likely happening is the scouts were discussing players and circled one when he was talking about that particular player.
 

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egn22;5053275 said:
TE with the 18th pick would be beyond stupid.

Anything besides OL and DL would be stupid.


But if you're getting a Gronkowski type of talent with Eifert than you should consider it.

I would definetely add a Gronkowski type player with the 18th pick.
 

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Pessimist_cowboy;5053165 said:
That's what the guys on the ticket keep saying . That the cowboys are in love with this guy and would consider him @ 18 if he is there . This after one of them saw their chalk board had s 5 guys circeled (effiert,vaccaro,lacy,reid,carridine) Their other pet cat is apparently Tank Carridine .

With all the changes on defense and all the new position coaches that are so high profile..I see us going defense the first 3 pics to rebuild the 4-3. Same thing happened Parcells first season or two. Defense and the change to the 3-4 dictated several drafts to rebuild.

No TEs. Nope. Even OL is questionable compared to the DL IMO.

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TheRomoSexual;5053202 said:
It most certainly would help this team. Our two TE set would become our base set (we've had the most success out of this formation), and Eifert can be split out wide with Austin in the slot. I wouldn't be necessarily be a fan of him at 18, but to say he wouldn't "help this team" is complete and utter nonsense.


That's because Garrett only runs formations from this and the shotgun. It's not so much our best formation, but one of our only ones.
 

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I am all for BPA and there is a very good chance he will the the BPA when we pick. Cooper and Warmack will both be gone. Vacarro isn't a playmaker, a player just as good could be had in the 2nd or third.

If Eiffert is there @18 and he is BPA on our board, you take him and you kiss all your red zone issues goodbye.
 

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RS12;5053292 said:
Said this before but if Witten goes down, this offense comes to a grinding halt. Everybody else becomes alot easier to defend.

Same with Dez. Our deep threat is gone. The guy who wins matchups with the cb's. And same goes with Romo if he goes down. Our offense will come to a grinding halt. It is what it is.
 

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Beast_from_East;5053285 said:
The only way this makes sense is if we got to a 2-TE set as our base offense.

Basically copy the Pat's offense, that is the only thing that makes sense here. Either that or they think Witten is going to retire after this season.

It wouldn't made sense any way you slice it.

The Patriots have been using 2 TE sets so much because they didn't have WRs behind Welker.

Dallas isn't in that position. It's not like Deion Branch is the #2 in Dallas.

A TE in the 1st round, or 2nd round, or 3rd round and I'll even say 4th round would be stupid. They have a HoF player at that position. Also, they have Hanna who they just drafted. Gonna just write him off already? He didn't look too bad, develop the guy.
 

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texbumthelife;5053403 said:
I am all for BPA and there is a very good chance he will the the BPA when we pick. Cooper and Warmack will both be gone. Vacarro isn't a playmaker, a player just as good could be had in the 2nd or third.

If Eiffert is there @18 and he is BPA on our board, you take him and you kiss all your red zone issues goodbye.

Heard this before regarding a TE they drafted to be the #2 TE.
 

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TheCount;5053365 said:
Why are we staring that scenario in the face? We've got the 18th pick in the 1st round, are we really suggesting that by 18, every other draftable prospect will be gone and we'll HAVE to go TE? That's crazy.

Yeah, just insane if you ask me.
 

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TheCount;5053365 said:
Why are we staring that scenario in the face? We've got the 18th pick in the 1st round, are we really suggesting that by 18, every other draftable prospect will be gone and we'll HAVE to go TE? That's crazy.

I think the point is that the Cowboys would view him as the best value at 18 in the event that Cooper, Richardson, etc.. are gone. That is the scenario that is staring them in the face, at which point I think Eifert makes a ton of sense. I would argue Eifert would have more effect on the running game and passing game than any player potentially available at 18 sans Cooper. Now the question is he is probably the best pick from an offensive standpoint, but would he be more valuable than a similarly slotted pick on defense, i.e. Vaccaro, Sylvester Williams, Datone Jones, etc... That is not so clear.
 

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Hoofbite;5053409 said:
It wouldn't made sense any way you slice it.

The Patriots have been using 2 TE sets so much because they didn't have WRs behind Welker.

Dallas isn't in that position. It's not like Deion Branch is the #2 in Dallas.

A TE in the 1st round, or 2nd round, or 3rd round and I'll even say 4th round would be stupid. They have a HoF player at that position. Also, they have Hanna who they just drafted. Gonna just write him off already? He didn't look too bad, develop the guy.

Who cares why they use it? They have been very successful with he formation, as we're we when we had a legit secon TE. Further, Eifert is more than a TE -- you can split him out wide or in the slot and create mismatch nightmares. People are being way too narrow minded about this draft.
 

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Hoofbite;5053411 said:
Heard this before regarding a TE they drafted to be the #2 TE.

Adding the best TE in football wouldn't fix our red zone issues. That has to do with a complete lack of talent along the OL. You aren't fixing it with a pass catcher. You still won't be able to run the ball. You still won't be able to protect the QB in pass protection as the field shrinks and everybody gets more nosey at the line of scrimmage.
 

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Personally, it would be Tony Dorsett's "99 1/2" yd TD run against the Vikes. I was a kid and I loved the Boys. I had been ridiculed by friends for my love for the Cowboys. Even as they were going through rough spots I continued to stay loyal. But, watching them lose against the Vikes was all I could take. I remember cursing at the TV, and yelling that I'll never support this *** team again. I was near tears. Then, seconds later, Tony rips off the big run. It was the lifeline I needed to remain a Cowboy fan. I viewed it as a sign, and I've never allowed my faith/support to waiver since that night.
 

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I would go BPA and take Eifert if we have a plan (a free agent or two) for the OLine
 

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Pessimist_cowboy;5053165 said:
That's what the guys on the ticket keep saying . That the cowboys are in love with this guy and would consider him @ 18 if he is there . This after one of them saw their chalk board had s 5 guys circeled (effiert,vaccaro,lacy,reid,carridine) Their other pet cat is apparently Tank Carridine .

lol ha. Teams probably haven't used chalk boards for the draft in while. Maybe he meant dry erase board or saw exec computer screen. I love week before the draft. More to come I am sure.
 
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