Cowboys fans: Appreciate your QB, appreciate your team, enjoy these Cowboys

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It's a fine line between supporting Dak and criticizing Dak.

The fact is he's been good enough to win a pretty good number of games, even, though limited, playoff games.

While certainly I would prefer he's a multiple Super Bowl champion quarterback, a la Roger and Troy, I suspect that if he doesn't win at least one, I'll end up feeling about Dak like I do about Meredith - an appreciation for what he has done, especially considering he was a 4th round pick, the vast majority of which never do as well as Dak has done. Just that he wouldn't reach the amount of respect and appreciation that I have for Roger and Troy.

We just expect too much of our quarterback most of the time. 22 players on the field every play, to think one player can coordinate and overcome 21 other players, as well as opposing coaches and the refs is expecting too much, imho. Though a few have done it. Extremely hard to find those players, and even then, there's luck, etc. involved in winning Super Bowls.

I just can't base my Cowboys happiness on only winning Super Bowls., I like to be happy more often than that....
 

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Dak Haters will NEVER EVER ACCEPT Prescott even if he's QB1 on a Cowboy Superbowl Team....
Nope, not even true. I was on Dak's side in 2016, and even supported him staying as QB1 when Romo returned from injury. The problems started when it became clear he was basically Romo version 2.0 - he had the ability to put up flashy stats and beat up on the peons of the league during the regular season, but when the heat turned up against better competition in the post season he wilted away. By then it was too late to return to Romo, he had given up and retired.

The turning point for me was the ridiculous contract he was given without having earned it.

No one will hate Dak if he can somehow pull it together and take this team further than the divisional round, maybe even to a super bowl. The thing is, detractors like myself don't think he has the talent or ability to get that far. He's also shown that he's just a bunch of hot air. He constantly makes promises then never backs them up. Sometimes you wonder if he even intends to 'get better'.

In a nutshell, what the Dakstans call hate is basically nothing more than a total lack of trust that Dak can rise when the team needs him to. He had that chance just this past weekend yet once again fell flat on his face.

This is a bit of a rant to say that no one will hate Dak if he manages to make it to a super bowl, we just don't expect that he will ever be able to do it. He lacks the talent, determination, and passion. He doesn't want it bad enough like Aikman, Emmitt, Irvin, Charles Haley, Staubach, Brady, Mahomes, etc.
 
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Nope, not even true. I was on Dak's side in 2016, and even supported him staying as QB1 when Romo returned from injury. The problems started when it became clear he was basically Romo version 2.0 - he had the ability to put up flashy stats and beat up on the peons of the league during the regular season, but when the heat turned up against better competition in the post season he wilted away. By then it was too late to return to Romo, he had given up and retired.

The turning point for me was the ridiculous contract he was given without having earned it.

No one will hate Dak if he can somehow pull it together and take this team further the divisional round, maybe even to a super bowl. The thing is, detractors like myself don't think he has the talent or ability to get that far. He's also shown that he's just a bunch of hot air. He constantly makes promises then never backs them up.

In a nutshell, what the Dakstans call hate is basically nothing more than a total lack of trust that Dak can rise when the team needs him to. He had that chance just this past weekend yet once again fell flat on his face.

This is a bit of a rant to say that no one will hate Dak if he manages to make it to a super bowl, we just don't expect that he will ever be able to do it. He lacks the talent, determination, and passion.
The Dak Crusaders have already avowed that even a super bowl will not grant Dak relief from hate. It's part of the gaslighting plan they need to cling to to keep their hateful crusade viable.
 

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I appreciate your service but it doesn't mean I'm forced to appreciate you commandeering the forum.
Nobody is forcing or asking you to do anything. This is a forum for fans. Try acting like one.

--What is the meaning of a sports fan?

an enthusiastic devotee of sports or a team.

Definitions of a sports fan: an enthusiastic devotee of sports or a team. synonyms: fan, rooter. types: aficionado.
 

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Huh? Where did this corny crap come from? Who said anything about Romo? And for the record I don’t hate Dak but I don’t slobber over him either. It’s just weird to see a grown man go to the lengths that you do to defend him.
Nobody is slobbering over Dak. Get your intentionally demented head out of the gutter. Be respectful unless you truly want to get treated with such disrespect in return. Keep acting like a sexually perversive jerk, and you're going to get exactly what you're asking for.
 

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In my opinion, I doubt complete videos, as seen in the OP, will ever have any desired effect on members critical of Dak Prescott--just as videos critical of him bounce off members who are not as critical. I believe that is mostly true because talking sports heads like Colin Cowherd and content providers like Dak Attacks (lol) simply regurgitate the same talking points posted by members here.

There might be some degree of persuasion attained if videos highlighting only what Prescott's current peers have to say about him were posted. Videos minus the Cowherds and former players offering commentary related to supporting their post-NFL careers. Perhaps videos containing opinions from Prescott's opponents like what was seen and heard during the first 80 seconds of the OP video.

The old saying of 'game recognizing game' may attract more respect, even at a tiny degree, than listening or reading the same-old same-old from folks outside the league. Personally, I thought the video's remaining nearly thirteen minutes was not unlike a sermon, composed of much of what is posted on Fan Zone each week. Some members will automatically find that as tedious in nature, which does not aid any goal seeking a compromise of opinion.

Just my two cents.
 

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I’m not sure that’s what he’s trying to do at all. He’s just letting everybody know his personal opinion. I appreciate Prescott. I don’t care what anybody else thinks. And I don’t try to persuade.
it's exactly what he's trying to do. He's constantly calling people haters and telling to leave the boards or go follow another team. His Dak love is absolutely pathetic and so is this kind of threads. I lost any respect for him a long time ago and this has nothing to do with his opinion about Dak. But if there's any definition for a toxic fan then it's this guy lol. He left the "fanatic" level a long time ago and boarded the delusion train.
 

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I have to admit I've been back and forth on Dak throughout his career. 2016 I foolishly thought him and wentz would the big names in the league. Think it was 2018 some flaws in Dak came to light which he manage to overcome. I just think he is at the tail end of his career now. He is never going to be as good as he was a few years ago. I don't think he is the long term answer that will lead the cowboys to a championship at this stage, especially with the up coming salary cap woes he will create.

As for appreciating the cowboys: Game day I go into each game optimistic, even if during the week I think we will lose if the team is better than us. You hope the cowboys will prove you wrong and you go into watching the game assuming that they will. When the game is over, it is okay to be critical about what you believe are flaws with the team. Heck if fans wouldn't get mad, teams wouldn't have incentive to try to fix those flaws, if they get an automatic cash flow.
TBH, I think Dak just played his best consecutive 3 games so far, and I credit that to his willingness to run when necessary. Not only does it make it harder to defend against him, but I think he throws better on the run. Whether that's a mental thing, in which he doesn't overthink his throws, or because he's buying time for the receivers to get more open, I'm not sure; maybe it's both. Either way, the version I've seen the last 3 weeks is a Dak I could see helping the team get to a SB. Has he been perfect? No, but a QB shouldn't need to be perfect, if the rest of the team does its job too.
 

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There’s all types of fans. Half full and half empty. Everyone has a choice how they conduct themselves.

I’ve attended over 300 Cowboy games at home, on the road including playoff games and Super Bowl. There are some Cowboy fans that I wouldn't want to sit by . But as long as they conduct themselves in a lawful manner it’s their right to express themselves however they choose. The same goes for this forum.

It’s understandable why there would be Apathy setting in to Cowboy fans this era. We have had our longest championship drought in our franchises history. And we have a dysfunctional ownership which meddles like no other. Plenty of reasons to be down and out not to mention our frustration and lack of playoff success .

But we should always keep in mind for those fans , especially the younger fans , who have never witnessed the glory eras many of us grew up with . They are entitled to have hope and root their team on with all the enthusiasm that their youth and energy can expend.

This is not the same championship caliber franchise most of the last couple generations grew to embrace . Only in name. And while stars of past eras like Staubach and the Triplet’s drew fans in so are these stars of this era , even without the success prior ones had.

This is the nature of fandom . It fits all sizes. So don’t be so judgmental if their size doesn’t fit your size .There should be room for all fans especially on a fan forum setting.

Just remember when joining a discussion who you’re interacting with. Is this the cheerleader type or analyst critique type of fan.

I’d like to believe we are all Cowboy homers or Diehard as I describe myself. And with that depending on our background and history all bring our own agendas and insight .
 

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Nobody is slobbering over Dak. Get your intentionally demented head out of the gutter. Be respectful unless you truly want to get treated with such disrespect in return. Keep acting like a sexually perversive jerk, and you're going to get exactly what you're asking for.
Did you fall and hit your head? No one said anything sexual. You jump from one extreme to another.
 

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There are three types of fans who use internet sports forums:
  • Those who go there to support the team.
  • Those who go there to discuss the team.
  • Those who go there to vent about the team.
All three groups are true fans. They wouldn't be in places like this if they weren't. That said, they frequently do not get along. The guys who use places like this to just rant and let off steam after a loss are just going to piss the "support" guys off and vice versa. The people looking to pick up information and discuss what is going on are going to piss off the "support" guys when its something negative and "vent" guys when its something positive.

Overall, I would agree with the OP that if supporting a team is making you angry far more than it makes you happy, you should probably stop. That said, OTOH, if you wrap your identity into a professional sports player or franchise that really doesn't care about you too deeply, you should probably get outside and do something else.
 

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In my opinion, I doubt complete videos, as seen in the OP, will ever have any desired effect on members critical of Dak Prescott--just as videos critical of him bounce off members who are not as critical. I believe that is mostly true because talking sports heads like Colin Cowherd and content providers like Dak Attacks (lol) simply regurgitate the same talking points posted by members here.

There might be some degree of persuasion attained if videos highlighting only what Prescott's current peers have to say about him were posted. Videos minus the Cowherds and former players offering commentary related to supporting their post-NFL careers. Perhaps videos containing opinions from Prescott's opponents like what was seen and heard during the first 80 seconds of the OP video.

The old saying of 'game recognizing game' may attract more respect, even at a tiny degree, than listening or reading the same-old same-old from folks outside the league. Personally, I thought the video's remaining nearly thirteen minutes was not unlike a sermon, composed of much of what is posted on Fan Zone each week. Some members will automatically find that as tedious in nature, which does not aid any goal seeking a compromise of opinion.

Just my two cents.
The problem is, some people seem like they actually want to hate certain players, and in Dak's case, I think that even if Rodgers, Hurts, Allen, Herbert, etc. publicly stated that Dak is better than them (just an example, not my opinion), those types would say something to the effect of, "He's only saying that so Jerry will give Dak a huge contract, and the Cowboys will be stuck with him for 5 more years!"
 
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